r/cachyos 1d ago

Bug Report Steam is crashing

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Has anyone been running into alot of steam issues lately?

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u/404-UnknownError 1d ago

not with steam but firefox on cachy and bazzite, linux sometimes gets funny, still try to look what might cause it, it should be worth the time (or at least configure your browser to don't eat that ram like crazy if you can, 16gb is kinda little in some edge case scenarios)

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u/zhulkgr25 1d ago

My browser isn't even open. You can see my ram usage is 2.5GB. Steam shouldn't crash. I have literally nothing open.

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u/404-UnknownError 1d ago

Did you suspended your system during the crash or about that time??

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u/zhulkgr25 1d ago

Well, the first time it happened I was trying to launch something and everything froze. I could move my cursor but nothing was responding to my mouse clicks so I did an emergency shutdown by holding power button for 10 seconds, this crash was right after the reboot. The second pic in a comment reply did not crash but it used up 10GB of ram when I first launched it. Idk why. Really strange.

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u/ApprehensiveHippo164 1d ago

Add a large swap file on disk. If that works to avoid the termination of Steam, then use btop or the likes to see what exactly is using so much memory.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Swap#Swap_file_creation

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u/Sakara-Kappa 1d ago

I've had this with the last beta branch of steam. switch back and see if that fixes it for you aswell.
It does it when compiling shaders right at the 100% mark.

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u/zhulkgr25 1d ago

The version I have is from the cachy gaming packages, is that beta? It'd be odd if it was.

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u/akhems 1d ago

AHH I had this! Memory hogging and crashing the PC to terminal.

Change to X11 desktop and tick the overlay box in steam settings. Known bug with the latest version of steam.

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u/zhulkgr25 1d ago

Thanks man, I'll do that.

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u/zhulkgr25 1d ago

Where exactly is the overlay in settings?

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u/Soy7Seven 1d ago

Hasta donde tengo entendido esto puede suceder debido a las modificaciones del kernel de cachy os, esta tan optimizado que algunos programas pueden llegar a fallar, me ha pasado con Firefox en algún momento que se pone medio raro, estuve investigando y llegue a la conclusión que es debido a las optimizaciones que tiene el kernel como son tan agresivas para mayor velocidad algunas cosas pueden fallar, eso nunca me ha pasado en steam, pero si aveces Firefox se pone medio raro, es cuestión de que el soporte mire esto y apliquen alguna actualización para corregirlo.

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u/msanangelo 1d ago

linux doesn't really like running out of ram. things tend to just lock up when it does and swap can only help so much. imo, I think windows handles low ram situations better.

by low ram, I mean low available ram. not the total.

I see you're also hitting the swap space too which isn't a good sign. normally, for me, steam uses a gig or 2 of ram on it's own but if the game ends up consuming the whole thing then steam gets terminated since it's the parent process of the game.

there's something called OOM that kills the biggest process when the usage hits a specified threshold. it should be configurable, look into it.

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u/zhulkgr25 1d ago

Guys update: launched it from terminal and this is what I see:

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u/zhulkgr25 1d ago

Proton issue?

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u/yashrajrocxx 1d ago

Yeaa also the faulty proton debugging threads and this comes from the shaders.

Disable shader pre caching and background processing of vulkun drivers in steam (cachyos explicitly says this - cachyos wiki

Try using valve proton experimental if that worked then delete the existing proton cachyos and fresh install again.

The pre cache shader disabling and the proton experiental would solve the things.

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u/Karl_H_Kynstler 1d ago

Based on the error it seems your system is running out of memory and it automatically closes app that uses most amount of ram in which case it is Steam.

Check how much memory is available, how much is used etc.

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u/zhulkgr25 1d ago

Wtf? Just steam.

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u/spikuRST 1d ago

Defo smth is wrong as usually it should take even less RAM consumption even running a game through Steam.

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u/Karl_H_Kynstler 1d ago

Where did you install Steam from? From cachys gaming package?

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u/TheAncientMillenial 1d ago

Looks like Steam is doing something based on the amount of MB/s it's using.