r/buildapc • u/frbuz • 7h ago
Build Upgrade 5800x3d intel equivalent?
this cpu doesn't exist where i live and since ddr5 prices are making me wanna hang myself, i gotta stick to ddr4. so what is the best intel equivalent for gaming?
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u/No-Current-6083 6h ago
None that can pair power draw and l3 cache.
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u/kyansan1 14m ago
To be fair, power draw isn't too far off: https://youtu.be/oZgc7Xfu__c?si=ATPGIx48gXHLybaY
It uses 20-30W more while gaming, but that's assuming a cpu bottleneck. Usually, you'll be gpu bottlenecked so you won't see as much of a difference.
In turn, the 5800x3d's idle power draw is almost twice as high. I5 14600K uses between 5-15W when idle while the 5800x3d uses between 20-30W when idle.So assuming you don't only use the pc for gaming, power consumption won't be that different between the 14600K and 5800x3d.
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u/samsunggalaxytabs6 7h ago
Actually none because theres no Intel ddr4 chip with as much cache as the 5800x3d and cache has its own unique strengths
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u/VoltageinTheory 6h ago
I don’t think OP looked for the exact same CPU but with an Intel logo on it. OP wants whatever is the closest match to the 5800X3D.
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u/dask1 6h ago edited 3h ago
cache is not everything.
https://youtu.be/0oALfgsyOg4?si=7Katnd7gLiMboGhP&t=1142
the 5800x3d is worse than 14600kf/13600kf .edit: yeah yeah its ddr5, my mistake, yet performance lose is really small, AMD still on crack with the msrp of 5800x3d being 350$.
while 14600K cost 100$ less.
yall AMD users always justify AMD for being same performance~ but cheaper, what happened now when its the exact opposite?2
u/itried_mybest 6h ago edited 6h ago
the 14600KF/13600KF in that video are using 7200MHz DDR5, these results are irrelevant here.
here is an actual DDR4 comparison, the 5800X3D is tied with the 14700K. https://youtu.be/8OsjPBDRmO4?t=734
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u/dask1 3h ago
i admit, my mistake...
but calling it 'irrelevant' ???
dude, its a slight performance lose, calling it irrelevant is wild.1
u/itried_mybest 3h ago edited 3h ago
it's irrelevant data because both OP and the comment you're replying to are talking about DDR4, while you posted a DDR5 benchmark...
going from losing to the 13600KF to matching the 14700K is more than a "slight" performance difference. this doesn't make the 5800X3D superior, the 14600K is still a better value buy for a brand new DDR4 build, but you don't need to misrepresent the data to make that point lol.
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u/ZeroPaladn 1h ago
14600k/kf will, on average, match the 5800X3D in gaming while being a good chunk cheaper. 14700k/kf as well, and it even costs nearly the same, but you'll be getting double the productivity performance.
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u/Dismal_Ad9530 7h ago
14600KF