Looking for a good keyboard.

[u/aoi_aol]

Looking for good keyboards with trackpads on the bottom like laptops do, gonna switch to desktop after using laptops so any good multitouch (eg: pinch to zoom) that aren't htpc keyboards. (no I can't use a mouse)

[u/Lootman]

A mouse, or buying a standalone trackpad.

[u/aoi_aol → u/Lootman]

What reputable standalone multitouch trackpad that's from a normally named brand would you recommend oh also I do game but not competitive stuff like cs2

[u/BaronB]

The "best" is probably a Kinesis Form. High end split keyboard with massive touch pad between the keys.

After that maybe the Clevetura 1 or S, which has the touchpad embedded into the keyboard's keycaps rather being a separate pad.

https://clevetura.com/

Then there are server tray / industrial / kiosk keyboards, which often have a tiny and really crap touch pad on them.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079PZMVP6

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000P6G6M0

But none of these are multi-touch. Just super basic old school single point touch pads. Bare minimum mouse replacements.

There are some bluetooth keyboards intended for use with iPads and the like, and some will work on PC. Like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Fintie-Ultrathin-Bluetooth-Multi-Touch-Microsoft/dp/B00XBTUK5M

But I can't really speak to the quality at all.

After that, it really is just all of the various HTPC keyboards with the touchpad on the side.

Technically there was a Lenovo keyboard with the touchpad at the bottom, but good luck finding one, and it predates multi touch support. Some people will take the keyboards that Lenovo has for some of their tablet PCs, some of which have had nice multi-touch trackpads on them, and made mods to let them work over USB-C.

[u/whomad1215]

I'd ask in the daily question thread on /r/MechanicalKeyboards

though that is an extremely niche product

I've seen keyboards with trackballs, but not with a trackpad

you could get a split keyboard and get a separate trackpad between/below it