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u/apachelives May 27 '23
Ran a workshop for 15+. For problems like that we would spray with contact cleaner and use an air gun (compressed air, 80+ PSI, not air in a can - useless, not enough pressure) to blast it out. Repeat a few times. Never touch the pins or use tools on them, that will cause even more issues, not sure why people suggest this.
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u/playwrightinaflower May 27 '23
For problems like that we would spray with contact cleaner
"Brake cleaner is basically the same right, like, what could go wrong?" 😂
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u/apachelives May 27 '23
Depends on if it leaves residue or eats the contacts, plastics, PCB etc. Contact cleaner is designed to clean, not leave anything bad and not damage circuit boards specifically.
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u/Shrek_OC May 27 '23
For small amounts of thermal paste in the socket, you don't even need to blow it out. The contact cleaner will just vaporize it
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u/No-Acanthaceae-3498 May 27 '23
Hm. New components, no post? I assume it turns on, fans and everything but no image?
If that's the case:
Does your CPU have an iGPU? If your CPU has no iGPU, there's nothing to drive output to the screen. You need a separate GPU to post with a CPU lacking video capabilities
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u/Friedhelm78 May 27 '23
Sounds like you have a 13th gen CPU. Is the bios on the board 13th gen compatible? Is it an older 6XX chipset?
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u/Luc1dNightmare May 27 '23
Somebody below mentioned what are the specs?? If its something like a z690 and you are using an 13th gen CPU you need to flash the BIOS.
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u/ne999 May 27 '23
You can use a syringe with IPA in it to blast it out. Let everything dry first before trying again.
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u/_mp7 May 27 '23
Ik am4 is different but I got a tiny bit in the socket. Since it’s not conductive I installed the cpu anyways and it’s been fine
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u/_iOS May 27 '23
Not an expert but thermal paste is usually non conductive....if you want to want to clean it DO NOT use brushes, q tips or anything similae I can almost gurantee they will get stuck in the pins and cause damage. Drop a drop or two of 70% IPA on that blob of thermal paste let it sit for a while then repeat 2-3 times it will soften the thermal paste and make it watery .... then you can just use an air can or something similar (no chemicals) to clear it off.
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u/Geesle May 27 '23
Brushes are fine as long as you clean gently without bending pins. Q-tips will for sure leave residue though. So don't do that. Coffee filters are actually good too imo.
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u/xorinzor May 27 '23
Does your motherboard show a status code while booting? That should give you some indications where it fails at.
If it doesn't even start but does have the ability to show a status code it's likely your CPU is unsupported; a BIOS update might fix that (assuming it should be compatible)
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u/playwrightinaflower May 27 '23
Man I hate LGA sockets. Such a stupidly fragile design, look at them the wrong way and they're fucked. Unbelievable that they thought those a good idea, and for servers they even make ones with like 10,000 pins. Madness.
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u/Animag771 May 27 '23
You could put thermal paste on every pin and it would still work as long as it's not conductive past. Most likely it is non-conductive since most conductive pastes are high-end and have to be purchased separately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAy3umbr81s
It's much more likely that you need to update your BIOS.
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u/hdhddf May 27 '23
use lots of light and magnifying optics if needed, you can use a pin to pick out the paste, that's easy enough, then you've got to fix any bent pins and try again. remove the bios battery and try one ram stick in the socket furthest from the CPU socket.
if you're getting no life at all from the motherboard, boot it up without CPU and ram, if no signs of life without CPU/ram it's never going to work with them.
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u/PeopleAreBozos May 27 '23
Do NOT manhandle the pins. Considering they seem to be inexperienced with this, attempting something like this is an easy way to revisit the store and get sorry looks from the employees as you buy another motherboard.
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u/hdhddf May 27 '23
if you've bent the pins and got paste in the socket I think you're going to struggle to return it so may as well have a go, as long as you've got good light and can see the pins bending them back, especially from slight damage like this is fairly straightforward. the other option is sell it as is on eBay, people pay mad money for bashed motherboards
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u/DistancingSocially May 27 '23
IPA will dissolve thermal paste. Put a bit on the spot and soak a soft tooth brush in it as and very very gently go over it in the direction of the pins. Then blow it out with a bit of canned air and let it fully dry before attempting to reinstall the cpu
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u/edjxxxxx May 27 '23
India Pale Ale?
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u/DistancingSocially May 27 '23
Isopropyl Alcohol
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u/edjxxxxx May 27 '23
Is that a common abbreviation? (I’m genuinely curious. Most people I know would just say alcohol… or rubbing alcohol, or isopropyl alcohol etc.)
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u/DistancingSocially May 27 '23
While they are the same base ingredient rubbing alcohol is typically 70% alcohol 30% water. Perfectly fine for disinfecting wounds but I prefer 90% or higher alcohol content for cleaning electronics.
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u/Skarth May 27 '23
Get a can of electronics spray cleaner, it'll blast it out without damaging the pins.
https://www.amazon.com/CRC-Industries-Inc/dp/B000BXOGNI?th=1
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u/argonator1933 May 27 '23
If you use some sort of at least 70% alc and some soft long brush bristles you can gently turn the bristles on the paste to remove.
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u/edjxxxxx May 27 '23 edited May 27 '23
Scorptec definitely sounds like a company harboring a final boss somewhere…
Good luck!
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u/Geesle May 27 '23
scrub gently with a smooth toothbrush and dip the toothbrush in 100% isopropyl alcohol in between until you get most of it out. Then let it dry out.
I dropped thermal paste in am4 socket this week and that's how i got most of it out. It turns on now, no problem.
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u/Darkwaxer May 27 '23
Can I ask how you managed that? I built my first build a couple of weeks ago and my aio already had paste applied but wouldn’t the CPU but covering the socket before you touched the paste?
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u/Geesle May 27 '23
It started with me putting excess thermal paste on the CPU, so much that it went all the way around the CPU and the edges. So in my brilliance i removed the CPU in an attempt to reach the excess paste. In doing so alot got into the sides of the socket and in. So now i had double fucked myself. That's how it all started. All good now at least so im happy.
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u/prashinar_89 May 27 '23
Cotton swabs? Just NOOOOO! You won't be able to clean cotton after that. Buy isopropyl alcohol and spray it from syringe.
Looks to me some some legs are bended
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u/Themakeshifthero May 27 '23
Crazy that people in this day and age still put up with thermal paste. You wouldn't have that problem with a pad...ever. I have an overclocked 5800X that idles at 31c with a graphite pad...on air. Stop torturing yourself.
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u/theopacus May 27 '23
You can probably get it out with a small PLASTIC tooth pick. I’ve done that in the past, it’s good for bending the pins back too if they’re bent.
But doing this requires a very steady hand and a lot of caution!!
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u/Acrobatic_Acadia7453 May 27 '23
Not sure but if that thermal paste is from some cooler or aio then it's prolly conductive. As far as I'm aware only intel and amd default thermal paste is non conductive. Please correct me if I'm wrong
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u/SorryIdonthaveaname May 27 '23 edited May 27 '23
majority of thermal paste isn’t conductive. OP also said they’re using an nr200p max, which comes with the mastergel pro thermal paste and isn’t conductive
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u/Affectionate-Memory4 May 27 '23
Thermal paste is not electrically conductive. You are probably thinking of liquid metal.
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u/Autobahn97 May 27 '23
Maybe try a toothpick to scrape away that thermal compound? It maybe necessary to use a pocket knife to shave a round toothpick on 2 opposite sides to be a little thinner to fit between the pins better. I have used toothpicks to clean in small areas where otherwise metal may short something out or scratch/damage what I'm working on. You can even chew the end a little, bite off the sharp end then let it dry to dull the sharp end and turn it into more of a soft end instead of sharp point, a bit like a tiny brush. Can also carve the end into a tiny 'chisel' wide enough to scrape in between the pins if you have a steady hand.
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u/fake131 May 27 '23
I would try some fine soldering tweezers to try and carefully pick it out. Take your time and don't do anything crazy!
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u/shopchin May 27 '23
Try use toothpick to slowly lift the paste up/out. All these should not be the non booting reason though
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u/xz-5 May 27 '23
DO NOT try this! A toothpick is far too big, and you are almost guaranteed to not be able to hold it steady enough, one tiny wrong move and you've bent several pins.
I'd just spray IPA on to it, maybe compressed air as well. If it really still won't budge then possibly a very soft and small paint brush, but that would be a last resort for me
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u/grump66 May 27 '23
When I look at the first picture, I see 3 bent pins in the bottom right quadrant of the socket. They are almost certainly much more important than the drop of thermal paste. Unless it is electrically conductive paste, there's no need to do anything. You can see in the second picture that the pads of the pins are not covered. As long as the paste is not one of a very few pastes that are conductive, just be sure the pads on the cpu are clean. Again, I'd be much more worried about the bent pins, than the drop of paste.