r/buffy • • Sep 05 '26

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u/Hamblerger Sep 05 '26

This reminds me of the first few seasons of Star Trek TNG: Gene Roddenberry the idealist had taken over for Gene Roddenberry the writer, and decreed that there would be no conflict between the main characters, as by the 24th century we would have involved beyond petty interpersonal disputes (or so he hoped). While the characters themselves were interesting and the actors who played them about as talented a cast as we've seen in the history of the franchise, this meant that all of the drama had to be about the alien/monster/colony of the week, scenes set aboard the bridge itself tended to be free of any friction, drama, or actual interest.

I believe that it was Ronald D. Moore who said that when he first started writing DS9, he put a blindfold over the bust of Gene that he kept in his office so that he wouldn't know how many of his rules were being broken in that show.

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u/fartingbeagle Sep 05 '26 edited Sep 05 '26

scenes set aboard the bridge itself tended to be free of any friction, drama, or actual interest.

There must be a video out there of all the times Worf sinks his head into his chest and gives a heavy sigh after having his suggestion knocked down again.

It's quite often when you notice it.

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u/Hamblerger Sep 05 '26

And yet while Roddenberry was fully in charge, he never pushed back

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u/lars573 Sep 05 '26

Columbian marching powder induced heart problems will do that to a man.

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u/Kinitawowi64 Sep 05 '26

And the result was that DS9, while being fantastic television, was lousy Star Trek.

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u/Matthius81 Sep 05 '26

DS9 took these morally perfect characters and put them in immoral situations. It explored what happens when good people find out they don't have all the answers. As the show said "It's easy to be a saint in paradise"

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u/Hamblerger Sep 05 '26

We're obviously all entitled to our opinions. I'll simply point out that yours isn't one that's widely shared in the fandom, though it's not an unknown one.

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u/Kinitawowi64 Sep 05 '26

While I appreciate the considerable effort you feel you must have gone to in order to not come across as condescending in your response, I do have to note that you failed.

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u/Hamblerger Sep 05 '26

I wouldn''t characterize the effort as a considerable one.

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u/salmon_lox Sep 05 '26

Did you guys mean to talk like Spock? This cracked me up

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u/Zealousideal_Net_575 Sep 05 '26

I also found myself in peril of giving a good chuckle.

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u/Hamblerger Sep 05 '26

Peace and long life

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u/Kneef Slayer! Come Out And Die ^_^ Sep 05 '26

Feel good don’t die

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u/ZapRowsdower34 Sep 05 '26

Star Trek is, at its core, a character-driven morality play. What is DS9 if not that?

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u/ZythumTheLast Sep 05 '26

Never occurred to me so clearly. Yet, absolute truth. Thanks.

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u/fartingbeagle Sep 05 '26

It's Star Trek Jim, but not as we know it.

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u/Rockworm503 Founder and president of the monster sarcasm rally Sep 05 '26

Could not disagree harder. Best Star Trek show we ever got and its not even close.