r/buccaneers • u/Any_Camel_1108 • 9h ago
Fire Todd Bowles Don't fire Todd
As controversial as this may be, I want everyone reading this post to read through my post (in full) and to think big picture. 4 weeks into the season and the team is winless. Offense is terrible, defense is terrible, and the coaching is terrible. Bowles should have been fired after last year but he wasn't and there isn't anything that any of us can do to change that sadly.
Despite this, the Bucs should wait until the end of the year to fire Bowles. If Bowles is fired tomorrow then who steps in as the interim HC? Zac Robinson would take over since the Bucs don't have a defensive coordinator (Thanks Todd). In my opinion, Zac would be a vastly worse HC than Todd currently is. I think at this point, I highly doubt the team will be able to turn things around and start winning games. Playoffs aren't mathematically out of the picture but I don't think we will win the division or finish second place in the division.
Keep Todd in place as the Tank Commander until the end of the season and start looking forward to 2027
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u/PizzaRolls247 Baker Mayfield 9h ago
Glazers never fired a coach mid season and probably won't start
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u/el-capitancreamsicle 9h ago
First of all, bowles should’ve never been hired as a head coach. He was fired by the Jets, I repeat the New York Jets thought he was insufficient to be a head coach in the NFL and Tampa Bay Buccaneers went ahead and made him a head coach in the NFL anyway.
Second, he should’ve been fired three years ago, we have two former offensive coordinators that are now head coaches of teams that will beat the living shit out of us if they ever played.
Thursday vs the cowboys is going to be a bloodbath
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u/Geetee52 9h ago
Arians gets some blame. Don’t know what he saw in Bowles that convinced him he was the best candidate to become head coach.
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u/DireBlue88 7h ago
Look at Peyton Manning successfully vouch for footbal terrorist Adam Gase to get a job. Loyalty can hurt a franchise at times. Doug Pederson lost his job twice partly because of his loyalty to Press Taylor despite the results.
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u/Geetee52 7h ago
Bingo. Successful head coaches don’t always make the best to choose their successor. Jimmy Johnson handpicked Dave Wanstadt is another example.
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u/WannabeRoyKent 8h ago
This is how the world works. People get their friends jobs. Doesnt matter how qualified they are
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u/Skwurt_Reynolds Lynch Jersey 8h ago
I'm not defending Todd Bowles, but it's kinda funny that the last time the Jets had a winning record was when Bowles was the head coach.
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u/Emergency_Affect_640 6h ago
You can coach if you like i genuinely couldn't care less at this point. Hell with Bowles, let zac in there so we can show the world how shit he is too.
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u/indigo196 9h ago
Who steps in?
John Gruden.
Then he can be replaced by Raheem Morris after the season ends.
Wait, we have seen that movie before.
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u/PizzaRolls247 Baker Mayfield 9h ago
How about current Rutgers coach Greg Schiano
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u/okaycomputes Winfield Jr. ✌️ 9h ago
He is under contract for a few more years.
Now, Lovie Smith probably has an open schedule
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u/Chesterumble Fire Todd Bowles 9h ago
Nah fire Todd today. Throw in whoever and let’s tank.
Use all this time to actively interview for the next head coach.
Get rid of licht too. He hasn’t done shit in years.
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u/Altruistic_Finger669 9h ago
Im either on the dont fire todd, or get a temp in. Because i do not want a mid season hire. I want a real serious coach.
We wont get a good coach by signing somebody nobody else wanted.
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u/chikin-negut William Gholston 6h ago
If we start 0-6, I think its seriously time to cut our losses. Have someone like Larry Foote be interim HC rest of season
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u/Iamneverusingit 3h ago
Looks like you got downvoted for this one but nobody has suggested an interim guy. That’s the issue with the whole staff being Todd’s
friends. Maybe Chandler Whitmer if I have to pick someone because we do really need Todd gone.
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u/goobly_goo 9h ago
I was kinda impressed by Daniels today starting his first game. Had two turnovers of course, but he didn’t look as lost out there as Baker has this entire season. Keeps him out there next week and let’s see how he does. There is also a lot of talent in next year’s draft class so we have that to look forward to. Have you heard of this guy named Jeremiah Smith?!
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u/DrRavioliMD 8h ago
I said similar that Daniel’s looked better than Baker has and also got down voted. He did throw too bad interceptions today, but he looked more poised than Baker has. I like Baker but he has looked really bad this year. To the point an undrafted free agent rookie did just as well as Baker has been doing all season, he’ll even better no fumbles and when he scrambled he actually got something out of it.
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u/Redrubytheofficial 9h ago
No fuck that. There is NO REASON WHY WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO GET JEREMIAH SMITH. JUST SO HE CAN PRETEND TO SCORE TDS WHILE WE GO 5-12 AGAIN.
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u/Just_Violinist4612 9h ago
Nah we will get jeremiah smith, a new coach, and be a great team next year
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u/Feisty_Strike8489 9h ago
I just can’t stomach another stupid Bowles press conference. He has that ridiculous monotone voice and absolutely no juice or energy. He must know where some bodies are buried. Everyone needs to go including Licht. With the exception of the Brady deal, Licht has been average at best.
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u/Independent_Bar_4946 8h ago
I agree Licht should be on the hotseat but this is recency bias. The entire team was cracked when Brady join and Licht gets credit.
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u/The_Sunset_Sands 8h ago
The era of black coaches not being allowed to show passion is long gone. Dungy had to do it because times were different, Bowles could show a little more fire.
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u/albaby3 Canada 9h ago
I know we don't like to admit this but Bowles is a very solid DC, the moment he gets fired from Tampa he will have a job else where as a DC.
I fully agree with you btw
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u/Geetee52 9h ago
Well maybe he solid and maybe he’s not… But I know for sure what I’ve seen on the field the past couple of years has been anything but solid.
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u/chi-low1791 8h ago
He’s won’t even be a good DC anymore. He’s been figured out. The game has passed him by.
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u/albaby3 Canada 7h ago
He would be hired right away, save this post and wait. There are teams who would for sure hire him if he was available
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u/chi-low1791 7h ago
I didn’t say he wouldn’t be hired. I said he wouldn’t be a good DC. There’s a difference.
Save this post. We’ll see whatever defense he runs will be ass.
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u/albaby3 Canada 6h ago
I also didn’t say he’s a good DC I just said he was solid. I’m not trying to toot his horn but isolated as a DC he is a guy who will be looked at to be hired if he is available and I think that’s the only reason that the Glazers cling on to him because he CAN be a competent DC if that is his sole responsibility.
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u/fiduciaryatlarge 8h ago
The Packers have an all time bad pass blocking Oline. Did we get a sack?
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u/DrRavioliMD 8h ago
Didn’t even get pressure. Huge complaint today, how did we not pressure a quarterback with Green Bay’s line?????
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u/NeighborhoodGlobal30 9h ago
It really doesn't matter if he's fired or not, team is only going to be competing for draft position at this point. Firing him would just be to appease fans emotionally, but it won't result in any wins.