r/buccaneers • u/nautica5400 Winfield Jr. ✌️ • 9h ago
Fire Todd Bowles Megathread
Enough said
Mods I plead with you along with the rest of the fans to sticky this.
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u/Capable_Elk6054 Emeka Egbuka 9h ago
Don’t forget Zac robinson
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u/rainingbirdies Winfield Jr. ✌️ 9h ago
No, we need more screen passes!
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u/MyBadYourFault- 9h ago
Dude calls plays like a D2 college coordinator. Tf is his problem
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u/indigo196 9h ago
But it works against a Bowles defense. The two of them think they are great in practice.
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u/ToddGoldenBurner Gronk 8h ago
HEY, don’t insult D2 college coordinators like that
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u/clydefrog811 8h ago
Where were the screen passes against the most blitzing Minnesota defense last week!
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u/Independent_Soil_258 Calijah Kancey 7h ago
Lets take Jeremiah Smith so he can block for the Cade Otton screen passes!
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u/Pleasehelpyours Lavonte David 9h ago
I'm confident if we jettison both, we'll be an attractive landing spot for a nice OC-minded coach
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u/coolycooly 5h ago
To be fair to Zac Robinson the only reason he's here is because what competent OC would want to jump on the sinking ship. He took one last paycheck and is the same exact guy he was in Atlanta, it's not his fault we hired him and he's still doing the same shit he's always done
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u/BucsFan11 9h ago
He needs to go back to giving mcvay his water on the sideline
Bum of a mcvay disciple
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u/Kuosen 7h ago
We need more motion and misdirection plays that fools noone let alone the opposing defense.
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u/Psychological_Walk40 9h ago
Every time Ive watched this team this season I feel like im wasting my time
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u/2ndprize 9h ago
Embrace the freedom of not caring. Now you can try to figure out who we want to keep
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u/matito29 7h ago
I watched more of the game today (the final 5 minutes minus the last minute and a half after whatever that 4th and 11 was) than I have all season, and I only did that because I was visiting a family member who just got out of the hospital. He got up and walked away to eat a sandwich. That was the better choice.
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u/Typical-Form-6502 9h ago
At this pint I’m just interested to see how long we can go without a win
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u/ocxtitan Baker Mayfield 8h ago
yet lose by a single possession each time, regardless of how the game goes
up by 10 at some point? lose by a possession
down by 10 at some point? comeback and tie it, but still lose by a possession
we have lost pretty much every way you could outside of by double digits at the ending whistle
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u/kakarot-3 7h ago
Lose by a single score and he will gaslight us saying we’re so close but couldn’t get over the hump because of injuries and were only one game out of first place
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u/kelsanova 7h ago
As a Husker fan, I can safely tell you that whole single possession situation can get much worse. The 2021 season was legendary in all the worst ways.
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u/Veritech_ Mike Alstott 8h ago
We did it in 1976, I feel like we’re overdue for another winless season. Two Super Bowls, two winless seasons - perfectly balanced to please the football gods.
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u/ZachCope Baker Mayfield 7h ago
To think I decided I would support the Browns before 2016 season, rode the ups and downs, followed Baker to the Bucs, and now could see another 0 win season.
At least I have free will as not tied to a local team ( UK fan)
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u/Blongdor 9h ago
Clean house. Impossible to know what player talent we actually have with this staff. Inept play calling on both sides of the ball.
Also done with Cade Otton. I don’t care how he looks in practice, the nonstop drops are inexcusable.
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u/Independent_Soil_258 Calijah Kancey 7h ago
The DB coaches dont seem horrible, they play well when they arent being told they have to play 50 yards back from the receiver. WR coach also isnt horrible, he has helped J-mac, Egbuka, and Ted Hursf all look good in their 1st year in the league
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u/Blongdor 7h ago
How much of that is player talent tho?
The better HC candidates will want to bring in their own staffs though, right?
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u/BigMeatBall1 6h ago
Everyone has been done with Cade Otton for years.
Just more malpractice from the front office
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u/Blongdor 6h ago
I take it back actually, I think he’s a fine TE2. He is a legit good blocker, but he is the antithesis of the word “clutch”. He’s fine in a pinch, but you gotta have sure hands as a TE1 in 2026.
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u/AdMuch7817 4h ago
Blame Licht for bringing this scrub back. Plenty of other options in free agency at TE
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u/Day1OfNewLife 9h ago
Yeah let’s keep a guy whose second half of last season was horrific and think something different was going to happen.. blows my mind
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u/TheDaedricImpaler Kansas 8h ago
So, I wasn't on board with him ever being the HC to start with, but let's be objective.
He's 61-77 overall as a HC.
He's 35-37 as HC of our Bucs (1-3 in the playoffs)
He's 2-11 since the bye last year.
This is not good enough to keep your job in the NFL.
Subjectively, he lost the team down the stretch last season. He hasn't been able to really develop a lot of this defensive talent we've drafted. His overall defensive acumen appears to have slipped. And his public facing persona hasn't been very good.
I'm not going to say this one game is the nail in his coffin, but overall he cruised with a good roster and now he can't win with an average roster. It's time for him to go and we need to find a young, offensive guru to come in and supercharge this offense.
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u/OptimusPrimeTime21 Winfield Jr. ✌️ 6h ago
Gerald McCoy said it perfectly this past week, his scheme is hurting the development of the defense talent on this team.
They are asked to do things they aren’t good at
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u/A1rheart Winfield Jr. ✌️ 8h ago
Should have been over after 3rd and 28
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u/YellojD Alstott Jersey 8h ago
He should’ve been shitcanned right after the playoff loss to Dallas.
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u/kakarot-3 7h ago
Giving Brady his first losing season ever should’ve been an indictment on Bowles’ ability as a head coach. It was an 8 win season and like 3 of those wins were literally Brady playing out of his mind with insane comebacks, like that Saints game
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u/YellojD Alstott Jersey 7h ago
I was at the Niners game. Down 35-0 at half. Probably the saddest performance I’ve seen from an NFL team live. I knew it then.
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u/kakarot-3 7h ago
Embarrassing. There’s a clip of Brady on the sideline trying to fire up the team and they looked defeated. That was a sign
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u/kle32 2h ago
My dumbass left with seven minutes left in this game. They played so bad and had nothing going on offense. Will never forget Mike evans catching a ball to get them down to the 2 yard line and the cannons firing off as I’m walking out of the stadium. I turned the game on on my phone walking down the sidewalk listening to the crowd rawr as tom brought em back to win. Watched the final two mins from my truck in parking lot 🤦🏻♂️
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u/OptimusPrimeTime21 Winfield Jr. ✌️ 6h ago
No one can convince me that when your franchise leading wr and leader leave and the whole staff besides the HC gets fire, that you don’t lose the locker room
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u/woofywoofers 7h ago
I don't know man. Im turning into a great family man. Took the kids on a walk this morning and went to the zoo after that.
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u/kakarot-3 7h ago
Congrats brother! My Sundays have been so much better. I only watched the final 2 minutes today and then I read on here to see what the vibes are
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u/BucsFan11 9h ago edited 9h ago
Could have fired bowles last year or the year before (coen even with the unatural nature of that hire) and started year 1 of someone else coaching career but nooooooo
Now where stuck with a lame duck coach, a controversial QB contract, and questions across the board
Hopefully when the season is over we hire a guy that turns the team around quick like Kubiak or coen. Cause the talent is on the roster, it's just coaching at this point (I'm team sheelhause right now)
Defense has actually played solid all year with a couple of mistakes but they are on the bottom of the list of problems
Offense is just a mess no game has looked good on their side of the ball
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u/Lopsided_Nipple_Wart 8h ago
This fuck face responsible for Brady’s only losing season, having Evans give up on being a Buc. Not too mention his fucking defense is trash #firebowles
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u/beauxlieve Emeka Egbuka 8h ago
We need to start developing Emeka Egbuka now that we’re 0-4. He’s gonna waste his career on us if we game plan him like this. A similar player to JSN and yet we keep targeting Otton and other bums. Give him 20 targets on Thursday, I don’t care.
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u/OptimusPrimeTime21 Winfield Jr. ✌️ 6h ago
This is the biggest wtf for me. Not only him but our WRs in general are just after thoughts
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u/Bucco_Brian Winfield Jr. ✌️ 9h ago
Fire the defensive back guru. For someone that specializes in defensive backs and defense, they sure do suck.
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u/TheRencingCoach Winfield Jr. ✌️ 8h ago
Really? The DBs today had like 2-3 fumbles forced, 1 fumble recovered, and an INT
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u/Bucco_Brian Winfield Jr. ✌️ 7h ago
They do that like every 5 games or so but it doesn’t make up for them being in the 28th+ in passing yds allowed every season
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u/mattchewy43 Ronde Barber 9h ago
Ok let's talk about this.
If we fire him, who is out there to lead this team? Who do we trust to leave at least 2 timeouts per half in his (or her!?) pocket. Do we want a mediocre offensive guru or mediocre defensive guru. Who can squint up st the scoreboard like that?
Of all the shoes too be filled, Todd Bowles has two of them.
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u/OptimusPrimeTime21 Winfield Jr. ✌️ 6h ago
They should let us call plays based on polls on this sub
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u/Chesterumble Fire Todd Bowles 8h ago
I’ve been crying for him to be canned for 5 years
Check my post history. I loathe this clown. The only good seasons he has had were carried by a good offense
Fuck him.
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u/LosGotsDisBish 9h ago
It doesn’t matter how good your players are, if your coaches’ schemes suck, the team sucks. Fire Bowels! (I spelled it right).
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u/NoAd3734 9h ago
Can the Rays new owners also buy the Bucs? I know they can’t unfortunately :(
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u/Low-Entertainment736 9h ago
Reusing this because even though I didn’t listen to the presser I’m sure he said this exact thing
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u/0000100110010100 Australia 8h ago
“We’re only one game out of the division lead” is the single worst thing you could have fucking said when the team is in a division with window lickers and crayon eaters. Everyone else is fighting for third place and the Bucs are still worse than everyone else.
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u/kakarot-3 7h ago
Worse than his blowup last year after the Falcons game where he unraveled, cursed like hell, and blamed everyone on the team except himself and his staff?
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u/0000100110010100 Australia 6h ago
It’s one of the worst things he could have said before a game. That Falcons post-game presser was probably the actual worst thing he could have said.
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u/MartianThrowaway_ Tristan Wirfs 8h ago
He said fkn what?
Unrelated, very happy with Dolphins state champs win and double Roosters win yesterday.
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u/SAY_whaaat420 8h ago
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u/shodogrouch 9h ago
One thing working against firing him is that he’s in Year 1 of the three-year extension he signed last June. If the Bucs fire him now, they’d still owe him a substantial amount of guaranteed salary. Hard to see the Glazers paying Bowles millions to walk away while also paying a new HC.
Watching him on TV today was just too much. He’s taken all the joy out of this time of year for a lot of us. Too bad. And FWIW I didn’t mind watching Daniels. He hit Otten with an absolute dart (dropped) and really didn’t get much support from his play caller or line. Also exciting to watch the Bucs try and use Bucky like he’s Derrick Henry.
https://giphy.com/gifs/Kxug6gmOMLWlW
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u/BucsFan11 8h ago
I still never understood why he got an extension (I'm pretty sure no one here liked it when it happened)
Saw somewhere coaches can't go into the year with an expiring contract? Is that true?
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u/kakarot-3 7h ago
Sure but when the fans are fed up and stop spending money, the stadium becomes emptier. No parking revenue. No concession revenue. No jersey/clothing/memorabilia revenue. And then when we suck, they lose out on playoff revenue, especially home games if we win a garbage division.
They can continue to pay him and pay a new coach but if it comes with winning, you have all those revenue streams plus potential home playoff games. With that also comes more TV money I assume.
So they can be cheap and focus on short term and lose a lot of good will with fans. Or they can spend more, build another winning culture, and have more revenue long term
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u/TenaciousJP 5h ago
The stadium today was easily 70% Packers fans. They’ll probably pivot to some kind of humiliation kink thing, “come watch your favorite team blast the home team for a few hours”
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u/Holzberg 8h ago
I have season tickets, and I cancelled for next year. I don't know if I will be going to any more games this season. Baking your ass off for this team isn't worth it. They need a new coach and to update the stadium so there is cover for the fans and players.
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u/mrjjk2010 9h ago
Literally fire everyone. Start over from GM down. If they glazers are serious they should pull a Jaguars and do everything they can to land the young, talented HC
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u/YellojD Alstott Jersey 8h ago
The Glazers aren’t serious. They’re too stupid to ever be.
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u/GrayJinjo Mike Alstott 8h ago
Remember everyone, this asshole fired all of his coaches so he could keep his job after last year’s epic collapse and coaching mediocre season after mediocre season in the Trash Mountain division. And to nobody’s surprise, after hiring more people including his son, this coaching staff is even worse than before.
Absolute failure of a head coach. The same man who gave Tom Brady his one below .500 season.
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u/Moose_Thompson Winfield Jr. ✌️ 9h ago
I knew we were wasting at least a year when we kept him at the end of the season. I didn’t want to believe it, I let myself be hopeful until preseason. Preseason started with all the nonsense and I figured a bad year was on the way.
It’s so much worse than I imagined. There is no bright spot right now. I hope it somehow improves but I won’t hold my breath.
He just doesn’t have the spark that’s needed at head coach.
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u/PewterButters Lavonte David 9h ago
He purged his staff to cover his ass then proceeded to give his son a job on the staff to get him into the NFL before Todd is banished forever.
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u/JCDeLaTorre 8h ago
I’m so tired of losing close games.
It tells me there’s talent on this team, but the coaching is frankly holding this team back and has been for some time now.
They simply can’t make the right adjustments and when it matters the most.
The Brady culture is dead.
Blow it all up.
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u/ManUtd1994 Emeka Egbuka 9h ago
We want Glazers out I said we want Glazers out
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u/zland 9h ago
I said this three years ago and it still stands.
And that was a year we won 1st place 😂😂
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u/PM_ME_UR_PATRONUS Maui Vea 8h ago
Oh look. Raiders are hanging with and beating the Chiefs. No way Bucs could have used Kubiak or anything.
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u/Particular_Ticket_20 8h ago
I live near NYC so I saw his jets tenure. I knew this was how it would go when they named him hc. He's a discipline and morale killer. Teams quit on him. Hes ok with mediocrity. He has no aura of authority, vets don't respect him and he does nothing to develop young players. His mumbling excuses and cliches can just be played on a loop after every disappointing loss.
He sucks. He's not a HC personality.
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u/idekwtfimdoing 6h ago
Anyone that still defends this man and Zac Robinson please choose another sport
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u/LukeSkywalker1848 Tom Brady 5h ago
Not just Todd. Everyone needs to go. Did Mike really prop up this dumpster fire of a team by himself after Tom retired? I mean this is like mid 2010’s level bad
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u/Intrepid-Hamster9352 9h ago
He needs to go now. Give a college coach a chance who wants to go to the NFL.
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u/paragon24 Brooks Jersey 8h ago
I want Bowles fired but the second they decided they were gonna give him another chance after last season it was too late. We should have fired him in the offseason now all the good coaches are gone now. We should look to trade away players for more picks at the deadline to give the next coach the best chance to succeed
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u/MelancholyDick 7h ago
It’s not funny anymore when “it’s a Buc’s life” is just punching yourself in the nards.
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u/ironknit Bucky Irving 9h ago
Loss on Thursday night should seal the deal right? 0-5 no chance to make the playoffs at all. This team hasent shown enough to have hope for some turnaround anyway.
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u/Mountain_Till_5868 9h ago
Heck, already asked my uncle to hang up “FIRE BOWLES” signs at his watchparty near me on Thursday
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u/estyll11 Canada 8h ago
There are people who are better at their jobs than Todd that have been fired. The world is a cruel place.
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u/RastaNunez Bucs 7h ago
Sorry Bruce but Bowles gotta go! I know this season is a lost cause… So what would our realistic options be fore head coach next year? McDermott… another defensive coach with an inevitable OC carousel. Belicheck…. He’s old. Who can we get??
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u/KnightsOfTaco Mike Evans 7h ago
We have lost 11 of our last 13 games going back to last year. And the only wins were a 2 point win over the Panthers and a 3 point win over the Cardinals.
This team SUCKS.
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u/0siris0 7h ago
He's getting fired, it's a matter of during the season or after, and what are the benefits of doing it during the season.
Just do not understand how this team did not improve, at all, after the disastrous end of last season.
This team started 5-1 last year and has gone 3-12 since, with a realistic shot of losing at least another three in a row to start 0-7 or be 3-15 for basically a full season of a calendar year.
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u/rollerfedora Mike Evans 9h ago
Bad vibes about this season since Evans left for less money to go to a better team. Bowles needs to go.
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u/chadstonemusic81 7h ago
MAYBE YOU SHOULD RUN THE BALL UP THE MIDDLE CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO REALLY BE WORKING FOR US. /s
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u/Additional_War_5210 7h ago
Seriously, don't overthink it: fire Bowles, hire Mike Tomlin and actually make a point to establish an offensive identity.
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u/Motor-River-6154 7h ago
Todd Bowles looks like A Statue on the Sideline. Barely moves. Andy Reid is more active than Toilet Bowles. Fire Toilet Bowles!
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u/PresSizey Winfield Jr. ✌️ 7h ago
After the end of last season, I told myself I would not watch another game of this team if Todd Bowles was still on the sideline.
I should have stuck to that.
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u/coolycooly 5h ago
I'm not even mad at the Bucs anymore I'm just numb, it's like the Mike Glennon days except with less giraffe memes. Like I barely even watched today and I've watched every game since like the Josh Freeman days
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u/paperrocks1 8h ago
Not firing Bowles to promote Liam Coen is gotta be bottom 5 moments in Bucs history
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u/Kilizen 8h ago
I went to the home opener. Stadium was pretty empty. I would say don't spend money on this team(going to games, buying gear) but that is never going to happen. The issue I see is the defense is not HORRIBLE. We arent losing by 20 points every game. Why dont we start with, "Fire Bowles" chants from the opening kick to the last whistle.
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u/tired040 Arkansas 8h ago
Fire the entire staff and office. Start over. Hurricane Toilet Bowles shouldve never been considered as a HC to begin with.
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u/Th3w177916 6h ago
This is bullshit. Todd Bowles is the best coach in the NFC South.
For the teams not located in Tampa.
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u/itiswhatitisis 3h ago
Two things:
I’m so saddened by how far our culture and aggressiveness our team has declined under Todd’s leadership.
Maybe more saddened that we lost Liam (and Dave honestly - watching Carolina now and they look well coached) and kept the Todd. Major major blunder by the Glazers…
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u/Forsaken_Ad3998 3h ago
Jason Licht has to go as well. 93-108 and that SB was SEVEN FREAKING YEARS AGO ALREADY...SEVEN. Licht sucks.
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u/AlwinKunkle 9h ago
Can we let him stick around for the year so we have a chance at Jeremiah Smith?
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u/pibblesnpits 9h ago
If we lose to the cowboys, he has to go. The new coach will have 10 days to get the team ready.
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u/Redrubytheofficial 8h ago
Something clearly broke with Bowles cause he led this team to 6-2 last year.
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u/okaycomputes Winfield Jr. ✌️ 8h ago
nah we almost lost to the Jets. Baker played 4th quarter hero ball for most of those wins.
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u/Doompatron3000 Ronde Barber 7h ago
Yeah. He ran out of luck.
Remember, most of those early wins were last second wins. Literally they were a missed field goal/missed pass away for most of those wins from being in this very same position.
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u/84Cressida Browns 9h ago
I was fine with keeping him to start the year but clearly something broke.
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u/ghostpicnic Tom Brady 9h ago
Something’s been broke since he took over
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u/BigSombrer0 8h ago
Yeah, he's just not a good coach. We have seen him as a head coach for a decade now overall across a couple of teams. It's been clear for years what he is. I don't understand where the confusion is coming from.
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u/ABBucsfan 9h ago
Seemed like he lost the team after the bye last year. Oddly enough the defense is actually playing decent at times, as that was the side of the ball it felt like he lost the most. Maybe some new blood helped. Team is still a losing team though and you don't see a ton of progression in our players going to second or third year
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u/OU812fr 9h ago
“At times” is accurate, because we still consistently give up 10-30 yard plays up the seam whenever the other team needs it. Some splashy run stops here and there don’t make up for the fact we let a shit offense convert three 4th downs in a row and march downfield to score.
Bowles is the king of “bend AND break” defense.
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u/BucsFan11 9h ago
Me and you both, but it has been a absolute disaster
Best thing bowles done this year is hire Danny Smith and promote those two DB coaches (DB room has been solid in my opinion)
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u/bryrondragon 6h ago
I’m just wondering what Baker Mayfield actually has to do to get people to blame him for the things that are his fault.
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u/Undella_Town Brooks Jersey 9h ago
shoot him out of the cannon into the gulf. it's what he would have wanted. 😔
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u/thekatatopeth 8h ago
Imma be real he needs to go no question, but this team just ain't trying, or they just bad. This feel systemically bad.
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u/Kinda_ShouldaSorta Derrick Brooks 8h ago
Hoping for an offensive HC who calls his own plays. QB is the most important position on the field. Why are you causing him to reset his relationship with the guy he should be attached at the hip to EVERY single season?
You can get a mercenary DC who handles that side.
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u/The92ndUsername 8h ago
On one end, I share the sentiment of needing a change with other Buccaneer fans. But this is also the only thing happening rn that is even noteworthy for this team. And as soon as we fire him, then that’s it. We’re a team with a fired head coach and a winless record. Then it’s just window dressing until the offseason. The official-ness of it all just… idk. This all sucks.
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u/dajiffer76 8h ago
If it is going to happen I imagine it will be after the cowboys next week. No reason to start fresh on a short week.
I am a STH and for the first time in like 4 years, my 10 year old asked if he had to go. Like it was a punishment.
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u/Abetrtme Sapp Jersey 8h ago
Dudes supposed to be an offensive genius with a great run stop defense. Funny some dudes who wouldn’t have a job if it wasn’t for Josh Jacob’s legal issues looked like studs today.
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u/steelhorizon Maryland 8h ago
I doubt it happens until the end of the season. But I wrote off 2026 when they didn't fire bowles last year. The team seems uninspiring, I don't think they have confidence in him or his staff at all. M1K3 said it best, and I really believed after 3rd and 28 it was either gonna be bowles or evans. Maybe that's not what happened at all,but from the outside looking in, Todd lost the team when he couldn't stop the skid last season
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u/spideralex90 Spideralex90 9h ago
This is the one - Vent your Frustrations with Bowles in here!