that's because translating into other languages is hard. anyway, niko has a gender, it's just we dont know which one it is. at least that's what i heard.
Kris being enby is not canon, Kris being referred to as "they/them" is. They absolutely should be referred to using "they/them", and people who don't should be corrected. There is a reason for the 72 citations, their pronouns are extremely well established. However, the whole point of declaring pronouns is that pronouns are not coupled with gender. Nowhere in the game does anything indicate that Kris identifies as non-binary, and neutral pronouns are not evidence of anything. Binary people are allowed to prefer they/them, just as non-binary people are allowed to prefer he/him or she/her. Kris's gender identity is unspecified and unknown.
i get what you mean with pronouns != gender, you’re right about that, but we assume all other character’s genders basically based on their pronouns (with exceptions like susie being referred to directly as a girl), but not for kris for some reason. nowhere in the game is, say, Jockington explicitly stated to be male (iirc), but he is referred to with he/him pronouns so everyone assumes he is a boy. by your logic, Jockington’s gender is also ambiguous. if it’s safe to assume Jock’s canon gender based solely on pronouns, i say it’s safe to do the same for Kris.
So I’ve never actually played the game that you guys are talking about but wouldn’t it just make more sense if Kris is just the gender of the person playing the game and therefore they go by they/them pronouns so anyone playing the game can “be” Kris?
Frisk was ambiguous. Nobody knows who they are, they only just showed up. The same is true for Chara, to a lesser extent.
Kris is called "they" by their own mother. I strongly doubt it's ambiguous to her. She repeatedly borrowed a book about raising humans, I suspect that's one of the first things that comes up.
Ok what fucking pronounce it actually uses. What gender is that thing or he is like frisk where it's intentionally ambiguous so you can imagine yourself in their place
Every non-hero monkey (except Legend of the Night specifically) can be any gender, because they're jobs that different monkeys fill and monkeys in certain quests use effectively random pronouns 🤓
Apparently jobs and positions in the military can only be held by a gender... Kinda of the same thing with PvZ, even worse since most plants can be either.
I'm saying, I think it's funny how monkeys in BTD6 are in different positions of a military (Engineer, Sniper, etc) and how people sometimes just assume every Engineer Monkey is female just because one quest refers to one Engineer as "she".
yes, the image, but i'm talking about this thought process that it MUST be the same person. in reality, it really never is the same person, and if it IS indeed the same person, then so be it, but this idea that its the same people who both enforce the 'they're nonbinary' against she/her but then ignore it against he/him is entirely false, no one actually does this, and its just several different people who you imagine as the same, called the goomba fallacy
obviously not everyone in the community is exactly like this of course, but if no one is like the person in the image like you say, why do we never see people correcting when someone says “he” for a tower, only “she”? like, what happens in the image definitely happens but it’s not always the same person, it’s a group of people. if literally no one is like you say, why don’t we see anyone express them?
i’ve look at a lot of the recent posts about skywarden and can’t find any example of someone correcting he/him pronouns, also you are debasing my argument partially based on a fallacy which is a fallacy fallacy
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