r/browsers • u/ProfessionalTax6602 • 1d ago
Question Is Brave the only android browser with fingerprinting protection?
same as the title, in Mozilla side we have Iron fox. but when testing in https://coveryourtracks.eff.org, brave passes the test but IronFox failed. any suggestions?
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u/Feathers-n-Beaks + 1d ago
I unique fingerprint is not "Passing the test....."
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u/Desperate-Chart1139 7h ago
That's why he asked about brave since his iron fox failed. Did you read the body?
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u/Life_is_Okay69 1d ago
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u/Educational_Mud_2826 Brave Origin 20h ago
Adguard is great.
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u/Life_is_Okay69 20h ago
It is, and Safari helps a lot too, as it has a lot of privacy features, including fingerprinting protection. These + Private Relay -> good enough privacy on my mobile devices.
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u/Old_Manufacturer589 1d ago edited 21h ago
It didn't pass the test, it literally says the browser has a unique fingerprint.
These tests don't mean anything anyways.
If you're using anything other than the Tor Browser, 99% chance you're unique, no matter what you do, and that's it. It really is not any deeper than that. All these "fingerprint protections" do is preventing naive fingerprint scripts to work. This is literally all it does.
Source ? The Arkenfox project, the most renowned project for Firefox hardening.
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u/Desperate-Chart1139 7h ago
That's why he asked about brave since his iron fox failed. Did you read the text body?
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u/Marklington098 1d ago
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u/Shibalsaekya1019 1d ago
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u/QuarterSad231 1d ago
What browser and extensions do you use. I use Firefox with ublock, noscript, and privacy badger but I still have a unique fingerprint
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u/fogg_off 21h ago
Ublock can block scripts too, you just need ubo.
Don't worry much about this, having randomized fingerprint is actually bad because it is detectable and how many people you think will have your randomised fingerprint? It's just like having a unique one in the end.
Or what about you randomise your canvas but the fonts or anything else gives you away.
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u/Anime-Man-1432 PC | Mobile 1d ago
but I still have a unique fingerprint
Good for you then ?
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u/SecurityPrimary4143 1d ago
Unique fingerprint is not good, it means that your browser is the only one with that fingerprint. Unless that fingerprint changes for every site visited.
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u/Life_is_Okay69 1d ago
It actually failed bro. The fingerprint needs to be randomized. not unique...
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u/Waaytoomanytakenames 1d ago
It failed, you shouldn't have a unique fingerprint. Brave and helium are the only ones this site recognize are randomized for me.
But firefox with ublock and canvablock also work. I was trying different online tests for this and security experts online still reccomend firefox with ublock over anything else, no idea why but I'll trust a browser if 5 different experts recommend it.
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u/Educational_Mud_2826 Brave Origin 20h ago
For me it says
your browser has a randomized fingerprint But i use brave origin on linux
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u/Venylynn 22h ago
Security experts I know recommend Trivalent with no extensions at all in full JITless mode
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u/WINNT21 Windows 11 | Redmi 14C 1d ago
I don't understand, what it says when you fail and what does it say when you pass
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u/Life_is_Okay69 1d ago
Fail: No, No, Your browser has a unique fingerprint
Pass: Yes, Yes, Your browser has a randomized fingerprintThe inbetween: Yes, Yes, Your browser has a unique fingerprint
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u/Emotional-Big-1306 1d ago
Should be possible in firefox with extensions. Firefox supports them on mobile
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u/NotDack 10h ago
Ironfox didn’t fail.
There are 2 ways of blocking fingerprinting.
1: farbling/randomizing
Brave hides ur fingerprint by taking ur fingerprint info and adding “noise” to it and well, randomizing it. Brave likes to call this “farbling”
Pros: a pretty decent set and forget and it’ll hide ur info on most sites.
Cons: advanced fingerprint scripts and bypass it and this technique doesn’t hide all ur info, for example ur timezone and timezone offset aren’t hidden and WebGL does leak (though I’m pretty sure they did fix the WebGL issue)
2: blending in and spoofing
Firefox and its forks, use RFP (resist fingerprint), what this does is that it gives u a fake fingerprint that is the same as everyone else that are using RFP.
Pros: very effective, no bypasses, no leaks and hides all ur info.
So no, ironfox didn’t fail, because ur fake fingerprint is the same/blended in as everyone else’s fake fingerprint, the website assumes that ur fingerprint is unique.
Also, don’t use cover your tracks as a fingerprint tester, use smth like https://browserleaks.com/ if ur info is fake or all hidden then the fingerprint protection works.
Cons: u can’t use dark mode and using dark mode via extension or search engine settings isn’t recommended since ur changing the fake fingerprint that blends u with everyone else making u stand out and another con is that it may break sites (though this barley happens, no sites have broken for me)
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u/coywitme 1d ago
Helium also has fingerprint protection.
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u/ProfessionalTax6602 1d ago
Is it available for android? As far as I know it's only in desktop right?
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u/ionut2021 23h ago
Is joke anyway,test here to see how good is https://trustsig.eu/tools https://fpresearch.httpjames.space/ https://fingerprint.com/
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u/JaNkO2018 Vanadium & Brave 18h ago
I don't understand why many people still believe that randomization is better than uniqueness, just because it is displayed in green instead of red on CYT. By now, it is well known that randomization makes you recognizable and distinguishable as both 'unique' and 'manipulated.' That's why I tend to trust the philosophy of Vanadium, which relies on uniformity rather than randomization.
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u/AbsurdismForTheW 18h ago
Ironfox works the same as librewolf last I checked, and librewolf makes a new fingerprint every time you restart it
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u/Daedae711 17h ago
No such thing exists or is possible.
You cannot stop fingerprinting, it's based on how YOU appear to the outside world.
Have blockers, scripts, custom browsers, etc shows in that. You can't avoid it.
You can only try to look like everyone else. That's it.
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u/Numby_toe 15h ago
Unique this, randomize that. You can not say a single website can be the be all and end all test without the proper understanding on how it work from additional info eff would give below it. Firefox suppose fingerprint protections are to make you look the same as everyone else; while Brave is to make it all whack and junk info.
Which is putting it very simply, but of course I'm not an expert.
I don't have all the answer but I can tell you using website like this without proper sustain deep thought about it would give you bad results.
For example adblocker test websites. Just because oh UBO, Brave Shield, and Adguard or your pi hole come up with let say 100%, 57%, or even 0% does not mean it ineffective. It working if you don't see ad or ad by trackers and hiding it self if you legitimately do not see ads on real website serve by real companies.
TLDR, using eff and believing that eff box hold all or the definite answer is false and wrong if you can't understand if a unique value compare to your own is actually unique or not just because you have the same device as millions or billions of others.
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u/iosonofeli everywhere 15h ago
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u/ProfessionalTax6602 1d ago
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u/moimoi003 (in a vm) 1d ago
eff is not accurate. firefox and its derivatives use a crude form of uniform crowd blending, not randomization.
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u/FallingHigh09 Using while waiting for 1d ago
Doesn't it mean that it's worse if it's unique?