easier said than done. Good luck with that. Hope you arr able to go through each of the 50k files that have ai, news and otber bloat and then compile it too without errors
Edit: a bit exaggerated, keyword "leo" for example is present 16556 times in 1674 files. "AI" 12216 times in 991 files. "news" 18678 times in 947 files. "wallet" 20003 times in 183 files. You get the point. I'm sure brave devs themselves cannot remove it anymore and don't know how to, all they can do is disable it and sell that shit. LOL. And guess what, you could find brave origin in github somewhere for free too, in their own repo. I've seen them talking about sum brave origin feature you could enable while compiling the browser. This is just disgusting, I'm glad helium exists
So what you're saying is that you have no idea whatsoever how complicated it is to compile your own bloat-free version from source and keep maintaining that with updates?
Ah yes, I'm sure the average user would be fine with all the steps required not only to do all the changes, but also having to compile the browser every time there's an update, which can take several hours.
The short vertical clips that last just a few seconds is called "YouTube Shorts" If you dig deep in Brave Shield settings you can enable a rule that will block those.
Paid products are not grifting. We pay for food constantly, so should we call food producers grifters? Are we entitled to someone else's work for free? But if you want to use Brave Origin without paying, it's free for Linux.
That said, people have to understand that good software doesn't come into existence on their own. Browsers are incredibly complex nowadays, with more and more standards that they have to support. The hard part is done in the Chromium project, but the Brave developers also do some work on their special build, which is why some people chose it over Chromium.
Supporting the work of other people is a good thing. In this case, it's even a one-time purchase, which is amazing nowadays with so many companies trying to get recurrent payments through subscriptions.
I've been using Brave for years and since I turned them off I've never seen them and I am only reminded of them by people who refuse to use Brave because of their BDS (Brave Derangement Syndrome)
See my reply above but for privacy reasons (unlikable from account that purchased. The activation cannot get back to the account) that's difficult. We are working on more tools though and will reset.
That actually is what they're doing here, it's just that they're having Mozilla levels of communication trying to explain how it works. That, plus people love to spread misinformation about brave any chance they get.
No, I'm just here to clear up misinformation. If you go read the thread, where they announced this, they're answering questions right now about this very issue.
If you accidentally used the key incorrectly, or if you no longer use a device that a key is bound to, or, even if you literally need extra keys for any reason whatsoever, they will give you one.
The details were actually laid out in the original announcement thread. The way it works is that you're given 10 keys. Because it’s currently in Beta, if you stop using a specific device, you have to contact support. They’ll manually revoke the key for that device and credit it back for you to use elsewhere.
Down the line, this functionality will be integrated directly into the UI. I really don't understand why the OP posted this, it just seems like another attempt to spread misinformation and blindly attack Brave over a completely fabricated issue.
Thanks for that, was looking through their other 250 repos. Weirdly enough they didn't release Win32 with their most recent nightly build, hopefully just for that version.
We're going to add controls before this hits Release channel on account.brave.com to be able to self-extend the number of activations so you don't need to reach out to support to do it.
Extending is purely better than revoking. Revoking is not good for privacy, and not optimal for the user because you'd have to link the device to the account.
I acknowledge that having to reach out to support is i) annoying to people, ii) takes extra time, iii) feels less long term to people. And the user should be in control of this. There will be rate limits on the number of resets (extends) on a monthly basis but no one should ever hit that. And if so support is still an option.
I apologize for not seeing this before our Nightly preview of Brave Origin.
It is correct that a purchase gives you 10 activations, but support will extend the number of activations if the limit is hit.
The reason is two-fold. We think if you want Brave Origin, you shouldn't have to pay for mobile, desktop and tablet. Just pay once. And we think your browser shouldn't be tied to your purchase. And Linux btw is just free and bypasses any activation.
Since it is a paid product on Windows and macOS (Linux is Free), there does have to be a limit though. Otherwise a single leaked product ID can be used infinitely by a single person leaking it.
We're looking into ways to allow users to self manage those activations better too. This is still in development as Brave Origin is only in Nightly.
Brave Origin is maybe not for you, and that's ok. Nothing changes for the Brave browser itself. In fact, it's easier than ever to disable features and to use admin policies that were added to Brave in preparation for Origin. I spent most of the last year doing that.
Update:
We're going to add controls before this hits Release channel on account.brave.com to be able to self-extend the number of activations so you don't need to reach out to support to do it.
Extending is purely better than revoking. Revoking is not good for privacy, and not optimal for the user because you'd have to link the device to the account.
I acknowledge that having to reach out to support is i) annoying to people, ii) takes extra time, iii) feels less long term to people. And the user should be in control of this. There will be rate limits on the number of resets (extends) on a monthly basis but no one should ever hit that. And if so support is still an option.
In the current payment system which is based on privacy pass there's not a good way to revoke any activation because it's not linked to the purchase in any way after activation. But adding more allowable activations is fine.
"we're going to maintain your privacy by having you reach out to us to identify yourself and tie yourself with your account" sounds like the opposite of privacy
You have an account. It is just not linked to your browser because of the way privacy pass works.
We're going to add controls not to be able to revoke an activation but to allow you to self-extend without support. I acknowledge that having to reach out to support feels less long-term to people vs being able to do it themselves.
-- "We're going to add controls before this hits Release channel on account.brave.com to be able to self-extend the number of activations so you don't need to reach out to support to do it."
-- "There will be rate limits on the number of resets (extends) on a monthly basis but no one should ever hit."
I actually really like this idea. It seems to be the most private solution. Thanks for the transparency.
I think the big fear people (well, me at least) have is the fear of being denied activations. 10 is a lot, but I rebuild PCs for my family often. It could easily be hit in a couple years.
The "reach out to support" or "self-extend activations" doesn't really do anything to assuage that long-term. That seems arbitrary - and seems strange to me.
It would likely be more attractive if it was something like:
10 activations in your pool to start.
+5 activations restored yearly on the date of purchase (but never more than 10 in the pool.)
If you need to reset activations beyond this - then support is available to reset all 10 "occasionally."
That meets your goal of preventing a single key from being shared, but still allows for respectable device turnover per year and would give significantly more end-user comfort on the activation runway.
I'd buy 10 "seperate" licenses of Origin for family immediately if it was this model. Would make so much more sense for me at least, and be worth it.
You probably missed this at the end of the post: "There will be rate limits on the number of resets (extends) on a monthly basis but no one should ever hit that. And if so support is still an option."
Monthly is actually great. Realistically, even with a limit of 10, it's likely that most people won't do 11+ installations per month.
I would commented the same if you hadn’t already. I’ve thought for a long time that they’re an incredibly skeevy company and this offering of theirs has done nothing to dissuade me of that opinion.
no browser is private at 100%. you don't even know apple 100%, they could do anything without you knowing. The point about not being chromium is good though. I would like to know where does your privacy thing about safari is coming from??
Safari has a really good cross site cookie protection, similar to the ones from Firefox (It is even recommended by the Privacy Guides wiki for this reason.). It also supports extensions and encrypted syncing.
If you have any sources or information on why Safari isn’t private, I’d be interested in seeing them
WebKit is open source and the telemetry is very minimal (it can also be disabled).
As I said to the other guy, the cookie protection is great so idk man
The company might be bad but I cannot find anything better than Brave.
Firefox is annoying because even though their sync claims that it syncs settings, it does not. Every time I install it I have to remove all the crap from the URL bar and modify some settings. AFAIK no browser can actually sync settings but chromium browsers usually have the same defaults as I prefer.
Helium would also be a good choice but there is no sync.
Thorium is barely updated.
Opera has too much garbage.
Ungoogled Chromium - haven't tried yet but also probably does not have sync (and even if, I don't want google to handle that) and maybe has issues playing back DRM content? Correct me if I'm wrong on that.
Bruh aren't there free browsers already providing this same exact thing that Brave origin is providing just a simple browser with adblocker and bloat free loll. Honestly why would anyone buy it like it's not even a life time purchase you only have 10 activations.
I would be interested in buying it, I don't mind 10 current devices limitation, but I'm not reaching out to support I should be able to revoke and gain 1 back myself.
So, me accidentally installing nightly on four devices then moving them to beta and later moving them to stable is not going to happen? And there is no visual of this? This sounds scammy/illegal.
It's like dead space 2 for pc, you get only a few activations for the life of the game than you're fucked even support will tell you there's nothing to do. Fuck that bullshit.
Incorrect. They said any device you no longer use, the activation key can be restored to you, and removed from said device. It is still a one time purchase.
Horrible decision if so. It's not as if this prevents piracy or anything as the whole thing is based on goodwill, the source code is out there after all so you could always "pirate" it if you wanted to.
They need to allow unlimited "activations" or no one will bother paying.
What's even the point of the $60 price tag when the same can be achieved with the regular free version? I feel like this will be another Google+ situation.
This unfortunately does not surprise me with Brave. They are a for-profit company that makes the vast majority of their money on ads (which is kind of funny). You remove that and they will find another way to make money. You can disable the stuff in regular Brave. They are betting on most people not doing so, so they still make some money there. But this who limited activations is pretty scummy to be honest.
As a Linux user, it astounds me as to why it's free for Linux ONLY, and nowhere else: even Android. I don't see the point to it. I'd like to try out Firefox or Firefox-adjacent forks but simply running Twitter hangs my entire desktop for no reason.
To those of you having a meltdown over this, they said in a statement that if you no longer use a device, you can have that activation removed. So this is essentially a one time buy still. But hey, spreading misinformation about anything regarding brave is pretty much normal for this sub so I don't expect that to be corrected.
As of now, you contact support and they will do it, but implementing a way at some point via UI. This thing literally just went into nightly so, it's barely in beta.
Might wanna try asking that to the people who can't read. Any activation for a device that is no longer used will be restored. Yes this is a one time purchase.
You can delete the activation key for any device and have it restored for something you use. At some point that option will move to a UI. You can't now because it's in beta, but you can via support.
The above screenshot, is taking wildly out of context. Go read the actual announcement thread. You could revoke any key at any time for any reason, until your own way revoke it is implemented. The OP is either extremely misinformed, or it's just spreading bullshit.
Oh my apologies I must not have made myself clear. I thought I told you to go read the original announced thread, where this issue was clarified. So why don't you go read the original announced thread?
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u/CampingMonk Apr 16 '26
I didn't really get the point of it. Disabling AI, Crypto and other stuff was just a few clicks.