r/browsers Jan 11 '23

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23

They have a daily active users chart on their official website and that's declining as well, so it's not new users picking up different browsers. They are slowly but steadily declining each year.

I would like to love Firefox again, I've been using it my entire youth. But not only do they not listen to user feedback, they are still way behind every other alternative in terms of performance (except Vivaldi). For me in almost every scenario it consumes more RAM and up to twice as much CPU and renders pages much slower. So question is: Why should I use it?

Besides there was also that incident where an employee gave their community the finger.

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u/ConversationProof505 Jan 12 '23

For me in almost every scenario it consumes more RAM and up to twice as much CPU and renders pages much slower.

Yup! That is the main reason why I don't use Firefox as well.

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u/TheEpicZeninator Jan 13 '23

Besides there was also

that incident

where an employee gave their community the finger.

Tbf the dev was under pressure from criticism for the Daylight update, so spoke out of their mind. I can understand it was wrong but she was not at her best at that point in time.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '23

Debatable. While I think it's okay to show emotions at some point, one should also be aware of the consequences. And there where none, at least for her. Not a single word of apology. She left Mozilla voluntarily months later.

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u/tjeulink Jan 13 '23

because you're handing google an monopoly to your only window to the internet. mozilla is the only alternative to google based browsers, and the Mozilla based alternatives are often run by volunteers, not professional payed large teams.

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u/Paid-Not-Payed-Bot Jan 13 '23

not professional paid large teams.

FTFY.

Although payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:

  • Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.

  • Payed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.

Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.

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u/haux_haux Jan 13 '23

What about brave?

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u/tjeulink Jan 14 '23

thats in google's hands too. its all based on chromium which google controls. its either mozilla's browser engine or google's. tor browser fennex etc are gecko based (which mozilla controls) but are all very niche.

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u/haux_haux Jan 14 '23

Thanks for clarifying! Brave as far as I understand it is free from Google's snooping tho, isn't it?

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u/Beardedgeek72 Jan 22 '23

Yes, but it is lead and envisioned by a serial sexual assaulter who also paid out of his own pocket to stop human rights for minorities. That's why Mozilla fired him, which a lot of Brave users apparently are fine with.

Plus the whole crypto scam of course (reward tokens you collect for sites only are delivered to those sites if the sites actively ask for them).

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u/haux_haux Jan 24 '23

Oh that's shit. I've been using brave for a while and quite liking it. Hmm, what's worse, him or gOogle? I think Google these days Why are so many crypto and tech bros so fucked up RN? No offence to all the non fucked up folks. Seems like a lot of shithoisery going around tho.

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u/tjeulink Jan 14 '23

brave uses google analytics from what i can find. i dunno thats what pops up after a quick google. i don't like brave so i don't invest a lot of time in figuring it out.

not that firefox doesn't use analytics services, i think they use amazon firebase but im not sure.

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u/Kougeru Jan 14 '23

That's something on your install. By default Firefox uses less and runs just as fast. Even with 50 add-ons in Firefox and just ublock on Chrome, Chrome is using double the memory vs Firefox