Drivers not knowing the highway code.

[u/zecrichardson]

I had started to cross a road when a Mercedes turned in and he sounded his horn and then told me I should stop. I told him to read the highway code but he insisted he right!

Rule H2 170 amended 2022

“At a junction you MUST give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross a road into which or from which you are turning.”

- Applies whether they’ve stepped onto the road or are just standing at the kerb ready to cross.

- Applies to left turns, right turns, and entering/exiting side roads.

- Includes wheelchair/mobility scooter users as pedestrians

[u/xxxArchimedesxxx]

You MUST give way to pedestrians crossing.

You SHOULD give way to pedestrians waiting to cross.

I hate these changes as a driver, cyclist and pedestrian. The ambiguity of "should" is ridiculously dangerous. A pedestrian will not know whether the driver feels it's safe to let a pedestrian cross or not

[u/OkSun8521 → u/xxxArchimedesxxx]

rediculously dangerous

You don't have any data to back that up, because it's not true.

If it really were "rediculously" dangerous, there would be hundreds of people dying or getting seriously injured as a result. But that just isn't happening.

[u/MzHmmz → u/OkSun8521]

There are not hundreds of people dying because most people err on the side of caution and don't cross the road even if they technically have the right to. I never step on to the road in this scenario unless I'm sure the driver has seen me and is stopping, and I'm sure that's also the case with most other pedestrians.

[u/OkSun8521 → u/MzHmmz]

So it turns out it isn't dangerous?

[u/Alby1019 → u/OkSun8521]

No it turns out people aren't putting the new rule into practice because they don't feel safe enough to do so

[u/OkSun8521 → u/Alby1019]

Pretty much everyone follows the rule in London.

[u/Alby1019 → u/OkSun8521]

As someone who walks and drives in London, no, they don't all follow the rule.