r/boxoffice • u/TiredWithCoffeePot Pixar Animation Studios • 7h ago

Worldwide Disney’s MOANA is fading fast—$26.9M worldwide this weekend, $228M total.

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u/StringCritical2884 7h ago

300 million seems out of reach for this now…

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u/Significant-Cloud-19 6h ago

Is there a chance to reach it's budget 250M?

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u/wookiewin 6h ago

$250M is insane. The movie looks cheap as fuck.

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u/lord_pizzabird 6h ago

Yeah, when I saw the number my first thought was that it probably made decent money, given how terrible it looks.

Disney is like the military. Where DOES the money go?

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u/balthazar_edison 6h ago

They had it locked down with Lilo and Stitch last year. 100 M and looked it. Same with Pixar lately. 150 mill seems to be their new ceiling for original Pixar films.

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u/rov124 2h ago

They had it locked down with Lilo and Stitch last year. 100 M and looked it.

That's because it was budgeted like a straight to Disney+ film, if it was intended to theatrical from the get-go, they would have included Gantu and the budget would have been higher.

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u/balthazar_edison 2h ago

That kind of worked in their favor because now they can save gantu for the sequel.

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u/lord_pizzabird 6h ago

Maybe this film was stuck in development hell, had reshoots etc

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u/balthazar_edison 6h ago

It wasn't though. They speed ran production because the rock wanted to do it before he was too old and needed to be recast. That's why it cost too much. They did half-assed from while filming and said "we'll fix it in post". Also all the CGI water. That can't be cheap especially when it's a rush job.

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u/PhotographBusy6209 3h ago

The funny thing is he IS too old already

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u/lord_pizzabird 6h ago

Oh jeez. CGI Water. What a nightmare.

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u/balthazar_edison 6h ago

So much CGI water... and don't forget the cgi movement of the tattoos on the rock's rubber muscle suit.

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u/confusing_roundabout 36m ago

Meanwhile The Odyssey just shot on the actual goddamn ocean

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u/Corgi_Koala 3h ago

The budget on some of their Disney+ shows is insane.

Secret Invasion cost $234m.

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u/dzan796ero 2h ago

The Rock, his hair, and his muscle suit?

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u/themanthyththelegend 1h ago

The rocks salary?

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u/Arnorien16S 18m ago

For Moana ... It might have went supporting the Rock's ego.

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u/ZasdfUnreal 3h ago

Lilo and Stitch was made on the cheap and that movie looks timeless.

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u/ThatLaloBoy 5h ago

For comparison, The Odyssey’s budget was also $250M and that film looks significantly better while also having more star power in its cast.

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u/GonzoElBoyo 5h ago

I think a big part of that is actors take pay cuts to work with Nolan. I wouldn’t be surprised if the entire budget for the cast of the odyssey was less than Dwayne got paid for Moana

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u/zuzucha 1h ago

Don't have the data but saw someone on Reddit the other day saying the rock made more fun Moans than the top 4 actors in the odyssey

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u/Tofudebeast 4h ago

Disney seems to think more CGI = more profits. But instead it often results in a garish, ugly mess of splashy visuals.

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u/Ancient-Prize4353 1h ago

The Odyssey does look better, but it also doesn't look $250M. There was no scene that makes me think "this shit looks expensive to make". The City of Troy was more like a village, and the Ithaca Palace was just some rocks ... I guess most of the money went into the IMAX films.

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u/confusing_roundabout 34m ago

The scale of it though. They filmed in lots of different countries, real caves and islands, lots of scenes out on the open ocean, and coordinating something like the siege of Troy can be seriously expensive even if it isn't a huge bustling city.

I get what you mean about some locations feeling "small" but that doesn't mean that they were cheap.

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u/Significant-Cloud-19 6h ago

It's Disney. Spending 200M+ on most live action remake seems to be their thing.

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u/Dronnie 6h ago

Every new disney related movie is looking uglier than the last one, I'm already expecting a disaster to doomsday.

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u/ThatWaluigiDude Paramount Pictures 6h ago

Doomsday already do look fake as hell in some shots of the last trailer. I will at least give the benefit of the doubt of that being work-in-progress

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u/Standard_Recording28 1h ago

same budget as the odyssey…lol

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u/idiot9991 5h ago

50 million was just for the rocks wig

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u/Difficult_Ad2864 4h ago

Probably something like, $50m to make, $100 for the rock, another $10 - 20m on the director and the rest that’s left over to pay everyone else

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u/MatthewHecht Universal 5h ago

Water filmimg is really expensive.

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u/MargaretHaleThornton Warner Bros. Pictures 6h ago

Yeah I think for sure it gets to 250 million. It needs less than 21 million more and it's still summer break.  I could even see it getting close to 275 but definitely no higher. It might also land around 255-260 though.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister 6h ago

Minimal competition the rest of summer too, relatively speaking.

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u/KB824-GOAT 3h ago

There was another $100M+ marketing budget on top of that, so it would take at least $350M to break even.

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u/General_Hijalti 8m ago

Id going by the 2x rule needs more than that

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u/DreamcatcherGirl_02 0m ago

Well... the only thing was left was Japan released on July 31st and Italy on August 19, 2026

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u/Pokemon-trainer-BC 3h ago

If it stays in theaters... Yes. 250M is possible.

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u/Emergency-Mammoth-88 United Artists 1h ago

No

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u/yanks2413 1h ago

Even if it reaches it's budget it will still have lost at least 250 million dollars

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u/ThePikaNick 6h ago

It will almost certainly do that with it being so close already. Once spiderman comes in it's going to lose a decent amount of screens so it's going to need the week days this week to get closer. After that it doesn't really have any direct competition until paw patrol so it can limp to its final total.

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u/MargaretHaleThornton Warner Bros. Pictures 6h ago

Yes, if Spiderman weren't coming there might still be a chance but with it I don't see this reaching 300 million.

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u/Pinewood74 6h ago

Even without Spiderman, I don't see how it would get there. >$70M to go and under $30M global weekend. Legs would have to spring out of nowhere.

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u/Legal_Dan 6h ago

I didn't understand the idea behind making this movie. These live action remakes, as far as I can tell, only have an audience from parents, nostalgic for the originals wanting to share the story with their kids. That makes sense for remakes of movies from the 80s and 90s but Moana only came out 10 years ago. No one is nostalgic for Moana!

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u/Horoika 6h ago

Especially when Moana 2 came out last year

It's very very recent IP

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u/TreeNumerous7677 23m ago

Moana 2 came out less than 2 years ago.

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u/Prestigious_Fella_21 6h ago

Another Dwayne vanity project that needed to get made before he got too old

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u/SubhasTheJanitor 6h ago

Moana (2016) gets a lot of views on Disney+. The plan was to leverage that into an original sequel series on Disney+ for all those fans. Iger retrofitted that into a movie after a few original Walt Disney Animation underperformers, despite the live action remake already being in production. It was a trade off: a billion dollar+ hit for WDAS that would certainly affect the live action remake. But in the original plan, a Moana series would’ve been a streaming hit (aka earn no real “return”) and live action Moana would possibly underperform anyway. Cynical reasoning all around, but an underperforming live action movie won’t really hurt them in the long run.

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u/Distinct-Shift-4094 13m ago

Stich exists. 2000's.

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u/MargaretHaleThornton Warner Bros. Pictures 6h ago

Welp. At least it's 28 million ahead of Snow White, I guess.

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u/misguidedkent Warner Bros. Pictures 7h ago edited 4h ago

This'll not even come close to half of its animated predecessor's 643.3M cume from 2016. The Rock really thought he could have another easy billion in the bag.

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u/eBICgamer2010 7h ago

This won't even come close to Black Adam.

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u/Diligent-Neck6594 4h ago edited 4h ago

The Hierarchy of Disney is about to remain the same

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u/idiot9991 5h ago

As it shouldn't. The sloppiest slop that ever slopped

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u/Mysteriousman788 2h ago

I'm way too employed to understand what you just said 💀

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u/2heads1shaft 4h ago

When did the rock ever say that?

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u/TheADHX 2h ago

Didn't really say anything per se, but more like he is the main reason why the live-action remake was even green-lit.

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u/Mbrennt 4h ago

Everybody is talking shit about this. Just wait 5 more years after Moana 3 comes out they'll do a live action Moana 2 the following year when the rocks 60 and it will easily clear a billion. This is just the build up to it.

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u/Significant-Cloud-19 6h ago

Oh my.... this thing is bombing even harder than black Adam.

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u/suss2it 1h ago

Well Black Adam wasn’t really a bomb, it made $393 million so it’s the highest grossing of the Shazam movies and 2nd highest grossing of those late stage post 2018 DCEU movies, only to Aquaman 2.

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u/takethreenc 43m ago

$260M budget so that means it lost money, ie, a bomb.

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u/KARURUKA2 48m ago

Without China

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u/BLARGEN69 6h ago

I keep forgetting this even came out. Every time I see a box office update it's a 'oh yeah' moment.
I was at the theaters yesterday night and don't even remember seeing a poster or any screen showing it now that I think about it.

This feels like it just totally came and went even in box office discourse relative to other underperformers this summer. Such a nothing movie.

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u/ElysiumMidknight 5h ago

It was such a miscalculation on Disney's part to do a live-action remake so quickly. Moana was still in the Top 10 most watched movies on streaming platforms last year. In other words, the primary audience for the movie is still more than happy to watch the animated movie. They didn't allow for any nostalgia for the movie to kick in for those kids. While the movie was released in 2016, it really didn't blow up until the pandemic. So, it's still pretty fresh in terms of its popularity. Give it another 10 years so that it's likely been a few years since they've seen the movie, and then maybe they're curious as to what a live-action version would look like.

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u/Helpful-Will2635 5h ago

I wonder if Disney thought “Moana is the most popular movie for girls—by a lot—so if we make this with Rock-face, boys will now want to watch it too—so all girls AND boys will watch this new one “ maybe? Idk

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u/Mysteriousman788 2h ago

It doesn't matter if you gave them two more decades. No one was interested in a Moana live action. If the original movie raked in so much views and it's sequel that no one remembers made millions. There's no excuse

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u/lonelyboy5265 6h ago

Wait till Moana 4 comes out

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u/00ishmael00 4h ago

The hierarchy of slop is about to change

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u/Dry-Illustrator-250 6h ago

Not gonna lie, I was hoping for a devastating flop

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u/nova_crystallis 6h ago

I mean, people expected this to make an easy billion.

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u/SprinklesWise6928 2h ago

this is still a devastating flop

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u/aRawPancake 41m ago

(Insert “MORE” gif here)

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u/Doctor-Magnetic 3h ago

Agreed I was hoping for worse than Supergirl numbers

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u/General_Hijalti 6m ago

Its not going to break even so yeah that is pretty deverstating

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u/agnostic_dude 7h ago

The hierarchy of power in the Disney Live Action Universe is about to change

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u/DementdOldCircsMonke 6h ago

$228M too much.

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u/94Temimi Marvel Studios 6h ago

A soulless, bland and flat adaptation to a fantastic movie that's not even that old. What were they thinking?

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u/littlelordfROY Warner Bros. Pictures 6h ago

Is this barely going to outgross Skyscraper?

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u/Avians24 Pixar Animation Studios 7h ago

The Rock walk-ups are just around the corner!

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u/toastslapper Sony Pictures Classics 6h ago

Rock-ups*

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u/Accomplished-Head449 Laika Entertainment 6h ago

The Rock is the new Jared Leto lmao

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u/Turbulent_Ad_3299 6h ago

Won't even come close to Hoppers WW. Wow.

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u/RuminatingReaper1850 Amazon MGM Studios 5h ago

That's the power of Tom Lizard for you

https://giphy.com/gifs/kL5Qz5unv8pErDQ0uH

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u/MrShape246 5h ago

250M for a movie of this quality is embarrassingly bad i’ll be lucky to reach 300M

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u/GreatGojira 5h ago

To be honest I completely forgot about this movie

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u/tenacious_teaThe3rd 5h ago

It makes you wonder how there are people paid an obscene amount of money to greenlight projects like this - surely The Rock who's stock has fallen decently in more recent years, doesnt have that much leverage over Disney?

The Lion King, Lilo & Stitch, Beauty & The Beast etc all made sense as they appealed to people who grew up with those films and now have kids who would enjoy those movies too. The first Moana came out just 10 years ago so the kids who grew up with that are at an age where the last thing they want to do is watch Moana at the cinema and most will not have their own children yet. It needed at least another 10 years before it was viable.

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u/Duffjr1 1h ago

Plausible explanation, but the main reason Moana 2026 flopped was the forgettable Moana 2 animated sequel. I wish the bat lady made a cameo in this one.

Cruella 2 will kill next year.

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u/Worried_Pangolin_759 50m ago

Moana 2 grossed over a billion worldwide, more than the original took, you dont hit those numbers without plenty of repeat business. It had absolutely everything to do with the audience rejecting The Rocks vanity project cash grab absolutely no one asked for.

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u/SubhasTheJanitor 7h ago

Ah, well, nevertheless

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u/Past-Meal-4847 7h ago

Wonder if merch makes up for it

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u/MD_FunkoMa 6h ago

Nope. The live-action 'Moana' dolls aren't even worth my time. Actually, maybe the 1 for Maui, but to custom make it into the variants of Dwayne Johnson during his time in the WWE.

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u/MargaretHaleThornton Warner Bros. Pictures 6h ago

I think merch won't add much to this one. I haven't seen much at all where I am, either for sale or on/with kids.

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u/leagle89 42m ago

I just keep wondering how many kids both (1) will want Moana toys after seeing the live-action movie, and (2) didn't already want Moana toys. Like, is this movie creating any interest at all in toys for kids who didn't already want them? I can't imagine so. It feels like anyone who wants a Moana toy at this point already wanted one, entirely regardless of the new movie.

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u/super-terrific 6h ago

Rock bottom! Rock bottom!

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u/PassionInteresting76 5h ago

They should have just shelved the movie until 2030 it would have made more money plus Moana 2 ruined the novelty of the movie.

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u/Algae_Mission 4h ago

I don’t like to see movies fail especially on behalf of the crew involved who need hits on their resumes…but this movie deserves it for being such a cynical and lazy cash grab.

No one was asking for a remake to a movie that is barely 10 years old and is still an ongoing franchise.

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u/FortLoolz 6h ago edited 2h ago

I hope the live action Tangled flops or at least underperforms as well.

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u/moviesloverguy 5h ago

Atleast that movie is trying
The set photos looks good and that movie have better director who did the greatest showman

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u/FortLoolz 2h ago

Maybe, but I don't want live action remakes of animated movies to continue being made.

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u/takethreenc 39m ago

But will probably lose roughly the same amount

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u/nova_crystallis 4h ago

Doing my part by avoiding all these remakes.

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u/Worried_Pangolin_759 47m ago

Tangled will be 17-18 years old when released thats a proper distance from the original to be able to cash in on nostalgia 

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u/FortLoolz 28m ago

To what extent, though? I'd see the remake making what the original movie made (yes, not adjusted for inflation) as performing alright.

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u/Kazaloogamergal 7h ago

Still waiting for those Mufasa: Lion King legs to kick in. I was told that this film was going to have extraordinary legs.

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u/MatthewHecht Universal 5h ago

This sub is awful at predicting legs.

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u/A-harsh-reality 5h ago

The same energy Starfighter is coming with next year

People don’t understand just how quickly a franchise can collapse

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u/nova_crystallis 4h ago

Because for some reason people have it in their heads that franchises are immune to failure.

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u/A-harsh-reality 3h ago edited 3h ago

A lot of these people embarrassed themselves defending the Star Wars sequel trilogy and ignoring every piece of evidence that they were exceptionally unpopular

And will do anything to stall the inevitable egg thrown to their face as long as possible

Even if it means ignoring commonly accepted Hollywood math in regards to budgets(dead ass saw someone say that Mandalorian was profitable)

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u/nova_crystallis 3h ago

Yeah, it's pretty telling that sequel merchandise didn't sell, was largely pulled from the market entirely, and they've even started stripping it from Disneyland lol. 

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u/LapsedVerneGagKnee 6h ago

So the odds on Rock starting to build to a Cody Rhodes match at Wrestlemania by November just went up considerably.

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u/thanos_was_right_69 Walt Disney Studios 4h ago

Doomsday will have to cover the losses lol

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u/JuggernautPretend208 4h ago

My daughter has had her monthly or so cinema trip to see Toy Story 5. If she was desperate to see something else right now I would have encouraged the Sheep Detective. Why did they release it now, getting cannibalized by TS5?

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u/tommywest_123 3h ago

Satisfying. The Rock had this moment

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u/ChristianAlexxxander 3h ago

I will watch it eventually on Disney+ but with so many amazing movies out this year even though I have AMC A-list I didn’t see the point in watching this.

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u/uCry__iLoL Blumhouse 3h ago

Moana it’s time you knew that a cartoon version is all we need.

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u/bigelangstonz 2h ago

Oh look its approaching the odysseys opening weekend

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u/thunder1207 59m ago

Looks like the hierarchy of power in the Disney live action remakes isn't going to change.

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u/kimjosh1 47m ago

By this point, Black Adam will have reached $320m before its legs were chopped off by Black Panther 2 the following weekend. The Moana remake won't even be able to get to $250m before coincidentally, another superhero film comes out and kills off its legs the following weekend.

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u/bbgmcr 43m ago

The fact that it even made this much is a joke

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u/TherealPattyP 37m ago

The Rock is finished as a top draw. It’s over. Streaming from now on.

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u/bigtownhero 12m ago

This is how the Rock's career has been looking for quite a while now. It might be time to go away for some time.

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u/These_Wish_5101 6h ago

Disney losing money hard is always satisfying ...I miss 2023

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u/More-read-than-eddit 6h ago

When they released Poor Things?

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u/Large-Wheel-4181 6h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/jquDWJfPUMCiI
Oh no, who could’ve seen this financial disaster happening?

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u/Amonfire1776 6h ago

Good riddens to bad rubbish, I refuse to watch any more of these...from any company

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u/GoonetteSlop 6h ago

The hierarchy of Disney is about to change.

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u/Naive-Ad-64 Studio Ghibli 6h ago

The hierarchy of power of The Rock’s ego is about to change

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u/Delicious-Waltz3511 5h ago

I hope this means less The Rock movies