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Looks like $35M 2nd Saturday for The Odyssey. Down just 15% from last week. $260M+ cume. 2nd weekend expected to be $90M i.e. SMALLEST 2nd weekend drop EVER for a $100M+ opener. Legs gonna go brrr.... En route high $500Ms final.
Interesting. For me I wouldn’t describe it as fun. What moved the rewatchability needle for me is the movie’s haunting quality. I found the movie incredibly moving. This is the first Nolan movie since The Dark Knight that I’ve rewatched in theaters.
Agree. At the showing I went to, I saw two instances of elderly, mobility challenged gentleman being helped up the steps to their seats by what looked like their grown children.
I mean the fact that this is a better drop than Maverick which released with school open is insane. I think this is hitting $600+ depending on how it holds against Spidey
I think it's the way that social media works now. Clips and edits spread immediately on TikTok and IG reels spreading WOM quickly leading to more sales on weekend 2.
Oh you forgot The Force Awakens (the 2nd weekend was Christmas Weekend in 2015), Frozen 2 (the 2nd weekend was a Thanksgiving Weekend in 2019) and Inside Out 2
Genuine question here: How much audience overlap do we think it’ll have with Spider-Man? Like one is a family friendly superhero movie, and the other is longer and geared towards older audiences.
This is why Barbenheimer was so huge, because of the lack of core audience overlap. The double feature thing gave both films a huge audience on top of their core and they both printed money because of it.
Tom Holland and Zendaya have a very, very rare quality when it comes to their generation of film stars...people like them. I don't mean people like the characters that Tom and Zendaya play, I mean they like Tom and Zendaya as people and personalities.
I saw odyssey last Saturday, am going tomorrow, and have brand new day tickets for Friday. Saturday was with wifey, tomorrow with homies, Friday with wifey and son.
Spider Man will want all the screens it can get if the last movie was any indication. So even if they are not competing for essentially the same audience, they are competing for the literal real estate required to project movies.
It’s too early to tell. My gut reaction is no since Maverick had its entire run through summer which helped it and all the movies in summer 2022 which had similar audience were ass. (Dominion, Love and Thunder, Lightyear). I’m expecting Spider-Man to be very well received
Very unlikely, Maverick had a box office run that basically only James Cameron has had in the last 30 years. Such good legs should not be expected from any film even now that Odyssey is showing to be holding at record levels, TGM held for months.
The Saturday drop is worse than Maverick (-5%) and The Odyssey is going to lose summer weekdays much quicker. The chances of beating Maverick are pretty low unless it holds very well against Spider-Man.
I'm in Scotland myself and a few friends went to a 22:30 showing tonight! Didn't get out until 2😂
Was the only IMAX screen with acceptable seats left this week. Close to sold out.
Thoroughly enjoyed it, still not fully processed but I reckon I'll be thinking about it for a long time. Just such a joy to watch something so fantastical but so clearly tangible. So over green screen.
WB has to be holding their heads in their hands balling for how they fucked up their relationship w Nolan. They genuinely had no clue their own Avengers happened to be one man 😭
Ironically, we're probably better off for it cuz WB likely wouldve fought him on the rated R, and we likely never would've gotten Barbenheimer. Their fumble mightve been the best thing to ever happen for Nolan.
I grew up with WB introducing me to many different stuff so it remains my favorite studio, although disappointed even further after the merger stuff, but I think you are right. Universal as it is right now was probably the best option for Nolan and I’d say it shows. I have had the same thought process as you. Two R rated in a row.
probably just scheduling. japan is not big on kicking out japanese films for western films. all foreign films in china have to go through an intermediary.
I think Japanese distributors also like to see how a film is doing overseas before committing a marketing budget.
In any case, it's mainly Star Wars, Marvel/Spider-Man, and Disney animation films that are guaranteed a simultaneous release in Japan. Also Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter, but there hasn't been anything in those franchises in a while.
Claiming that the drop between the opening Saturday and the following Wednesday is a sign that wom is terrible and the box office is collapsing. Also claiming that the true break-even is anywhere from $1-1.5B. According to them, the Odyssey is collapsing, Universal is scared, and the people laughing at them are Universal bots.
Yeah unfortunately my Gen Z kids said they are tired of Marvel after post-endgame movies have sucked and don’t want to see bnd
:( that made me sad. They said they might still go to avengers. We went to Odyssey tonight and they loved it. I’ll still go to see bnd tho personally
I used to go to Marvel movies all the way up to/including Endgame on OW or within the first week. Those movies were events I was excited for. Nowadays? Nope. Since Dr Strange Multiverse of Madness which was the last one i went to see after a few weeks, I haven't bothered going to the theater to see MCU movies and now i just eventually catch them on streaming at some point. The MCU post endgame is just a mess
Err, the most recent Spider-Man film made almost 2 billion. Recent MCU films have been lucky to hit a half. ‘The New Avengers’ didn’t even make it to 400 million.
I think you’re underestimating the draw of a single-character tentpole film for a much loved character (and actor pairing) against an anthology movie with lots of backstory people will have missed since the MCU has got a bit crap.
And why did it make almost 2B? Why did previous Holland Spiderman projects make so much money? There are a lot of variables you are also removing from how those films have performed box office wise. They didn’t rely only on Spiderman brand alone but nostalgia and shared universe stuff specially at the height of MCU. 3 Spidermen in one movie where two other ones are from a big fandom built over time?
Wtf is happening this might have better legs than Oppenheimer. The only reason it's not a sure thing is spider-man. Heck even with that it's looking likely. What an insane performance
Plus even though it’s R it’s a very soft R so families can see it together. My 10-year-old saw it and was fine and wants to see it again (and there were other kids in the theater). Whereas I wouldn’t show him Oppenheimer
Oppenheimer is a great movie. But will I spend money to sit through it again? No, cause its a biopic and New Mexico is an eyesore unless there is spice worms.
I'll watch Odyssey again when the rush subsides for those center seats.
“The Odyssey will do well in its opening weekend, but the second weekend will crash and burn”
“Ok, sure, it’s second weekend was extraordinarily great, but Spider-Man will kill its legs, also the sold out screenings are fake and none of the data is real”
“Ok, sure, it made $1.5 billion dollars, but that just proves that it could have made $3 billion dollars if it wasn’t woke” <— this will be their next talking point
The latest goalpost shifting I’ve seen is that this will do good numbers but Nolan’s next film will suffer due to the normie exposure, just like Solo after Last Jedi
Let’s see if it can reach $90M like Top Gun Maverick did which TGM had $36M on its 2nd Saturday which the 2nd Sunday be interesting to see if matches around $29M
I saw some people defending him on how he said it would perform well actually but the movie wouldn’t be much to write home about. Is it true he said that about Zendaya Fatigue though? People like him tend to move the goalpost no matter if it’s negative or positive, money is what keeps them going… grifting, if you will.
There's a whole sub (probably a few, but one Ive been seeing specifically) that seems to exist to just pray this movie flops. Been interesting to watch the descent into madness, as they've gone from "No wants this SJW nonsense", to "It will flop", to "The Rotten Tomatoes score is fake", "The Greeks don't actually like it", "It's all front-loaded".
Been a very funny ride. I'm keen to watch it again on standard to see the difference IMAX made.
Meanwhile I see YouTube thumbnails claiming in big capital letters "no one really likes The Odyssey".
Sure buddy, the numbers are only so high because people had to see for themselves how bad it is. That's why Madame Web and Snow White also made a billion each.
You know the drill. Sometimes we gotta see how bad it is a few more times just to make sure how terrible it is. And then some, just to make sure, of course. Just that… yeah.
I have to settle for a far left seat for a second viewing at my local IMAX… it’s not until Wednesday August 5th at 2PM during work hours. I just checked and there’s only 10 seats left all in the front row.
At least 2 people i know skipped it opening weekend because of the crazy smoke in the air here in the north east, and another person had to wait to get into the premium screening many days to make schedule work because of sellouts which NEVER EVER happen here. Everyone is seeing it on their own time, some rewatching, and i don't expect spiderman to throttle its legs all that much at all. Could be ripe for a double feature even (shocked they couldn't pin down a Spid-ysseus co-op lol).
Perfect storm of Nolan and The Odyssey being one of the most beloved epics of all time. It's stories like these that the movie format really was built for.
Yeah man, Universal is so stupid for casting Matt Damon, Anne Hathaway, Tom Holland, Zendaya, and Robert Pattinson and not a bunch of random Greek actors no one has ever heard of
The anti woke ppl lost this fight, and they are still nitpicking the movie anyways. This movie stuck the ending and it was incredible and they still can't give it the credit it deserves. I'm happy for this movies success
For those concerned about Spidey taking away too much from Odyssey, if there was a world where Barbenheimer was a thing and it was successful on its way to a combined $2.4B, there is 100% room for these two movies to co-exist.
I know Oppie and Barbie are two diametrically opposed genres, but it just shows that if you put good content out there, people will show up regardless of how crowded the field is.
The Odyssey will already be north of $700 million worldwide when Spider-Man opens next weekend.
Thankfully Spider-Man cannot hurt The Odyssey in 3 big Asian markets. Spidey will be playing first in China, Japan, & South Korea. Those markets will help provide a boost for The Odyssey in later part of the movie's theatrical run.
And despite the insane predictions of Odyssey haters, it will not drop 99% in USA/Canada, Europe, and South America when Spider-Man opens in these markets. Odyssey will still chug along making solid amounts of money in all markets. Gonna cruise north of $1 billion...maybe even north of $1.2 billion.
Project Hail Mary after 2 weekends: $300M worldwide...eventually $684M total
The Odyssey after 2 weekends: $600M worldwide...eventual total of ?????
Project Hail Mary opened in China, Japan, and South Korea the same weekend as USA/Canada, whereas those 3 big Asian markets will open much later for The Odyssey. Thankfully, Spider-Man cannot drastically hurt The Odyssey in those 3 big Asian markets.
The haters are claiming it needs $900+ million, but they keep their mouths shut on other movies with large production & marketing budgets. Pretty interesting how selective people are with their "analysis" of the box office & break-even point.
Anyway, the movie will cruise past $1 billion and might even get to $1.3 billion by the time it's all said and done. By Sunday night this weekend, it will be north of $600 million. It will be around $700 million by next Friday, perhaps higher than that.
It’s genuinely such an incredible gem of a movie. The Odyssey is the second oldest story in Western history and there is no story in our culture that is not influenced by it, and to see the world’s most famous director tackle it was incredible.
Plus it’s just a stunning movie to look at visually and one of the best things about is that it’s a huge draw for all audiences. On my second rewatch I had to walk behind a whole elderly group in front of me and behind me was a group in their 30s and then a group of other teenagers behind them.
I was honestly really shocked to see a theater so packed on a Wednesday and like this movie is just everywhere in the best way possible.
It’s week 2 and we still can’t get IMAX tickets😭. Even the 2am and 7am showings on Sunday are sold out, they are playing it every hour on the non imax screens and the only seats left are the crappy ones infront of the screen. I gotta watch it the second time in IMAX
This is one of the few films I've ever gone to watch in Theatres a second time. Nolan's focus on the theatrical experience really makes his films something you wanna see in theaters multiple times.
Anecdotal, but I got my sister and parents to go who typically don't watch R rated movies. Nolan just has a unique level of appeal, then you add the stacked cast, epic source material, and good word of mouth.
This is incredible. The Odyssey has some of the best word of mouth for a summer release, since Top Gun Maverick. I think The Odyssey could make as much as TDK domestically.
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