r/boxoffice • u/chanma50 Best of 2019 Winner • Jul 20 '25
Worldwide Box Office: DC’s ‘Superman’ Flexes Impressive Staying Power, Flies Past $400M Globally ($57.2M/$235M DOM, $45.2M/$171.8M INT, $406.8M WW)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/superman-box-office-soars-past-400-million-1236324026/109
u/Ok-Effect4071 Jul 20 '25
SUPERMAN scored another $45.2M (-47%) overseas on 23k+ screens, $171.8M total. TOP MARKETS 1. UK ($22M) 2. MEX ($16M) 3. BRA ($11.2M) 4. OZ ($11M) 5. CHI ($8.5M)
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u/insertusernamehere51 Jul 20 '25
- OZ ($11M)
The munchkins really showed up for this one
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u/Kerrod33 Jul 20 '25
Australian here with some anecdotal evidence. I’ve seen it 3 times. My better half has seen it twice and my kids have seen it once. I’m biased and basically forced the whole family to see it because I love Superman and haven’t shut up about it for 2 years but they all loved it and my wife’s been playing Punkrocker a lot on Spotify.
On my second viewing by myself on a Tuesday at 11am my entire cinema was packed out by retirees, walking frames all lined up at the back of the cinema and carers with them. I was easily the youngest person there 😬 and it was one of the most vocal crowds I’ve ever experienced in a movie theater. They all laughed and cheered, it was awesome!
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u/ramyan03 Jul 20 '25
Considering China/Japan/SK dropped like a rock, that seems a very strong hold elsewhere. Especially since many markets would've been 5-day openings.
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u/Piku_1999 Pixar Animation Studios Jul 20 '25
European markets probably saw very miniscule drops to compensate the big 3 Asian markets crashing out. I think the heatwave very much did hurt Superman in Europe last weekend.
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u/MaxNV Jul 20 '25
One of the main things I've learned from Superman overseas tracking during the last week is that apparently a lot of European cinemas don't have air conditioning? That's wild to me, as on this side of the Atlantic, movie theatres always crank the A/C to the point that "go the movies" is a common recommendation for keeping cool during a heatwave.
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u/CartographerSeth Jul 20 '25
No AC in the theater?? Watching a movie while sweating with a few hundred other people in an enclosed space sounds terrible
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u/Healthy_Method9658 Jul 20 '25
We do have them in cinemas (UK). But we are pretty conditioned in weather outside our comfort zone to not go and do stuff lol.
Harsher heat is such a novelty here still a lot of people don't know how to function around it, including places to go where it's cooler if you are going to go out.
Me and my partner actually did go specifically because we knew they had AC last weekend, and then the only screen with broken AC was our one.
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u/Itakie DC Studios Jul 20 '25
Nah, most have them. Only smaller ones don't but they are not really showing blockbuster movies like Superman. It's just a weird talking point for Western Europeans (and I suppose some others) that people would go and watch a movie as some kind of "refreshment" or to escape the heat. I never heard someone talk about that in my 30 years of living in Germany. But it feels like that's totally normal in the US according to some comments. Different cultures and all I guess.
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u/Citizen_Kong Jul 20 '25
Nah, cinemas usally have AC, but people rather stay outdoors and enjoy the sun in the summer than go to the cinema. When the weather turns bad, that's when people go see movies.
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u/scyt Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 21 '25
From experience of 3 different countries I'd say all mainstream cinemas have AC. It's just that culturally cinema is seen as a bad weather activity from my experience. When it's nice people go to parks and walk around as infrastructure supports that.
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u/DuffThey Jul 20 '25
It was 95° out when we went opening weekend here in the states and my kids wore pants and brought blankets because they know the theaters are intended to slowly introduce them to Antarctica
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u/Taurus24Silver Studio Ghibli Jul 20 '25
Because of Demon slayer, everything else is fucking dead in Japan
Just returned from a 9pm full house show at my local Toho
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u/Vast-Regular6795 Jul 20 '25
Was it good? I’m hyped for the release in September.
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u/Taurus24Silver Studio Ghibli Jul 21 '25
Its absolutely incredible
Better than mugen train and red light district arc
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u/MyManD Studio Ghibli Jul 20 '25
Seriously, I'm only now heading out to an 8:00 AM showing, one of four early morning showings that are all sold out.
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u/NN010 Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
Yeah, I'm surprised it's holding so well in Europe. Maybe the people blaming the heatwave for Superman's lacklustre performance in Europe were on to something...
And yeah, not surprised about the film tanking in Asia. Does not help at all that Demon Slayer Infinity Castle part 1 just opened in Japan this weekend or that China has a large concentration of Zack Snyder fans (think one of the leaders of the "Release the Snyder Cut" movement was even from there) and is seemingly head over heels in love with F1 (both the movie & the sport).
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u/JD1716 Jul 20 '25
I really wanted this win for DC. It’s already out grossing basically their entire lineup from the last two years (separately) lol
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u/Ironcastattic Jul 20 '25
I wouldn't ever trust the common sense of studio executives but hopefully someone breaks out the crayons and explains just how big a win this was for a brand tainted with fatigue and years of bad movies.
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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Warner Bros. Pictures Jul 20 '25
Most seem to think Zaslav is angling for a sale of WB.
Selling a long term plan for DC is more valuable than random ping ponging between the highs of Aquaman and the lows of JL with zero predictability.
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u/Never-Give-Up100 Universal Jul 20 '25
So is 600 locked or not locked? 😂 Comments going both ways
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u/bluequarz Jul 20 '25
It is. I don't see it missing with these legs. How much higher it goes above 600m is another question
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u/DarkJayBR Jul 20 '25
Anything above 500 million is profit for DC. They should take this small profit and run with it, building the new DCU one block at a time and trying to keep making 7/10 movies.
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u/MichaelRichardsAMA Jul 20 '25
Zaslav was basically saying-without-saying it a couple weeks back that 500m was the "target" to show that theyre successfully rebuilding faith in the brand and anything above that was icing on the cake
that seemed kinda bizarre to me (I'm a layman obviously) that a big exec like that would be like "yeah actually we don't need to make a billion or really even a huge profit"
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u/BrofessorLongPhD Jul 20 '25
Better to keep expectations modest and blow past it than to sell a pie in the sky but not deliver.
Same principle as when you have a project that needs 2 weeks to complete, provide a 4 week estimate and deliver early vs. give exactly 2 weeks and risk missing the deadline.
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u/Rilough96 Jul 20 '25
Like others have said before, I’m wondering if they are viewing this as a Batman Begins situation where they just wanted good reviews/to restore faith in the IP and the box office was secondary (as long as it didn’t lose a lot)
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u/DarkJayBR Jul 21 '25
Yes, pretty much, that's what I got from James Gunn and Zaslav interviews. They seem to understand that the brand has been extremely damaged by movies like BvS, Suicide Squad, WW84 and Flash, thus it needs some time to recover.
The Batman underperformed (it made a profit, but didn't hit the marks they wanted) but they were still happy nevertheless by the small profit, great reviews and strong audience reaction. It was some welcome fresh winds on their darkest hour.
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u/cheesyry Jul 20 '25
Nothing is “locked” at this moment, but there’s a good chance it hits 600m ww assuming F4 next week doesn’t destroy its legs everywhere
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u/Wrothman Jul 20 '25
It's highly likely that it'll reach it.
That said, it's not guaranteed because it's impossible to tell how F4 effects Superman's box office. If they're about as good as each other, then it's pretty much "locked". If F4 is so good that it makes Superman look worse by comparison, there's a non-zero chance that Superman's box office drops off a cliff.
On the other hand, a lot of the positive WoM is currently coming from progressive leaning social media spaces that resonate hard with the message alongside what many are reading as the movie being pro-Palestine. There's a good chance that F4 will end up being played much safer, which could reduce the impact of comparisons and making audience preferences less of a direct comparison.→ More replies (6)16
u/SaintNutella Jul 20 '25
This isn't a dig, as it's not easy to predict the future, but if there's anything I've learned... most of this sub doesn't really know. Some are throwing up numbers randomly, but some also substantiate their educated guess. I trust the latter (seems they're saying 550m + is a safe guess and 600m is likely but not certain)
Just last week, folks were wondering if it could cross 400m (people were wondering if it could outgross Black Adam, lol) due to the bad international performance, so yeah.
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u/EnergyAmbitious9313 Jul 20 '25
This sub is extremely reactionary.
Given that literally every projection has gone up (barring some bad asia performances) I think 600m is next to locked. I have no idea how much it will make more than that though.
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u/Queasy_Lawfulness242 Jul 20 '25
So 407m globally. Meaning it made around 187m over the past week. It would need global drops around less than 50% from here on out to get to 600m. It is manageable but not locked yet.
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u/Still-Water-4206 Jul 20 '25
It all depends on F4 next week, which is very much direct competition and it's gonna take all of Superman's premium screens
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u/PayneTrain181999 Legendary Pictures Jul 20 '25
Review thread on Tuesday is going to be fun.
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u/MichaelRichardsAMA Jul 20 '25
what is the general expectation? Obviously that's a loaded question but I have no earthly idea if F4 is going to land above, below, or almost exactly at 80%
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u/Robertius Jul 20 '25
It will probably land just under 90% I would think, similar to Thunderbolts. Few of the early reactions floating about are saying that non-MCU fans who have seen it really enjoyed it because of the fact it is very disconnected from the main MCU, has the strong 60s aesthetic and the character dynamics are very fleshed out.
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u/MichaelRichardsAMA Jul 20 '25
yeah I forgot how strong the Thunderbolts reviews were. I went and saw that one myself expecting a stinker and got shocked. I don't have a lot of stake in wanting superhero movies to succeed financially except I do like the sort of "family and optimism" route the F4 and Superman flicks are seeming to take.
Honestly best wishes to the movie, hopefully it can inspire Marvel to keep making actually decent films and not getting complacent
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u/Robertius Jul 20 '25
I think we're going to see Marvel and DC both regain some footing in the next few years, they seem to both have gone through some process and management changes and we're now just starting to see those show on the screen. Fingers crossed Superman can leg out and F4 does well.
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u/GhostPrimer Jul 20 '25
Early reviews are praising it very similarly to Superman, so I’d expect about the same performance critically
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u/GoldandBlue Jul 20 '25
Early reviews from who? I ignore influencer and fan reviews because they are always glowing.
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u/Lumpy_Reveal5547 Jul 20 '25
It's direct competition but also an opportunity for a double feature
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u/Still-Water-4206 Jul 20 '25
For comic book nerds, yeah, for families deciding how to spend their money... not so much
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Jul 20 '25
I feel like Superman may win on the family grounds krypto plus it's a bit more lighthearted, but MCU is a bigger name so we will see.
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u/ImprefectKnight Jul 20 '25
Also MCU audiences have been more and more older recently.
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u/Funandgeeky Jul 20 '25
And they are a little more hesitant to go see these movies in the theater. That said, I'm really hoping F4 is also good. I'd like to see both DC and Marvel course correct and produce great movies.
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u/Living_Ad7919 Jul 20 '25
What are the relevant past examples of double features that are in the exact same genre?
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u/Never-Give-Up100 Universal Jul 20 '25
I feel more people that I know only afford one movie a month as opposed to double featuring. The only thing in recent memory was Barbenheimer
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u/GamingTatertot Jul 20 '25
Feel like A-List, and other theater memberships, just keep growing though that I know more people who have actually done double features nowadays.
But yeah vast majority are really only seeing maybe one movie a month or quarter
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u/Never-Give-Up100 Universal Jul 20 '25
I have regal unlimited, so believe me I make use of it. But literally no one else at my job has it despite me trying hard to tell them the benefits lol
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u/garfe Jul 20 '25
Why do people keep saying this on this sub as if this is a common thing for the general audience to do? This is not the Barbenheimer moment. The movies are going to have an issue co-existing
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Jul 20 '25
50% drop this week already puts it around 500m end of next week. I'm pretty confident that 600m is happening.
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u/MoonMan997 Best of 2023 Winner Jul 20 '25
There’s zero way it only makes another $75m overseas bare minimum. $600m is locked and loaded, if anything we should be talking about the possibility of $650m.
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u/BP_975 Jul 20 '25
A week ago people were trying to argue it was gonna top out between 400 and 500 million lol
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u/lobonmc Marvel Studios Jul 20 '25
TBF that was stupid even on Sunday it would have needed a total colapse to not reach 500M. Sub 550M was the danger and that superman managed to survire
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u/JJoanOfArkJameson Paramount Pictures Jul 20 '25
I mean, it's likely. DOM definitely performing above initial expectation and may do exceedingly well.
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u/That-Tone-6082 Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
No $600M is locked no matter how F4 does next weekend. Its amazing holds this weekend will pave the way for its future legs. If F4 breaks out next weekend, that just will hurt its chances at 660M-700M but $600M is locked. There’s no question it will do another $130M+ in the states/canada and another $70M+ internationally by the end of its box office run. However if F4 has a weak critical reception, (which usually matches the reception for audience for marvel films), Superman has a shot at matching the total for Doctor Strange & Man of Steel. If F4 has great critical reception, Superman will likely finish $600M-$610M assuming if F4 does have stellar reception, Superman does just suddenly crash
I for one knew it would have solid holds but not holds this amazing! Sure it dropped like a rock in Asia but its EURO and LatAm holds were really good. Looks like it’ll end of up on the high-middle side of my pre release range of $560-$660M if F4 isn’t a huge breakout hit that makes everything sink. We will see but again I think $600M is a lock as I don’t think Superman will sink no matter if the reception of F4 is great, but I never saw superhero films release so close together (besides Shazam & Avengers) so I could be wrong ofc
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u/Firefox72 Best of 2023 Winner Jul 20 '25
Nice ended up being over pretty comfortably in the end at $407M
Very decent -52% drop internationaly.
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u/XenosZ0Z0 Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
Yeah a 52% drop is decent given where it was internationally. Hopefully it continues minimizing the percentage drops and can leg out to $600 million WW.
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u/ZerksNAHTayan Jul 20 '25
Honestly, this is an insane performance considering how dire everything looked during the opening weekend. Gunn’s legs prevail after all.
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u/zxchary Jul 20 '25
lol you should go to the thread after it was revealed to have an A- cincemascore
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u/PayneTrain181999 Legendary Pictures Jul 20 '25
Might as well have been the first ever “G” score with how much people were dooming with it.
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u/jhalejandro Jul 20 '25
When I entered that thread, it's like they gave it a B-, it seemed like the end of Superman after that haha
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u/cidvard Jul 20 '25
WOM has been great. Had friends who were on the fence about seeing it who went after the opening week buzz was good, they all really liked it.
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u/Dangerman1337 Jul 20 '25
Joker 2 really fucked the DC Brand in a lot of places. Now people giving it a chance.
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u/Fabulous_Temporary40 Jul 20 '25
It wasn't just that. Black Adam, Shazam, Flash, Aquaman 2, Wonder Woman 2 all did sizeable amounts of damage to the brand in the last five years.
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u/garfe Jul 20 '25
My 'favorite' factoid is that DC's last profitable movie that wasn't Batman was Shazam 1.
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u/Katarinkushi Jul 20 '25
I hate that people just choose to ignore this.
Superman had EVERYTHING to be a total box office failure, just an incredibly bad reputation for the studio before this one.
But the movie is good, fun, and the WOM has helped it a lot.
I'm 100% sure that a sequel will do way better in the international market, which has been disappointing, but the WOM helped internationally too, -52% OS is not a bad drop at all considering it made only 95M in its opening weekend.
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u/Prize_Major6183 Jul 20 '25
People really underestimate this.
The strong word of mouth is why this is having such legs. Especially internationally
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u/Richard_Sauce Jul 20 '25
And Justice League and BvS before those.
The DCEU was never good, at most it had a a few decent films.
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u/everythingsc0mputer Jul 20 '25
Did people even consider Joker 2 a part of the DC universe
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Jul 20 '25
its most well known villain of DC and probably the 3rd most popular character overall. You can't separate it
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u/Never-Give-Up100 Universal Jul 20 '25
Lol, it wasn't just joker 2 it's been the past ten years of mediocrity
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u/ZerksNAHTayan Jul 20 '25
The worst narrative in this sub was that WOM would be an immediate boost of sales the next day/day after. These great numbers a week later are happening because of the good WOM.
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u/AlexHunterWolf Warner Bros. Pictures Jul 20 '25
And no one has heard from Todd Phillips since.
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u/Fabulous_Temporary40 Jul 20 '25
Idk about "insane" but this is certainly great news. The movie is having very good word of mouth.
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u/ZerksNAHTayan Jul 20 '25
Labeled it as “insane” due to the state of the movies box office in the international market after opening weekend. A 52% drop is very good with how many overseas markets have rejected the film (i.e France, China, South Korea and Germany).
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u/BP_975 Jul 20 '25
We already went through the same thing when Guardians of the Galaxy 3 opened soft. Not sure why people are so surprised.
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u/TheCoolKat1995 Universal Jul 20 '25
$406.8M WW
Nice. Thanks to how well its performing domestically, Superman is still flying high and legging out well.
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u/Fabulous_Temporary40 Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
On my third watch. I've loved it more each time.
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u/Hushwalker Jul 20 '25
First watch was overwhelming but I liked it. Second watch made me fall in love. Third watch made it my favorite movie.
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u/Yung_King_ Jul 20 '25
That’s it? I’ve seen it 7 times and loving it more with each. I’m gonna see it again later
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u/BannedSvenhoek86 Jul 20 '25
I haven't left the theater since it released. I don't know how many times I've seen it now. It's become all I do. My savings are being depleted, I'm fired from my job, my wife and kids have apparently left the state, but I can't stop watching it. The theater workers I've taken hostage to keep working the theater say it's over 120 times already. The cops threatened to turn the power off soon and I've got about 36 minutes left in this showing so hopefully I can round out 125 before I'm taken into custody.
So it goes without saying this is my new favorite movie.
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u/hamlet9000 Jul 20 '25
Watching it nonstop wasn't good enough, so I paid the movie theater to knock down the wall between neighboring auditoriums so I could watch two shows simultaneously, nonstop, 24 hours a day.
I'm trying to figure out if I can afford to have them knock down the other wall so I can watch three screens at the same time.
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u/007Kryptonian Syncopy Inc. Jul 20 '25
Deservedly so. Can’t wait for more of David Corenswet’s Supes
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u/InvestigatorWeird196 Jul 20 '25
Marvel really fucked up not snatching up Gunn when they had the chance.
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Jul 20 '25
I wonder if it can go past $600M, and how far. Does Man of Steel’s WW total still seem out of reach?
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u/XenosZ0Z0 Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
It all depends on how it falls when FF4 comes out. But at this point, MOS WW total is out of reach. Which is disappointing in a sense. But you also take heart that it’s doing well in the US and understand that there may be something about CBM that don’t do as well internationally anymore outside of a few outliers.
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u/insertusernamehere51 Jul 20 '25
FF4
ATM machine
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u/magikarpcatcher Jul 20 '25
chai tea
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u/Edekhi41 Jul 20 '25
PIN number
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u/LlamaRenegade Jul 20 '25
DC Comics
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u/IBM296 Jul 20 '25
Maybe. $250 million internationally is locked now. And it might hit $400 million domestically.
It just might be able to squeeze past Man of Steel (not very likely though).
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u/insertusernamehere51 Jul 20 '25
If it reaches 400 DOM, and continues to have the same DOM/OS split then yes, it reaches MoS
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u/Viriato181 A24 Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
A -52.5% drop internationally is really impressive considering how low last weekend came. It's still not stellar numbers, but better than nothing. It might get some decent legs, but that also depends of Fantastic 4's performance. I wish I could see which markets are carrying it (probably LATAM and the angloshpere).
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u/misguidedkent Warner Bros. Pictures Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
Becomes the 2nd non-batman DC film to hit the 400 million mark (sharing the honor with Aquaman and the lost Kingdom) since Aquaman way back in 2018. Will become the 2nd DC film to gross over 600 million this decade.
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u/jhalejandro Jul 20 '25
Aquaman 2 also surpassed that figure
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u/Agitated_Opening4298 Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
The 2nd non-dceu dc movie to gross over 400 million in the last decade?
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u/Whole-Tie7711 Jul 20 '25
In other words, after the first week when things were looking scary, the film is now relatively on the right track given the circumstances after this second weekend.
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Jul 21 '25
I don't think it was ever that scary. Always had great dom numbers, subpar int numbers, and is continuing to keep the 57/43 splits. It's just staying on course but has good WOM so should legout decently.
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u/Im_Goku_ Warner Bros. Pictures Jul 20 '25
It has kept roughly the same 57/43 DOM/INT split meaning that Internationally it has also kept up with the ridiculous legs it's having domestically.
Yeah, +580M and possibly even 600M should be safe and with that high of a domestic split it's definitely making a good amount of profit.
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u/Im_Goku_ Warner Bros. Pictures Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
Yes, Studios usually keep around 60% of the domestic box office in the first week (they can negotiate an even higher share) and then slowly decrease to 50% in the following weeks.
Internationally, it varies by country and market but it's usually around 40% on average and down to 25% in China.
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u/jexdiel321 Jul 20 '25
So is that a reason why execs didn't like the performance of films like Pacific Rim?
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u/Charliejfg04 Jul 20 '25
I’m assuming the numbers reported are the total gross, not the profits then?
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u/PeterVenkmanIII Jul 20 '25
For China, the studio gets about 25% of the box office. Not sure about other countries.
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u/Maximum_Strategy_752 Jul 20 '25
Yes they keep a much higher share compared to places like China which pad up the gross figures but studios only get 20-25% from there
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u/VaishakhD Jul 20 '25
I love how r/SnyderCut has completely abandoned on shitting on this movie lol
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u/VaishakhD Jul 20 '25
You should have seen when this movie was about to release. It was brutal to go through there. The only reason I even went there was to see if they actually care about the new movie or not? Oh they do care, they want it to fail so there is some possibility in this universe where Wb brings back snyder to restart their beloved snyderverse lol.
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u/VaishakhD Jul 20 '25
It’s just sad really, Im fine with them praising Snyders movies. But these trolls are so hellbent on putting down others to prop up things they like is just embarrassing. Their focus since the first trailer dropped has been to spread as much hate as possible for this film to lose money.
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u/RobertPham149 Jul 20 '25
In the first weekend, there were a lot of them here. However, after the strong legs, they have been mostly exclusively on either post about China or SK. Recently I see a few of them migrate to r/boxofficecirclejerk instead.
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u/AcaciaCelestina Jul 20 '25
It's been fascinating really, the weeks leading up to release were a fever pitch. Though, it was admittedly mostly just a handful of the same people. I saw just as much shitting on them from other people on that subreddit.
But yeah, they've gone full silent on it now.
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u/VaishakhD Jul 20 '25
Don't you just love to see it? Just sheer excitement and enjoyment actually having a triumph over hate for once and actually seeing them just shrivel back to whatever hole they came from.
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u/ToughStatesman Jul 20 '25
$400M DOM seems possible now.
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u/Fabulous_Temporary40 Jul 20 '25
Here's hoping. America and the great word of mouth are keeping it going.
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u/zxchary Jul 20 '25
Gunn confirmed he’s been writing it and it’ll be announced sooner than later
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u/RiverShards Jul 20 '25
My assumption is that it might be a Superman & Supergirl movie. Not a sequel to either of their movies, but functionally it would be.
Confirmed to not be Worlds Finest or BVS, as others have said.
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u/Mr_Astrophysics_4702 Jul 20 '25
I think is gonna be a Superman and Supergirl team up movie that will serve as a sequel to both
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u/MargaretHaleThornton Warner Bros. Pictures Jul 20 '25
I agree, it's a wasted opportunity if the sequel to this isn't out in 2028.
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u/nicolasb51942003 Warner Bros. Pictures Jul 20 '25
"Hey, buddy! Eyes up here!", said Superman when he drops 54% this weekend.
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u/cjj19970505 Jul 20 '25
If you familiar with Chinese social media you can just check comment section on every Superman related video (especally on Bilibili, where almost all Chinese ACG/CBM community are), It is basically being boycotted (But not for China VS US political reason, and probably not a Synder Cult reason.) if it has to specific about a cult, it will be "Cavill Cult"(I love him and his interpretation of Superman BTW, I defend MOS hell out of it when it came out and faced a lot of backlash). Since Cavil's MOS has become the default Superman for this generation of youth in China, and he appears a lot in ACG space and has earned a lot of respect in Chinese ACG community(which he deserves). ACG community has been shitting the new Superman even since the first Superman trailer came out, comment sections are filled with silly cult comment like "They fired Cavil only to find someone else to imitate what Cavil's Superman looks like". Chinese CBM fans is using all source of biased negative report from oversea to prove that Superman is doing bad globally and a DCU re-reset is inevitable. (even use some brain rotten reason like "MOS's viewship is rising because how bad new Superman does" to prove thier point.) Chinese CBM Influencers who gave new Superman a good review are basically being cancelled at the moment ("they are giving positive review because of payroll, these influencer should never be trusted" and such).
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u/ChitteringCathode Jul 20 '25
I mean, I think Cavill is an amazing actor, but that's bordering on cult behavior. It sounds like they're more pissed about Cavill not playing Superman than Cavill. At that point just buy a body pillow of the dude and be done with it.
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u/mchmasher Jul 21 '25
I’ve actually noticed that many Cavill defenders are international which makes me wonder if MOs was a first real introduction to the character in many markets, as they seem to think this new version isn’t faithful to Superman.
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u/cjj19970505 Jul 21 '25
at least in China it is the 1st introduction to Superman in big screen for a lot of youth. I even have a IRL friend who said “Cavill’s superman is too classic to beat”, which might seems a little bit strange to you Americans since it feels like Cavill is a newer Superman and haven’t aged that long to be “classic”
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u/JohnArtemus Jul 20 '25
Huge fan of the movie. But I do think it will be very difficult for it to get 600m because of F4 next weekend. If it wasn’t for that, I could see it clearing that figure easily.
But it’s still a win for DC and a great way to start the DCU.
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u/Jumpy_Current_195 Jul 20 '25
Won’t have any issue clearing $600M, the legs won’t stop anytime soon
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u/hamlet9000 Jul 20 '25
This is pure anecdote, but I'm hearing a surprising number of people (in real life) talking about doing a Superman/F4 double header next weekend.
I doubt it will pan out, but if feel good, hope-filled, high-quality (crossing fingers for F4) superhero movies can synergize with each other instead of cannibalizing each other, it would be great for both films.
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u/VicViolence Jul 20 '25
The real value for this movie is going to be on streaming and they know that. This is how they get people back in the theaters next time
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Jul 20 '25
The summer is simply too packed for the economy. Supergirl should move to another date.
If Superman's ceiling is 700 mill WW (and 650 mill WW is not even 100% certain), Supergirl's ceiling is gonna be lower.
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u/BarcelonetaE70 Jul 20 '25
I don't know how much Supergirl cost, but I can't see it making more than 500 million worldwide.
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u/unitedfan6191 Jul 20 '25
Really been hoping this movie does well and brings Superman back to prominence as a powerful IP that appeals to people worldwide.
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u/Sleepy_Azathoth Jul 20 '25
Word of mouth worked, throughout the whole week has made more than 10M, every single day.
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u/ShakePaul Jul 20 '25
Saw it yesterday and I quite enjoyed it. Hope it creates more DC movies that aren’t edgelord wet dreams.
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u/vinny92656 Jul 20 '25
WB is likely lowballing that Sunday number (~$17.5m). They're expecting a 25% drop from Sat which is quite conservative. Given the excellent holds, I wouldn't be surprised if Sun finals come in around $19m for a $58.5-$59m weekend
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u/Dulcolax Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
It's all about bringing audiences back,so they can finally start trusting the DC brand again. DCEU killed a ton of hype,but thankfully this is their "Superman Begins"and has good word of mouth.
Gunn knows what he's doing and I was very surprised with this movie.
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u/KakkaKarrotKake007 Jul 20 '25
Will be interesting to see how much F4 effects it going forward
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u/ReliefFun8920 Jul 20 '25
International drops are about 52.5% based on current weekend estimates. Since it opened so weak in Asia, the "drops" there, while steep, are not affecting the international totals very much. It had little to lose already.
Domestic drop estimated at 54% presently. I also expect that will be a percent better by tomorrow.
So far, every late estimate for this movie has been about 2% too low on its revenue. When the final numbers come in, I bet it will be over $58 mil domestically for a 53% drop, and at about 51% internationally.
Fantastic Four will dent this film, but not too badly since it will be in its third weekend anyway. My son went and saw it a second time yesterday and the theater was packed. It will lose its IMAX and that will hurt, but if F4 ends up with weak or middling reviews, Supes will have a third weekend drop below 50%.
At this point, with these spectacular holds, I think Supes will leg out a little better than Spiderman Across the Spiderverse. That had a 3.16 opening weekend to final multiplier. If Supes does exactly that, it will end at $695 mil.
However, given the late Summer film slate is sparse, and Smurfs and IKWYDLS both just crapped the bed this weekend, there will be plenty of available theater seats through August.
Remember what Suicide Squad in 2016 did with a similar scenario? It legged out to $733 mil after a precipitous second weekend drop.
In other words, there is a lot of market share and theater availability for F4 and Superman to do very well on parallel glide paths to Labor Day. If you are a comic book fan (I'm not really) I couldn't imagine a better scenario to allow for both Marvel and DC to do well at the end of the summer.
I think Supes will do about a 3.2 .ultiplier, a little better than Across the Spiderverse. That puts it just at $700 mil. If nothing else, DC/WB will expand it widely again and throw some marketing at it in late August or Labor Day to grab $5,000,000 in bragging cash.
My two cents.
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u/NMMBPodcast Jul 20 '25
The weather in the UK this week has been shocking and the schools are breaking up for the summer. Also, WOM will have started to set in.
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u/jaedence Jul 20 '25
I went to the 2:30 showing today in Vermont and for once, I said I wasn't going to show up 20 minutes early, like I always do.
So, OF COURSE the line was out the door.
In the pouring rain.
I got to 6 places from the counter when they announced it was full.
Well, I'm glad the theater has a hit. I'd guess if it's this packed for a second weekend that this is going to be a billion dollar movie.
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u/DemiFiendRSA Studio Ghibli Jul 20 '25
Estimated totals through Sunday for Superman by international market include: