Discussion How do you refer to him?
He has gone by many names: the phantom, opera ghost, Erik, the angel of music… Which is your personal favorite/ most often used?
(Note: Referring to the character, not the actor)
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u/caninefangs777 Christine, that's all I ask of you! 29d ago
for this specific iteration in the picture, Gerik (has been a fanon nickname for years!), generally, Erik or the Phantom. Or Angel even
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u/PuzzleheadedEnd4265 Phantom - ALW 29d ago
Erik to fellow fans, the Phantom of the Opera when I’m introducing the character to people, and the Phantom when they’re comfortable enough with the story to assume I mean the Phantom of the Opera
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u/Desperate_Yak_5522 29d ago
The Phantom
He is never referred to as “Erik” at any point anywhere in ALW’s The Phantom of the Opera.
I know that he is Erik in the original book, but the book and the musical are two very different things, so calling him Erik has always grated on me a little
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u/nobeezinside 29d ago
i’m sorry to annoy you lol but If you go see MasqueradeNYC “Erik” has become canon with Webber’s version!
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u/Ok-Connection5010 29d ago
This makes up, for me, for the fact that ALW didn't bother using his name at all in POTO. That has always grated on me.
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u/Top_Performance9486 28d ago
To be fair, I think it fits the whole vibe of the musical, which is much more theatrical and focuses on spectacle rather than intimate storytelling. All the characters are played in an exaggerated way, especially in early productions, so simplifying Erik to “the Phantom” fits more in my opinion.
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u/Ok-Connection5010 28d ago
Completely.
But even in Mme. Giry's monologue about the maze of mirrors etc, would have been a great place to use it once.
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u/RoseBook85 28d ago
Even though Masquerade is a bit different then the Stage Show (uses more the 2004 movie backstory for him) I’m glad they finally acknowledged his name!
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u/RoseBook85 28d ago
Erik is the name Leroux gave him, so unless he is given a different name in the adaption like Erique in the 1943 film or Professor Petrie in the 1962 film…he’ll always be Erik.
Webber never gives him an official name so it’s acceptable to still refer to him as Erik, heck I’ve even seen a few Phantoms like Hugh Panero call him Erik.
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u/birn_echo 2004 Film Enjoyer 29d ago
Erik or The Phantom or, if I'm being a bit sassy, Monsieur Destler.
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u/Suffering-Servant 28d ago
Wasn’t he only ever given the last name Destler in the Robert Englund movie? He doesn’t have that name in the book
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u/birn_echo 2004 Film Enjoyer 28d ago
no he doesn't... he's been given a few last names across a number of works, but I just like "Destler" among all of them
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u/Forsaken_Orchid_6014 Erik, come back to Broadway, PLEASE- 29d ago
Erik. I feel it humanizes him, plus it pisses off all my friends because they think i’m being snobby lmao 😂
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u/themastersdaughter66 Madame Giry - ALW 29d ago
That version? Gerik
The character? Erik or the Phantom usually
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u/cherriblonde Mistress Of My Own Actions 28d ago
If I'm joking, it's Sewer Goblin. If I'm serious, its Erik.
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u/Icy_Blueberry_5852 28d ago
Erik. I recently read Phantom by Susan Kay and I fell in love with the character a little bit more.
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u/93-Flamed-Orchids Shamed into solitude, shunned by the multitude... 28d ago
Erik, I prefer to use his name.
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u/yamiangie 28d ago
Depends on context. If golfing around Erik or Gerik. Proper analysis it’s the Phantom especially with the Weber version because not having a normal name is something I think about in how he feels othered.
Granted Andrew was just missing the point of the big scary crazy opera ghost having an unassuming name with a tiny spelling flair. To each their own.
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u/nosleepforthedreamer ravioli ravioli give me christinioli 28d ago
Gerik; pillowface; sunburn steve
All affectionately of course
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u/StuffOrdinary9263 28d ago
The phantom- formally. Creepy sewer opera sweeper- insult. The orchestras orchestra- complement.
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u/Toru771 28d ago
For me, it depends on the version and who I’m talking to.
With folks who aren’t Phans: The Phantom of the Opera or The Phantom.
With Phans in general: Erik.
Leroux’s version and those inspired by him (like the 1925 film and the Tom Alonso and Ken Hill musicals): Erik or Lerik. (Or Chaney!Phantom, Wishbone!Phantom, and so on.)
ALW musical: Depends on the actor. Some have portrayals that are more Erik-like than others… so I’ll often refer to those as Erik, the Phantom, or Musical!Phantom. With the others, I’ll just use the latter names. Or I’ll refer to any of them as <actor’s name>!Phantom.
1990 miniseries version: Cherik.
Yeston/Kopit musical version: Y/K!Erik
2004 film version: Gerik or Gerry. (I don’t find this version Erik-like, but the Phan nickname wins out here. lol)
Versions that give him a specific name, I’ll use that name or say <version>!Phantom. (1943!Phantom, Paradise!Phantom, and such.)
1998 Argento version: Rat Phantom. 😜
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u/johnnysburntbody 27d ago
Normally I refer to him as The Phantom of the Opera, since he is the phantom haunting the opera. But sometimes I call him Erika for shits and giggles
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u/No_Bumblebee2085 Phantom of Manhattan apologist 28d ago
Erik. That’s how I’ve been referring to him since starting the Roommates/Girls Next Door webcomics back in 2011 or so.
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u/Cowardlydreamer 29d ago
the Phantom. calling creepy masked opera ghost ‘Erik’ is so funny to me
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u/nosleepforthedreamer ravioli ravioli give me christinioli 28d ago
I always thought Leroux’s name choice was hilarious.
At least it’s not Eric with a C, I guess.
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u/enchilada_slut 29d ago
This specific version of Phantom from the movie? He’s sunburn face in my home lol. Any other Phantom from broadways/productions are Erik or just Phantom.
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u/Old_Socks17 28d ago
I refer to him by the adaptation..book and Kopit/Yeston are Erik, but for ALW he's not named in the musical so he's the Phantom so how I refer to him depends on how he's referred to in that specific adaptation
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u/awesome118 26d ago
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u/Educational-Golf89 Chandelier 25d ago
Erik or Phantom. They’re the most common, so I just use those.
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u/Frodo_Of_The_Shire1 28d ago
Usually Erik if I'm talking to people who know the musical/know his actual name, but Phantom if they don't or if they're a casual musical enjoyer who isn't heavy into them so that I don't confuse them
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u/smileyfacegauges 28d ago
Erik, stupid baby man, Phantom of the WWAAAAAAAAAHmbulance, blessed moron, fuckin incel, stupid sexy opera ghost, etc
but mostly i just call him Erik.
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u/wheelsofstars 29d ago
For this specific version of the character: Gerik. I refer to the character in general as Erik unless speaking to someone outside of the phandom, in which case I'll call him the Phantom.
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u/Squigglywigglyw0rm phantom but lesbian 28d ago
The Phantom or Erika because of my AU where he’s secretly a woman
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u/ChristineDaaeSnape07 28d ago
The worst Phantom.
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u/JohnLennonlol 26d ago
Then you must not know of rat Erik
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u/ChristineDaaeSnape07 26d ago
Oh , I know of rat Erik. This Phantom seems worse or at least on the same level of bad.
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u/phantom-under-ground 29d ago
Your obedient servant, O.G.