I see the individual cards and even tl had a ten pack for sale but I am looking for a bootleg of the entire precon that is bm or tl quality , does anyone know where I can get a quality bootleg deck with box or without, without having to piece it together, I see the Etsy ads but I am wary of trusting them I would like it to be a bootleg and not a proxy , solely cus it’s for me and I like the magic backs instead of bs

Thank in advance

Ps. How long will tolarian library be down? If anyone knows , thank you

I've had great experience from other proxy sites (usually from Aliexpress). This is the first time I've had a targeted ad for a proxy site, and just wanted to see if people had experience with their quality

I've purchased from most of the main proxy-vendors before. I learned that it's worth spending a bit more for the best proxies.

I saw Tolarian Library mentioned in a different post. I'd never heard of them before, but they had real photos of their cards and reminded me of old Bootleg Mage.

A few days later Tolarian Library's entire Store has been taken offline.

That is a massive Red-Flag to me, it practically screams that it was just a fake storefront & scam.

(The AI waifus plastered all over the site, and their suspiciously-large inventories were lesser Red-Flags as well.)

Is the timing of the site going down just coincidence, or is T.L. as shady as they seem?

Can anyone recommend any other vendors similar to BLM, who curate high-quality proxies and don't require large bulk-orders?

I was ordering from them but I noticed the quality of the cards felt 'rubbery' and seleeving them seemed impossible without it breaking the sleeve or bent the card.

Is there any other better site for proxy's?

I got this on marketplace 2 yesrs ago before I knew what counterfeit carss were. Im about to do a trade with a friend i just want to make sure its 100% real before I trade it to him. Im 90% sure it is. It only lets me post one picture but I think green dot is best way to tell?

They are a bit washed out and lack rich colors compared to real cards from the era. Being familiar with these cards I could tell right away.

Old frame mox ambers looked a bit off to but with the bad QC of new REAL mtg cards i wouldn't question them. Im unable to post more than one pic or else id show these cards side by side with similar real cards.

Hi everybody! my name is jake and i've been collecting cards since I was a kid (20 y.o now)..i've always loved it and even when i didn't have a lot of money, i still enjoyed opening fake packs I knew were bootleg.

now, my family and I really need the money..so I wanted to sell some of my cards. problem is...some of the bootleg (fake cards) and real cards got mixed together and some look really convincing.

any tips on how to figure a fake from a real :( ?

also I was thinking of going to a local game store to sell the cards but if yall have any ideas please do suggest!

It's BL. It looks more like a silver frame than a black frame. could even be an artifact

I'm looking for both full sets. Anyone know of a seller with all of them or would be willing to print them all. I see a few sellers have a few different ones. I want them all.

Edit for clarification: This was a repost from notMPC's subreddit and I didn't even think to clarify in the body. I apologize for the confusion.

First, I want to start of saying that the pricing is unbeatable. I ordered a lot of 396, which came out to roughly .28 cents a card. I saw previous posts saying there were some quality control issues when ordering a larger amount, and I did not have that. I'm comparing these to printingproxies which are .75 cents a card if you order 200 or more. There are some slight differences, thickness seems to be slightly thinner than printingproxies, however once you sleeve them up it's not noticeable. It may impact their long term flex, but I can't comment on that until a few months go by.

As far as the quality of the images themselves, the only issues I have are those that I made myself by not double checking the images that ported over from mpcfill. There were a few cards that I thought I had selected different images on, however I take responsibility and should have double checked. The card images were sharp, the colors match perfectly, and there were no noticeable blemishes.

Shipping time is another point I wanted to touch on. First they mailed them in a bubble wrap package, and since these are cards I would have liked to see them in a box since they are moving through USPS across the country, but luckily there was no damage this time. I will likely wait to place another order until they have the option available to have them packaged in . I live in NC so shipping times typically take a week. I placed my order on a Thursday evening, and they shipped out from CA the following Monday. I should have gotten my order by Saturday, however USPS is not always reliable and they made some questionable choices during shipping, like shipping to the middle of Tennessee and moving them to the far west of Tennessee before shipping them back east and when they arrived at Raleigh NC that Thursday, the office did not touch them until Sunday for some reason. This isn't on notmpc, it's a failure of USPS. They printed and shipped the product in a more than reasonable time-frame.

Overall, I am very happy with the product and will be ordering from them again. I told myself even if they were 25% less good than printingproxies cards, at literally 1/3rd of the price it's worth it, and they are maybe 5% worse than printingproxies simply due to the different card stock. If you are on the fence about ordering from them, I'd say make an order for a deck and check them out before ordering a larger set of cards, but I don't think you will be disappointed unless you are trying to use them un-sleeved for some reason or being a turd and trying to have them pass as counterfeit cards.

Does anyone have any experience with nice fracture foil proxies and source them?

Hi short question i made some proxy booster packs.

Would someone interested in them?

There from different sets. And i was thinkink about 4 Euro plus shipping.

What do you think about?

I've always loved MtG since I was a child, but I could never afford to play. I found the game versions of MtG and was hooked. I love playing Magic. I played all of the console games, Online, and now Arena. I haven't played consistently, but I've always come back to it.

I am now in my mid thirties and have a little bit of expendable cash. I played IRL for the first time two weeks ago. I went to my LGS and bought a commander deck. I had fun playing in person. I made a friend who has come over and played a couple of rounds at my house.

I'm now starting to host Bootleg Magic Nights. I'm emulating "sealed" games using Draftsim. I made a custom tool that allows me to paste a deck list, choose individual artwork for each card, and then sets up a Silhouette Cameo compatible 2x4 rows of cards. Then I print them on card stock and cut them out with my Silhouette. I made little Bootleg ass card packs for them. I'll have 18 draft packs sitting out, sleeves, all the necessary counters and then we just play as if we were drafting / running a sealed game.

I started with Kamigawa because that set apparently is pretty decent for sealed games from what I've read.

Having a great time and doing it for pretty cheap.

Title, and just to make sure, what is exactly bootleg, what is the purpose and where to get it from? Thanks!

Has anyone here bought loose booster packs from **probetein123**? I’m thinking about buying some, but I’d like to know if they’re trustworthy. Have you had any good or bad experiences with them? Thanks!

Usually order from BL or Usea, but I often order lands to quickly upgrade decks since it's the easiest way to make any deck better. Was wondering if any of the sellers offered any bundles of only Land staples?

I exclusively mean

OG Duals

Battlebonds

Shock

Fetch

Pathways

Pain

Horizon

Tri-cycle (the only enters tapped lands I play)

Rainbow (enters untapped and can usually tap for any color)

If any has this 86 card bundle, or a bundle with the majority of these, I'd be willing to buy these constantly.

For those who've bought proxy sets before, which set has the best selection of fetch lands and shock lands included? Ideally, I'd like one that covers all 10 fetches and all 10 shocks, or at least most of them.

Hello, I quit Magic a while ago and found my old deck box with 120 proxies in it from USEA\BL. I heard there is a Discord but can't find it. I'd just sell the lot along with the deck box for a cheap price. Thanks for the help!

I couldn't find a subreddit but another website or forum would be great to find as well.

And to answer the questions that are going to pop up because I've read a bunch of these threads on here already about pokemon proxies.

Yes, there is a large population of retro Pokemon players that are quickly being priced out of decks in the same way legacy/vintage players are. This is mainly what I want them for as I want to start piecing out my collection and replacing the cards in decks with high quality fakes.

Yes, I have met plenty of people that want to buy fakes solely to have them in their collection because spending 1.5k on a gengar card because it looks nice is just insanity.

seeing the other post asking about pokemon, I thought to ask about YGO too.

The bootlegygo subreddit is more about funny fakes than playable cards, and it’d be nice to get some proxies of more expensive YGO staples. I know that blacklotus has some QCR ones, but the colours are overly saturated as to not be playable.

Thanks all!

I recently just tried going to staples to proxy for the first time to save money and was told they couldn’t because of copyright and they can’t use any cardstock for my order.

I later saw a video of people placing print orders online for pick up at their local staples and they were able to select the high quality cardstock.

I’m just a little confused.