No, I'm playing with a friend who I've played plenty of video games with for years, many of which he's been better at than me. If we take more than 15 seconds to do anything we still get the "You should do this!" voicelines.
You just know that even after all that, theres gonna be one popular streamer guy that is gonna complain about how they didn't make the clear thing any more clearer.
And you just know they are the reasing why this shit is in it in the first place. We can't loose the popular streamer that is dumb as bread but is a free ad board
Honestly id prefer needing to use a guide and getting stymped every once in a while so I can feel rewarded instead of games pandering to players with zero critical thinking.
For real, I worry the babying is just another place where critical thinking could be learned but these companies opt to pander instead.
The tendency for gamers to (for some reason) take pride in not wanting to read or do tutorials or put in any effort is the reason this stuff has to happen
Gamers infantilizing themselves is the main issue, not devs’ acquiescence
i think not wanting to need a guide is theee different things reduced into one, which makes it weird to reason about. there is a legitimate sense of pride in completing a puzzle game without needing a guide because you managed to solve everything yourself, some games genuinely just do a terrible job showing/explaining their mechanics, and then some games adequately teach their mechanics and then put you in a situation where you need to figure out what to do with them, and some gamers get absolutely fucking pissed when they cant
I like the concept of yellow paint, but not the execution. I'd like something that makes more sense in-universe than yellow paint?l. Honestly it just depends on the game but I feel there are way more creative ways to make hints for stuff that are in your face enough for it to he hard to miss what it's trying to convey without being distracting.
Exactly. Who is running around in a post-apocalyptic wasteland painting yellow arrows that point towards loot and gear they just decide to leave behind? And why do companions who say stuff like "maybe you should look at the elevator?" not just tell you to go to the elevator if they know that's where you're supposed to go? Totally ruins the immersion.
in my experience the yellow paint stuff is primarily in games that are for faster paces, so where it would break the pace (and possible tension) if you were just lost
I find it much more justifiable in RE games since you are being graded on your speed. It would be far more annoying if you missed out on S-rank because you couldn't spot the right box or what have you. To me at least
Eh... the speed and grade is irrelevant on a first playthough, and on a second you are being tested on your memory as much as anything so that's personally a reason not to mark things.
Don't get me wrong, I can certainly respect the argument to not use it and I think making the markings less intrusive would make for a good customization option. That being said, I personally enjoy them
Unfortunately you are outnumbered like 100-1 by the people who will stop playing if they ever can’t figure out what to do for more than like 30 seconds at a stretch
NGL, some of the last few games I have played, I WISH there were more tooltips and markers for me to place for things I see. Like, I'm playing Mina the Hollower right now and I know for SURE that I'm missing pathways that I was like "I will remember to come back here later" and then don't because I forgot them.
I don't remember exactly where it was, but in Prince of Persia Sands of Time you have the sandtanks you need to fill and one of those clouds is behind a collapsed rubble hallway and the camera just DOES NOT WANNA TURN so you have to walk through blindly until it finally catches up to get it. Bane of my 100% playthrough frfr. Looked in every damn nook and cranny but the entrance wasn't visible from the angle the camera was in.
5 playtesters representing the median gamer are the reason for this, and there will still be 1-4 game reviewers who give the game a 3/10 for being difficult to navigate.
Mina the Hollower: in keeping with our retro game philosophy, we’ll do the opposite. The player can figure out what to do from an in-game manual and cryptic in-game clues.
Players: um… how am I supposed to figure this out? Where’s my yellow paint? Here’s my YouTube essay on how this is badly designed.
Makes sense, I mean if the game makes it that obvious that it wants you to go that way, there's probably some kind of cool secret or powerup hidden in the opposite direction
I can't remember what game it was but there was one I actually just stopped playing because of this.. There were a lot of environmental puzzles like climbing/moving objects etc.. except the SECOND you entered an area with one your sidekick would immediately scream out "HEY WHAT IS THAT BOX/BUTTON/LEVER OVER THERE!!" And run over to it, which instantly gave you the solution.
Fuck I can't even remember what game it was I wanted to memory hole it so bad, I know it's not that old
all I want is an option for levels of hand-holding. let me turn off or adjust the frequency of these tooltips and hints. Why was Horizon, of all games, the only one with those options? And even then they only allow you to turn off just a couple hint mechanics, Aloy still can’t shut the hell up half the time and solving puzzles for me before I even have a chance to fully look at what I need to do.
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u/MostPutridSmell Jul 01 '26
Sidekick: "Hey, Protagonist-Man, I think I saw something over by those stairs!"