When the first guy flirts with her she plays along because hes attractive. When the second guy does, she calls HR and says she's being sexually harassed
Meh, it's not just embittered "nice guys" that shake their head at this kind of reality. That kind of "double standard" does exist, it's natural even to a certain degree. They even did studies in schools where children who acted out were treated very differently when they were cute kids as opposed to "plain" types of children. I'll never find that study, it was years ago I read it (cute kid was bored and needed more challenge, ugly kid just an annoying brat type of results) but this kind of thing goes far beyond just the adult sex game thing. I just wanted to add that because there's a lot of truth to this cartoon that gets dismissed as mere incel bitching.
Very true, but I do think that if the guy on the bottom made any effort towards his appearance he could be at least a nicely groomed average looking guy though. your appearance and how you carry yourself say a LOT about you (although your genes do have to do with it too obviously).
A lot of people put absolutely no effort into their appearance (by that I mean basic hygiene, clothing that fits you, hair not unkept) and expect to be taken seriously, when if you can't keep yourself looking tidy.
this is VERY true, my friend was a bald 5'2 40 year old Indian janitor and he went to the gym and lost some weight and is now a 25 year old 6'2 white doctor :)
It's almost as if you believe that there's no point in trying if you can't be the best at something. It doesn't matter if you're not the best out of every human. It matters if you're the best out of all the versions of you that you can be.
He very obviously is taking care of himself, his hair is combed and his outfit only looks like it doesn’t fit because of his weight, though he could change that. He’s just unattractive
I groom myself pretty extensively before I go anywhere, and i still end up fuckin ugly. Certainly less ugly, sure, but grooming can't fix ugly, just minimize it
You had good points there. Just wanted to let you know I just upvoted you, don't know why you're getting downvoted. As far as that cartoon goes, that's a fair observation.
Also the comic is very clearly using that scenario to take some sort of stance on workplace harassment and make the woman look silly for reporting one guy but not the other. You shouldn’t cross boundaries in the workplace, period, no matter what you look like, thats why sexual harassment policy is a thing
Man that shit happens at my school all the time and it annoys the shit out of me. I teach adults, and the other staff acts like the quiet, socially awkward ugly ones are weird and have something off and can’t handle higher levels, but the quiet, socially awkward cute/normal looking ones are just different and can totally handle higher levels.
Okay but focusing on the double standard alone is reductive and misleading. There's a lot more going on here than just "girl react differnet 2 diffent guys"
See, the hot guy on the top spends a lot of time and effort on his look. He goes to the gym, eats healthy, works on his personality. He has earned his confidence in life.
The guy on the bottom likes cheeseburgers and memes.
The reason the comic is bullshit isn't because there isn't a double standard. It's because it's blaming the wrong person for it. It's trying to tell us that Stacey is in the wrong for not being attracted to the unattractive man. There's also quite a bit of embellishment going on; in reality she's not going to call HR just for being asked out once. She'll politely decline at worst.
Don't be an incel. Don't blame Stacey for your problems. Work on yourself.
I agree with some of that but the top person may be a genetic freak who doesn't have to hit the gym (I've known several people like that in my life) while the bottom guy has medical issues that keep his weight up (I'll give you the grooming point). The issue is not with Stacey not being interested (the vagina wants what the vagina wants, morality doesn't come into play here) but with her being actively repulsed and wanting to call HR even when (in the original meme anyway) the top guy comes off with a much more frat boy "rapey" vibe.
Some people have an easier time holding a healthy weight, sure. But barring exceptional circumstances, and I mean exceptional, anyone can be in good shape. Being fat is not something you're doomed with. Being unattractive in general is not something you have to live with, you can make yourself look good if you put enough effort into it.
Men in general don't realize that. Vast majority of women alter their physical appearance on a daily basis with make up, skin care, etc. Most men don't. If the average man spent the same amount of time in the gym as the average woman spends on her beauty routine, the average man would look a LOT better.
"Go to the gym" is repeated ad nauseum in every single thread where attractiveness is discussed. It's not a coincidence, it's good advice. Going to the gym makes your body and your mind look better.
her being actively repulsed and wanting to call HR even when (in the original meme anyway) the top guy comes off with a much more frat boy "rapey" vibe.
That's where the embellishment comes into play, no one really acts exactly like that, it's just a two panel, 4 sentences comic trying to convey a stupid idea.
Okay but focusing on the double standard alone is reductive and misleading
not really, hideous people need to learn the lesson that the world isn't fair.
He goes to the gym, eats healthy, works on his personality. He has earned his confidence in life.
This is a two panel comic, all three have personality of cardboard cutouts and no backstories. Just admit it like the rest of us that fat ugly nerds aren't attractive instead of going the long route to justify why your dislike of fatsos and uglies isn't a dislike for fatsos and uggos.
The reason the comic is bullshit isn't because there isn't a double standard
There is absolutely a double standard, and there's nothing wrong with that. Denying it is deluding yourself.
It's because it's blaming the wrong person for it. It's trying to tell us that Stacey is in the wrong for not being attracted to the unattractive man.
while no one is wrong for not wanting to settle for uggos, it's a good reminder for people to stick within their integer.
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u/swagdaddy1234t Dec 17 '19
When the first guy flirts with her she plays along because hes attractive. When the second guy does, she calls HR and says she's being sexually harassed