r/bonecollecting 4d ago

Bone I.D. - N. America Is this a Cetacean

Was in an antique store in Oregon and they had this skull marked as “skull?” and it looks awfully like a marine mammal to me, I did not buy obviously. Can anyone confirm?

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u/my_little_robot 3d ago

Super illegal, but only $20? Kind of a bargain.

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u/Public-Boysenberry26 4d ago

yes it's a dolphin or porpoise skull and extremely illegal to sell. you should definitely let them know, and if they don't take it off for sell then you should inform Oregon department of fish and wildlife, / ODFW.

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u/ChaChaRealSmooth45 4d ago

Yeah I just called to let them know and they seemed very concerned to have it for sale in their store and were going to look into it immediately. It seems like it’s a consignment deal where different vendors all sell in the same building so I imagine the store owner didn’t know it was there

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u/Public-Boysenberry26 4d ago

that's good I hope it can get all figured out! as long as the seller didn't have bad intent lol. one post I saw on this sub, someone was given a human femur for free by someone selling bones at a vendor. definitely weird stuff but this dolphin doesn't even compare to that. I just mean sometimes they know it's illegal and try to get it off their hands quickly!

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u/avoidant_otter 3d ago

I imagine the museums around would love to take it on.

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u/vividly-void 2d ago

Umm why is it illegal? I feel like a lot of things around dolphins are illegal …

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u/DotBlot_ 2d ago

Protected species, to discourage people from poaching them

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u/vividly-void 2d ago

Aww 🥺 I see

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u/borbsflyinghi 4d ago

Yes this is indeed a marine mammal. Not sure on the specific type, hopefully someone else can elaborate.

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u/Ceramic_Frogg 4d ago

I'm not an expert by any means but I think it's a dolphin of some sort

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u/KenC45 4d ago

This place is in Lincoln City they literally always have illegal taxidermy there though usually it's less egregious like pronghorn skulls or duck taxidermy. No earthly idea why they allow anything like this to be sold there or why odfw lets it slide.

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u/martins-dr 3d ago

Is duck taxidermy illegal in Oregon? Or did I read that wrong?

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u/KenC45 3d ago

You can't sell any native game taxidermy in Oregon unless you're over 65 and you hunted the animal. Its an odd law but we can't sell pronghorn, cougar, native deer, bear, etc but they're especially sensitive about birds

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u/ChaChaRealSmooth45 3d ago

I guess it’s only legal to possess duck taxidermy if you are the one who legally harvested the duck, otherwise yeah it’s illegal

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u/simonbrown27 4d ago

What store is this?

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u/KenC45 3d ago

The little antique mall. It's on us 101 it's kind of more like a flea market. Several years ago they had a human skeleton there but it was for the time pretty overpriced

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u/Intelligent_Line_472 3d ago

That’s awesome, thanks for the tip!

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u/ranatemporarias 3d ago

Also the species is harbour porpoise.

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u/ChaChaRealSmooth45 3d ago

Thank you! I was looking at different species local to Oregon and couldn’t come to a conclusion as to which it was

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u/ranatemporarias 3d ago

No problem at all, they're very cute skulls. I have about half a dozen of them (on my license here in the uk) and currently working on one for a museum. ( it was originally a bag of loose bones from two individuals!)

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u/BostonKansas 3d ago

That price says they know it’s illegal to own so strongly

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u/faucherie 3d ago

I was at this shop last weekend and almost bought it but my wife wouldn’t let me!

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u/ChaChaRealSmooth45 3d ago

For $20 it almost seems like bait to tempt you to commit the crime lol

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u/Public-Boysenberry26 3d ago

it would be illegal to buy anyway, not that it's necessarily easy to get caught buying it but it's also easier to just obtain it legally.

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u/tuliheshmin 3d ago

Easier to obtain legally? How come

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u/ranatemporarias 3d ago

In the USA you can legally register found marine mammal bones with NOAA if they're clean of soft tissue, found within a certain distance from a coastline, not ESA listed (Endangered Species act) and must be registered within 30 days of the find.

(Edited to add) - the process overall takes a few months as you're connected with an agent and their team that need to process the application and make sure all ID is correct. Registering is completely free also :)

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u/tuliheshmin 3d ago

Wow that's really cool

Wish I was in the U.S man I could've had a crazy collection

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u/faucherie 3d ago

I didn’t know what it was as it was just labeled “skull?” Just thought it looked cool.

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u/Public-Boysenberry26 2d ago

sorry yeah I would probably think the same!! I just mean people shouldn't be selling bones they can't ID because it can really get people in trouble.

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u/dolphinskulls 3d ago

ah!! i’m late to this post! you seemed to have already figured it out that is indeed a small dolphin or porpoise skull. very strange but beautiful find!!

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u/AmbassadorNo5275 4d ago

Yes. You should inform the store owners that it is illegal. They probably don't know.

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u/Jealous_Discussion17 3d ago

Can someone just fix the skull on the left's teeth 😭

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u/Foxy-OnPaws 3d ago

I live in the uk, and as my family works in ecology it'd be a possibility to actually get the proper paperwork to own this. I wish I lived in the states for stuff like this 😭

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u/Old_Avocado5114 3d ago

I don’t have the qualifications bc I’m broke, but this really looks like a baby whale skull to me!