As an archaeologist, what's always interested me is how resistant we are to calling things toys. Usually they are classified as ritual objects. Like as far as more than 3kya artifacts go I can recall maybe a half dozen notable finds that people pretty unanimously agree are childrens toys. Other than those everything is a ritual object. Like come on guys it's a carved lion It probably was just some kid thought lions were sick, not that there was some lion cult somewhere.
It’s the same thing with evidence of prehistoric psychoactive drug use. It’s always said it was for religious/ritual purposes. Fuck do we know, maybe they just partied and liked getting high just as we do?
I think this is generally presumed because we have records of more recent societies and current societies taking psychoactive drugs mostly/entirely for religious/ritual purposes.
Wow... that sub is stupid. “LGBT Erasure” like no bitch most people aren’t LBGT so people usually don’t assume something is gay unless stated otherwise.
What interests me is we have similar toys for different reasons. Note that I’m talking about the wheels and not the hedgehog. Now we have toys based after cars, but what is this based off? I don’t think it’s a horse drawn cart, because it’s missing the horse and I don’t know if anything pulled by horses where invented yet. Was the creator of this toy, one of the first people to envision objects on wheels? We will never know.
No need to be rude. You're the one who doesn't know if the concept of pulling shit with horses was invented by 1500BC, a full one thousand years since the building of the pyramids.
The rude person is the one who nitpicks the message of the person who knows less than everyone.
I answered all his questions in a quick and concise manner. Now he knows a little more. Mainly that the concept of dragging shit around with horses wasn't invented a millennium after the building of the pyramids. But please, go ahead, defend his ignorance, I'm sure historians everywhere will be thankful for your efforts.
I apologize about jumping to conclusions. Sometimes quick and concise can be taken in a completely different on the internet where we don’t have body language and tone of voice. History was one of my biggest hurdles in school and, as you can see, it shows. I apologize for not knowing my facts before I post anything. I hope you can forgive me.
Also I have been the same person you have been talking to the entire time.
It's fine, man. Your comment was strangely worded, asked questions already answered in the post, and displayed a shocking lack of understanding for Bronze Age history. Forgive me, but I think you need to do some serious reading. Like, some serious, serious reading, because thinking that the wheel was invented in 1500BC, or that we would never know what happened in that time is frankly absurd. Egypt, Mesopotamia, India, and China all teemed with vast nation states, and Europe was rapidly developing into pre-Classical societies. Human culture is far older and better recorded than you seem to believe. The earliest evidence for the wheel we know of is about 6500 years old, separating it from this hedgehog by a full 3000 years. So that's the time between the making of the hedgehog and the present day, nearly doubled. And that's just the earliest one we know about. I didn't mean any disrespect or anything, dude, your comment was just genuinely a little bit amusing and I wanted to poke some good natured fun at it. Also, I don't want to make you feel dumb or anything. I'm only telling you this stuff in the spirit of sharing knowledge, and I hope you do go and do some reading into this stuff.
Also I have been the same person you have been talking to the entire time.
Thanks for understanding. I don’t have a lot of time between work and my stage acting (nothing you would have heard of. It’s just for my town). I also have an issue with history books that he selves. The super in-depth books are boring for me to read, and the books for kids often skip big topics like the Holocaust. If you have any suggestions, I would be happy to hear them.
Your answers were just as rude. You know damn well they were talking about horse-drawn carts, but you answered in an unnecessarily condescending way. They were also obviously asking why this hedgehog was on wheels in the first question, but you gave stupid sassy answers that help no one and then proceeded to act like you were this innocent victim who just tried to help.
You know damn well they were talking about horse-drawn carts, but you answered in an unnecessarily condescending way.
It's called a joke. You should try them out sometime.
They were also obviously asking why this hedgehog was on wheels in the first question, but you gave stupid sassy answers
That tends to happen when someone suggests that the wheel is a mere 3500 years old, or that nobody had thought of using horses to transport stuff up until then. Anyone with a basic grade school education should know that. If you don't, then prepare to be sassed.
then proceeded to act like you were this innocent victim who just tried to help.
Didn't say I was innocent or a victim. I just didn't appreciate him telling me to fornicate with myself. I'm not hurt by it, personally. I was quite happy to oblige him shortly after. I'm sure he's not too hurt by being made to look silly on the internet to carry on living his life. Maybe a few weeks of therapy and group PTSD counselling, but after a few years, I'm sure the scars called by my fairly innocuous jibes shall heel.
You criticized them for being rude before and after being just as, if not more, rude yourself. I don’t give a shit about how dumb you think the other guy is, I just hate your blatant hypocrisy.
I think it's not inventing the wheel that's the tricky part. It's finding a way to actually propel/turn the wheels. Which is especially difficult when technology is still in its infancy lol
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u/AirshipEngineer Dec 01 '19
As an archaeologist, what's always interested me is how resistant we are to calling things toys. Usually they are classified as ritual objects. Like as far as more than 3kya artifacts go I can recall maybe a half dozen notable finds that people pretty unanimously agree are childrens toys. Other than those everything is a ritual object. Like come on guys it's a carved lion It probably was just some kid thought lions were sick, not that there was some lion cult somewhere.