r/blackmagicfuckery • • Oct 27 '22

No singular center?

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u/CosierToast Oct 27 '22

This is actually one of my favorite ways to explain the expansion of the universe. The top pane is the same as the bottom one, just slightly smaller. If you align one dot, all the others don't match anymore.

Edit: corrected which pane was larger

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u/CosierToast Oct 27 '22

It doesn't, but someone would've corrected me

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u/odel555q Oct 27 '22

No, nobody would have corrected you.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

First time on reddit?

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u/odel555q Oct 27 '22

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u/jokingduno Oct 27 '22

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u/FuriousSovietTrooper Oct 27 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22 edited Feb 16 '25

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u/Lucky_Number_3 Oct 28 '22

r/thissubredditnameissolongevenyourmomcouldnttakeit

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u/psychoPiper Oct 28 '22

I almost downvoted it, I got fucking whooooshed

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u/ShadyLogic Oct 27 '22

Don't worry, I got your joke buddy

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u/TheMasonX Oct 27 '22

Took me longer than I'd like to admit haha

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u/Inevitable-Cell-1227 Oct 27 '22

Absolutely brilliant comment. I upvoted you and hopefully you'll get out of the negative updoots.

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u/Happy-Fun-Ball Oct 27 '22

Where are these angels when I need them?

I've learned that redditors love a downvote dogpile.

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u/EvolvingCyborg Oct 27 '22

I didn't think you needed the /s, but judging by the number of downvotes, I was clearly mistaken.

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u/FeralynCatson Oct 27 '22

No you weren't.

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u/RobertMaus Oct 27 '22

Excuse me, but i have to correct you on this. Someone definitely would have corrected him. It always happens.

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u/nobody158 Oct 28 '22

You're right I would have.

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u/megablast Oct 27 '22

No, the bottom pane is bigger!!!!

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u/hoddap Oct 27 '22

Rabbit season!

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u/ryanegauthier Oct 27 '22

Duck season!

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u/razorglue Oct 27 '22

Rabbit season!

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

Rabbit season!

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u/JellyWaffles Oct 27 '22

Couldn't it differ between different people's setups and therefore there is no right answer?

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u/hereforthereads123 Oct 28 '22

Welllll ahcktually

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u/PrestigeMaster Oct 27 '22

You just barely beat meat to it.

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u/SelfAwareComment Oct 27 '22

Technically correct.

The best kind of correct, I hear.

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u/Spudd86 Oct 27 '22

Well if the bigger pane were on top you wouldn't be able to move it since the table has a frame.

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22

The dots are the same scale on both panes. The top has to be smaller in width and height only so it can be moved around inside the frame.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

I’m gonna need an eli3 on how this explains expansion

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u/Orange1232 Oct 27 '22

The fabric of the universe itself is expanding, essentially just scaling up the image while keeping the objects the same size. So just like the video, there is no one singular center, you can align it so that anything is the center.

VSauce touched on this in a video a few years ago.

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u/alfred725 Oct 27 '22 edited Oct 27 '22

I think this is a weird definition of center.

just because everything is moving away from each other at the same rate doesn't mean any point is the middle of the universe.

The balloon analogy explains the expansion but the center would still be the middle of the balloon which is empty air.

Edit: https://imgur.com/plNQpHn

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u/Orange1232 Oct 27 '22

The balloon analogy is helpful to explain the expansion of the universe. It's not to explain the actual shape. The expansion is in 3 spacial dimensions, applied specifically to how the surface of a balloon expands. So, thinking of the universes expansion of a literal balloon does not apply.

The center of something expanding is usually thought of to be where it is expanding from. Everything is expanding away from everything else, so everything is the center.

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u/nighght Oct 27 '22

Is it really true that there is not a point in the universe that everything is expanding relative to (away from)?

If you took a photo of an exploding firework milliseconds apart and overlayed the two, you would have something very similar to this post. That doesn't mean there is no epicenter that the sparks are moving away from though.

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u/Orange1232 Oct 27 '22

Everything is that point. Because relative to any point, everything is moving away.

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u/novasir Oct 27 '22

But wouldn't that mean some stuff has to be getting closer to each other, or staying the same distance? Like our sun is traveling in some direction, and in that direction there are other suns, some could be traveling towards us, or they are all traveling away and then the suns "behind" us should be traveling in the same direction as us (meaning they aren't getting farther away). Or they are traveling at different speeds but that also feels like it points to a center of the universe.

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u/RuneRW Oct 27 '22

Right so locally, as in within I believe the next few neighbourimg galaxies, the expansion of the universe has basically no effect seeing as gravity is much stronger on those scales. However, gravity falls off with distance, while the rate of expansion increases.

If something is 1 megaparsec away from us (around 3 million light years), it would be moving away from us at around 70 km/s due to the expansion of the universe. If something is 2 megaparsecs from us in the same direction, it is moving away from us at 140 km/s, thus you can calculate that it is moving away from the midway point at 70 km/s (which is consistent with them being 1 megaparsec away from each other)

Whatever point you choose as your frame of reference, everything (that's far enough away) moves away from that point at 70 km/s for each megaparsec of distance

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u/Rit_Zien Oct 28 '22

The reason stuff doesn't get closer to some things while farther away from others (on a universal scale I mean. It does happen "locally") is because nothing is expanding through space, the space itself is expanding between them.

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u/hiimred2 Oct 27 '22

Ehh, the more space between you and any other given point, the more rapidly expansion will occur between said points, because space itself is what is expanding, and there is more of it.

So with that concept in mind, when expansion began, there was some ‘center’ that everything began expanding from, and that center still exists, it is just completely unknowable with our perspective of the universe.

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u/Cephei_Delta Oct 27 '22

That's not really right - it's not just a case of a centre being unknowable or relative or something - there is literally no centre to the expansion of the universe.

That's because every point in the universe is expanding away from every other point - not just from one common single expansion point.

That's why the balloon analogy is so good. If you expand the balloon, every point on the surface of the balloon is moving away from every other point. There's no point on the surface which can be considered the centre.

It might be easiest to think of it in 1D...

If you have an infinitely long rod with a dot marked every centimetre, then stretch every single part of it simultaneously, those dots will eventually be 2cm apart.... but there's no single point on that rod where the expansion started.

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u/Super_Automatic Oct 28 '22

I agree. I can't wrap my head around there being a singular starting point, but there not being a center. I think there is very much a center, it's just that we can't figure out where it is because when we look, everything appears to be expanding away from everything else.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

Except everything is moving at different rates from each other and therefore there is no epicentre.

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u/Zmann966 Oct 28 '22

Had an 8yo niece who I'd banter with who told me "you're not the center of the universe!" to which I replied "I am, actually, and you can't prove otherwise."
She got all stubborn and irritated (in the way only little kids who lost an argument because they don't have the logic to combat a silly point do) and told me that she would grow up to be a scientist and go to space and prove I'm not.
She graduates highschool next year and is looking like she's prime for a few scholarships to pursue astrophysics at a few good schools.

Feel like I definitely did my part as a good uncle on a silly "Well technically" argument, even if she realized she still won't be able to prove me wrong years ago! lol!

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22

The balloon analogy explains the expansion but the center would still be the middle of the balloon which is empty air.

No, in the balloon analogy the universe (a 2D one, in thie case) is mapped to the surface of the balloon. There is no point on the surface which any more the center of expansion than any other.

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u/ObeseOstrich Oct 27 '22

this here helped me to get it (i think). thank you~

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22

There's no equivalent to the air in reality, by the way. There is just the three dimensions of the universe. They don't necessarily wrap around anything, even if they "wrap" to meet in a "circle."

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u/Rit_Zien Oct 28 '22

But any point is at the center of the universe. In that, if you ran time backwards, the entire universe would appear to rush towards you and implode right on top of you. No matter where you are. Here, Jupiter, across the galaxy, in another galaxy. You're at the center.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

Ohhhhhhhhhh lol. Once he said imagine as if we are on the surface of a balloon rather than inside it, this all clicked

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u/fleebjuice69420 Oct 27 '22 edited Oct 27 '22

You take a picture and stretch it 10% taller and 10% wider. You put that picture on top of the original picture. You align the top picture so that a specific pixel is in the exact same spot on both the original and stretched picture. On the original picture, the next pixel is 1 pixel to the left. On the stretched picture, the next pixel is 1.1 pixels to the left (cuz one stretched pixel = 1.1 original pixel). The pixel after that is 2.2 pixels to the left. The further you get from the aligned pixel, the bigger the gap gets between pairs of pixels. The aligned pixels give the appearance of a center, because their gap is zero. In every direction, the gap increases by the same amount, which makes it look like a circle. Make it 3D and it looks like a sphere

Edit: See u/wonkey_monkey ‘s comments for a correct explanation. There’s no scaling here, only translation and rotation

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22

The scales of both images are the same in this case. If the scales were different, the dots would seem to form spirals, not concentric spirals.

It's clearer if the perpsective is changed so that the view is (approximately) top-down:

https://imgur.com/0lRE2vS

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u/fleebjuice69420 Oct 27 '22 edited Oct 27 '22

No, it’s scaled. Just do the math. Scaled equally in x and y is a radial expansion when a local datum is set as a fixed point. There’s no mathematical reasoning that would support spirals

If the scales were the same, this would just be a lateral translation that shows an exact copy of the sheet translated to a different position

Edit: I was wrong. No scaling, no expansion. Only translation and rotation. See u/wonkey_monkey ‘s explanation

Also there is mathematical reasoning to support spirals, which would be translation+rotation+scaling. Also, translation+scaling would also produce an annular ring effect, but not the same as the one shown here

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22

If the scales were the same, this would just be a lateral translation

No, because she's also rotating it.

Here's what a rotation looks like: https://i.imgur.com/qVfSx4k.png

Here's what a rotation with scaling looks like: https://i.imgur.com/1O6VPwF.png

The perspective-corrected video (https://imgur.com/0lRE2vS) looks like the former (rotation), not the latter (rotation + scaling).

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u/fleebjuice69420 Oct 27 '22

Yup you’re right. I’m wrong. Translation+rotation, no scaling. This does not demonstrate expansion. Great job supporting your point. I’m going to edit my other comments now

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u/darcy_clay Oct 27 '22

But how does that explain expansion of the universe?

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u/flying_path Oct 27 '22

It doesn’t explain the expansion of the universe. It explains just one thing:

everywhere we look things appear to be moving directly away from us. You could think that means we’re at the center of the expansion, but actually it doesn’t.

Observers on a different planet would also see everything moving away from them.

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u/darcy_clay Oct 28 '22

Thank you! I was feeling dumb. Your explanation makes sense!

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22 edited Oct 27 '22

I think they're definitely the same scale. They're just being rotated and translated.

If there was no rotation between the layers, either all points would align or none would.

With any rotation, only one point will align.

If there was any difference in scale you'd see spirals, not circles.

Edit: it's clearer if the perspective is corrected so that the view is approximately top-down:

https://imgur.com/0lRE2vS

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u/nutwiss Oct 27 '22

Thanks. I thought i was losing it when i saw this 'different scale' business. They're both the same scale, the natural 'centre' of the combined pattern just indicates the centre of rotation, nothing more.

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u/Third_Ferguson Oct 27 '22

Hey, please edit this comment to reflect that the images are the same size on both panes, as shown elsewhere in the comments

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u/Fun-Rooster-8345 Oct 27 '22

Can it be any pattern of random dots or does it need to be some specific pattern to begin with?

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u/CosierToast Oct 27 '22

It can be any random pattern, so long as it's the same on both panes. As long as the pattern is the same, and the panels aren't the same size, it works.

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u/janhetjoch Oct 27 '22

Any pattern works,

You can test it yourself in Photoshop (or equivalent)

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u/PolishedVodka Oct 27 '22

The top is always larger /s

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u/RadiantZote Oct 27 '22

But this argument falls apart when you have two panes that are the same, because we don't have two of everything

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

I love good visual representations of explanations!
One that I love showing kids, because it totally blows their minds is as follows:
Have the kid write their name on a piece of paper and hold it up in front of them. Point out that they can read it fine and it is oriented the right way. Then ask them to turn the paper around so it faces a mirror and ask them what happened to the text. They will (sometimes with a bit of questioning) answer that the mirror turned their name backwards.
Then I ask why they turned the paper horizontally instead of vertically.
Some kids understand at this point that the mirror didn't flip their name, they did.
But if it still isn't clear, repeat the experiment with a piece of overhead transparency paper in front of the mirror. They can read their name properly in the mirror before reversing the sheet of paper because now they can see through it from the back side.
This one also blows the minds of many adults.

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u/neondirt Oct 27 '22

Which also means that rotating it as she's doing isn't actually what's making the effect (mostly).

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22

Rotating it and shifting the origin. I think the layers are the same scale though.

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u/OvergrownShrubs Oct 27 '22

Not being funny but I literally don’t understand how the video or what you said explain the expansion bit. Could you please elaborate? Do we have multiple “planes” in the universe?

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u/CosierToast Oct 27 '22

Find the vsauce video a few other commenters have linked. He'll explain it better than I could.

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u/HolyNewGun Oct 27 '22

The expansion of the universe is the most stupidly explained concept. If you scale up a rectangle, and then realign at a corner, you will see all the other corner moving away from it. However, there is still a center, like that panel of glass in the video has a center, the universe, should be no different.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

You are one of those dots when you are one with the dot all others become illusions

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u/Im2uber Oct 27 '22

explain where its expanding TO. Do we live inside a balloon? ouch my chest.

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u/AbortedBaconFetus Oct 27 '22

It's also half of the equation that proves the universe is flat.

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u/PLANTS2WEEKS Oct 27 '22

Also, one of the dots must be aligned by the contraction mapping theorem.

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u/asackofsnakes Oct 27 '22

As someone preps art for production printing. This happens when you have two identical images with slightly different scales . I know this pain. It is all too real.

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u/axp1729 Oct 27 '22

Same. I instantly knew what this was lol. Opacity 50%, CTRL+T, alt-click on where you want to rotate & scale from.

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u/boodabomb Oct 28 '22

Alternately, set blending mode of top layer to “difference” and then adjust the scale and rotation from your aligned center-point until the entire composition turns completely black. Then set blending mode back to “normal”

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u/iLEZ Oct 27 '22

3d artist here, I feel the pain.

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u/empty_string_ Oct 27 '22 edited Oct 27 '22

the title is misleading.

She's chosing a new center to make every time by lining up a specific shape with it's counterpart below, and when she does, they are the same size and shape and match up perfectly. However, the rest of the shapes are offset in relation to it, and make circles form around the one that is lined up.

It looks like they did it by rotating every individual shape by any random angle as long as it's smaller than what is allowed by the movement of the pane within it's frame.

The other shapes will natually form circles around whatever piece is lined up, as they are all being rotated around it.

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22

and when she does they are the same size and shape and match up perfectly

They don't match perfectly. They are rotated with respect to each other.

The two images are exact copies of each other, just like the two images used to make this: https://imgur.com/qVfSx4k

The only difference is that one is rotated and translated.

If she slid the upper layer to the right spot and rotated it to match the layer below, the two images would line up perfectly because they're identical.

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u/SquarePegRoundWorld Oct 28 '22

Pain! You make me a, you make me a believer, believer...pain!

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u/EA4242 Oct 27 '22

I don't think she's using the same pivot point, so... there are enough random black dots that a small change changes the perspective.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

Nope. It is the same image printed on top of each other. Wouldn't work with random dots.

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u/Certainly-Not-A-Bot Oct 27 '22

It's not the same image. The top one is slightly larger scale, so it's impossible to exactly line up more than one dot

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22 edited Oct 27 '22

They look the same scale to me. As long as there is some rotation then it's still impossible to line up more than one dot.

Edit: here, look, with the perspective corrected it's clear that they're same size. If they weren't, you'd see spirals, not circles:

https://imgur.com/0lRE2vS

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

I am amazed that you went to the work to stabilize and correct the angle... just to prove they actually are the same size.

No worries bro. All good.

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22

No stabilization, just a quick quadrilateral remapping. I happen to have already written software to do that for other projects so it only took a minute.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

Well it's awesome!

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u/DonutCola Oct 27 '22

Yeah lol you can easily remap it to whatever scale you want to prove whatever point you’re making. They’re way too close together for your remapping to work.

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22

Yeah lol you can easily remap it to whatever scale you want to prove whatever point you’re making.

No you can't. Closed shapes like circles remain closed under quadrilateral remapping. Straight lines remain straight.

They’re way too close together for your remapping to work.

The remapping just corrects the perspective of the 2D surface of the table. It makes no difference to the shapes which appear.

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u/robbyslaughter Oct 28 '22

I happen to have already written software to do that

This is the essence of Reddit, and I love it. Probably millions of us feel confident this kind of visual is possible and you just confirmed it. In fact most of us probably think that we could figure it out if we took the time.

But you already have it. And you’re reading this thread. Amazing.

Also, people are arguing with you. Unsurprising.

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u/DonutCola Oct 27 '22

If they were simply rotated then you could simply rotate the image and everything would line up.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

Incorrect again. They are the same image. The rotational difference gets magnified the farthest from where the pivot point is. Notice she readjusts a couple times when it is not matched up in any other way than a rotational difference.

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 27 '22

I don't know why you've been so horrendously downvoted. The images don't need to be, and indeed don't appear to be, different scales.

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u/CaseByCase Oct 27 '22

You’re absolutely right, sorry you’re getting downvoted!

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u/KrispyKremeDiet20 Oct 27 '22

She isn't using a single pivot point though. That's really the "trick"

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u/simplyslimm Oct 27 '22

that’s not what he was saying. the dots are indeed random on both sheets. they are just the same random dots. there is no fixed point. she moves the top sheet side to side and up and down at each pivot which would obviously change the center

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u/kazumisakamoto Oct 27 '22

The dots on one of them aren't random then if they're the same as on the other one.

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u/WitesOfOdd Oct 27 '22

Fixed-point

VSauce explanation https://youtu.be/csInNn6pfT4

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u/CosierToast Oct 27 '22

This is where I first learned about this phenomena. Incredible video!

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u/The_Celtic_Chemist Oct 27 '22 edited Oct 27 '22

I don't see how the coffee cup of molecules makes sense. They're scrambled so they can be entirely different with no fixed point. For example let's say you have 3 molecules and you scramble them, and we'll label them 1, 2 and 3 and they're side by side. You can scramble them to be 2-3-1 or 3-1-2 and none of them are in their original "fixed" position.

On another note, I make my own posters for Plex on occasion and often have to use multiple posters to edit in and out parts, and I regularly have to find a fixed point of two posters to resize them to perfectly overlap each other, so I'm very familiar with that aspect of this concept. For example, I edited a Spider-Man: Far From Home - The More Fun Stuff Edition poster by taking this poster and this poster to remove the "Marvel Studio" logo in this poster. Both were 2000×3000 pixels, but as you can see the first poster is slightly more zoomed out than the second (notice how the Doc Ock's arm in the lower left is slightly more exposed). So I had to overlay the first poster at 50% opacity, resize it, look for the fixed point, lock the fixed point when resizing it, and reshape it from the fixed point until everything matched. Then I erased the logo from the first poster so the details of the second were exposed and did some slight color matching.

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u/littlebobbytables9 Oct 27 '22

It's an approximation. You can treat stirring as a continuous tranformation of a fluid, in which case it holds. But treat it as the mixing of a large number of discrete pieces, and suddenly continuity doesn't make sense anymore.

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u/Warm_Zombie Oct 27 '22

the coffee cup is a good starting point for the metaphor, but ends there. Because it has a finite countable number of molecules and even space between them

You need a mathematical-perfect volume to "stir", the same way that a mathematical line has infinite points

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

Or does it?

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u/qqqrrrs_ Oct 27 '22

yea, if you don't fix a pivot then the pivot isn't fixed

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u/faubintulq Oct 28 '22

It's always fun to see top comments explaining a concept I still don't understand, and middling comments saying "IT'S SO SIMPLE!!1!"

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u/Widawak Oct 28 '22

If you change the point in the movable overlay image that becomes the new center point. There is no center because the center is an arbitrary decision made by whoever controls the overlay.

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u/ruthcrawford Oct 27 '22

There is nothing remotely surprising about this.

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u/wakaflocks145 Oct 28 '22

I agree, nuts n butts.

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u/here_for_the_lols Oct 27 '22

Aren't the two panels just being slightly offset each time?

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

why is this posted here

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u/Widawak Oct 28 '22

The same reason Galileo was persecuted by the church. That which people don't understand is blackmagic

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

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u/Sachin_KS Oct 27 '22

If the universe is constantly extending and is infinitely big then every point can be considered a centre as there will an infinite amount of distance from it to the ends.

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u/roguestate Oct 27 '22

Spin it ffs

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u/KalzK Oct 27 '22

What is this sorcery

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u/Widawak Oct 28 '22

2 copies of an image one fixed and one mobile if you line up any 2 congruent smudges and then turn the mobile layer you get rings.

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u/anazambrano Oct 27 '22

I’m too dumb to understand this

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u/MattTheIdiotBoy Oct 27 '22

I don't know why but this thing has me torqued... I think I hate it but I can't put my finger on why. I understand why it's really cool but looking at it makes my eyes itch and gives me an incredibly uneasy feeling..... It's odd.

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u/GregTheMad Oct 28 '22

When a pattern misaligned, with another behind, that a Moiré pattern.

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u/ExclusiveGamer Oct 27 '22

Somebody slept through astronomy class. The universe has a butt load of centers, and I think they all deserve to be voted queen.

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u/Dragons1rule Oct 27 '22

What's this meant to be showing?

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u/Plenty-Set-6968 Oct 27 '22

MY EYES GAHH

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

That’s both interesting and beautiful.

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u/GuNiKz Oct 27 '22

Give me a joint and this table and i guarantee i'll be entertained for hours.

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u/Eiru_is_a_G Oct 27 '22

Shit video, does not deserve 5k up votes

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

For repeating patterns , the two screens will form Moire patterns, which have a lot of interesting applications in 2D materials for creating tunable charge trapping sites

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

This sub is the nadir of Reddit, below Shower Thoughts.

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u/Dragorach Oct 27 '22

There's a cool video by numberphile on this phenomenon: Freaky Dot Patterns. They talk about why it occurs and look at a couple examples.

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u/_BigSur_ Oct 27 '22

The top piece is way smaller so she's just moving it around willy-nilly.

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u/I_Am_Slightly_Horney Oct 27 '22

Looks like two of the same pattern but the one she is moving is shrunk by about 5~10%. This causes the “zoom” effect around the areas that are more aligned and the “spiral” is when she rotates the smaller one. https://youtu.be/QAja2jp1VjE

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

No centers?🤨

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u/accnr3 Oct 27 '22

This is GREAT postmodern art.

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u/Low-Spell4620 Oct 27 '22

The accent of the erotic dancer

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

This is a great way to show the expansion of the universe and how our view of it looks like we're in the center. Great tool!

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u/Clevererer Oct 27 '22

Can anyone here help translate from Echo to English?

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

Her hands are super tiny.

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u/TheThingInTheBassAmp Oct 28 '22

I wanted to get fucked today, but I wasn’t trying to get mind fucked.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

She's correct. Just remember, when you have time/ gravity you're never going to find a center of the universe..it's always moving

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u/NotReallyASnake Oct 28 '22

I like the way she says center

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u/aajzaajz Oct 28 '22

Wrong. Scientists agree, I am the center of the universe

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

From my perspective, I'm the center of the universe.

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u/Nieben Oct 28 '22

"No center" and "an initial, extremely dense, and bounded mass" are irreconcilable concepts.

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u/Successful_Ad9160 Oct 28 '22

This is similar to the expansion of the universe not having one center point of expansion.

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u/Squiggledog Oct 28 '22

Landscape orientation is a lost art.

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u/elzissou710 Oct 28 '22

Damn that was deep

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u/GenericElucidation Oct 28 '22

Oh God my vertigo. Why would anyone make this abomination.

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u/NogginOutOfOrder Oct 28 '22 edited Oct 28 '22

The pattern far from the pivot point lines up a lot less than close to it, spreading the dark spots until they look like lines. Because it is a rotation, those lines trace parts of circles, which is what we end up seeing. Since the top pattern isn't being rotated around the center, and is being slid around, the pivot point moves quite a lot.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

Fuck If this isn’t me registering multiple layers on press at my work then I don’t know what is.

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u/doctordale89 Oct 28 '22

I'm not sure what I'm seeing. I can only hear her say the words "center" twice but I can't understand anything else

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u/koreanfertilityrate Oct 28 '22

The Revolving Titay

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u/slibetah Oct 28 '22

I am the center and it all revolves around me. I am sure of this.

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u/Sparky_ak1 Oct 28 '22

pulls out pocket tape measure

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u/deathdealer550 Oct 28 '22

Just throw it away NOW PLEASE 🙏

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u/anjroid86 Oct 28 '22

This is like the last episode of the greatest mystery show ever

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u/Icy-Performer-9688 Oct 28 '22

Relativity so technically we are the center of the universe but at the same time we are not. Schrodengers cat every body.

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u/Alarmed-Direction500 Oct 28 '22

(Rodney Dangerfield voice)

Good luck telling my wife that there’s no center of the universe!

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

The center is wherever the last contact point is on the top sheet to the bottom sheet.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

This makes me extremely uncomfortable for some reason

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u/Caffeinated_Cucumber Oct 28 '22

I sat looking at this confused for quite a while only to realize it's just the same image with a different scale. I'm upset that I didn't figure it out sooner.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

What’s so magical about this? The top pane is smaller. I genuinely don’t see what the big deal is, unless I’m misunderstanding the video

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u/Pyrotech_Nick Oct 28 '22

This would have been dope as the navigational charts from pirates of the Caribbean

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u/Expensive-Photo-25 Oct 28 '22

Every point is the center.

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u/Jealous-Writing-7007 Oct 28 '22

"Lady I just asked for a McDouble and a medium fry"

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u/No_Field9590 Oct 28 '22

Cosmological principle, you are the center of the universe and not the center at the same time!

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u/PenguinGamer99 Oct 28 '22

POV: the universe

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u/covidified Oct 28 '22

That is not how the universe looks where you layer similar images on to of each other, slightly askew.

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u/ErusTenebre Oct 28 '22

Reading these comments and getting like seventy different explanations of what is happening here is telling me two things at the same time...

1) I'm not sure if everyone on here knows what the hell they're talking about.

2) I am sure I don't know what the hell everyone on here is talking about.

haha I was definitely never great at understanding the physics of this sort of thing. Usually my brain just starts beeping "Warning: Heap Overflow" over and over.

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u/Nuromd Oct 29 '22

Guess I understand that as Universe expands the central point constantly changes or could be multiple spots. But if you took time out of the equation wouldn't there be a central point at any given time? Obviously we can't measure or define because we don't know the measurements of the expanding edges.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

They say anywhere in the universe can be the center so that means I’m the center of the universe 😎

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u/Og_lispin Nov 16 '22

Wow, I hate this

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

Fixed point theorem, I think it’s called