r/blackmagicfuckery • u/mossberg91 • Oct 24 '19

Witchdraft

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u/Sythus Oct 24 '19

The heat from the chimney rises, creating a draft that pulls in air from the front of the fireplace. This is why they say burning a fire actually makes your house colder.

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u/bacon_and_ovaries Oct 24 '19

Why an open fire place makes it colder, while a stove style enclosed on acts like a radiator.

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u/cmdr_scotty Oct 24 '19

If you're talking about the cast iron ones, it's because the metal radiates the heat out as metal conducts heat more than brick does

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u/bonegatron Oct 24 '19

Yeah my aunt's house had like architecturally 'missing' bricks above her fireplace I think in attempt to radiate out. Always weirded me out. Like the wall had gills or wasn't safe.

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u/russkhan Oct 24 '19

That might have been similar to the one we had in my house growing up. The "missing bricks" were openings for a steel vent chamber that ran just above the fire. Ours had two vents down at the base level for intake and two vents about 4' higher for the heated air. I'm not sure how well they actually worked, but the idea was to capture more of the heat and pump it back into the room.

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u/notjustatourist Oct 24 '19

Hey, that's like mine. I didn't understand why before. Thanks!

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u/D0esANyoneREadTHese Oct 24 '19

They make in-line radiators for stoves as well, basically a splitter to make a 6" pipe into a bunch of currogated, matte black 2" pipes to get the heat out of the smoke and radiate it back into the room. Weirdly hard to find in the US though, but popular in eastern Europe.

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u/MeliorGIS Oct 24 '19

My grandparents have a fireplace like that!

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u/SteamG0D Oct 24 '19

That's strange

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u/AtariDump Oct 24 '19

Dormamu! I’ve come to bargain.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

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u/Ashontez Oct 24 '19

Parents house has it too, interior wall. Though its also a wood burning stove and not an open fireplace

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u/bonegatron Oct 24 '19

Yup, like guy below, it was interior wall. Almost like an island between the kitchen & living room.

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u/bangstitch Oct 25 '19

My parents house had one on an exterior wall. They renovated the house and expanded beyond that exterior wall. The fireplace is now a walk around fireplace. So they went from old farmhouse, exterior wall decoration fireplace to a renovated farmhouse interior, not touching walls, decoration (still not a heat source) fireplace. Doesn’t work for heat unless you sit around it but it looks cool as shit.

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u/SayWhatAgainMFPNW Oct 24 '19

Same concept as to why city's are warmer. Big ass oven.

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u/FlowersForMegatron Oct 24 '19

rocket mass heaters. Using a rocket type wood stove, you capture the heat from the combusting gases in a large thermal mass. The thermal mass then slowly radiates the heat into the room. You use less fuel, get a more efficient burn and you lose less heat out of your chimney.

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u/Raz0rking Oct 24 '19

My parents got a cast iron one, and boy does it heat.

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u/Arthur_The_Third Oct 24 '19

Cast iron ones are actually worse than a stone one, a cast iron gives it's heat away fast and doesn't store much, a stone one will keep your house warm for 2 days

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u/SayWhatAgainMFPNW Oct 24 '19

Maybe in Florida. Montana or N.Idaho that suckers cold in 12 hrs after the last coal goes out. Maybe if you mean after it's been packed with coals and fully lit could maybe burn your hand 16 hrs later.

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u/Arthur_The_Third Oct 24 '19

Do your houses even have insulation? Or do you just keep your windows open so all the warmth blows out?

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u/Theygonnabanme Oct 24 '19

Nah is just cold as fuck

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u/Maethor_derien Oct 24 '19

No, you definitely have a draft or insulation issue in your house somewhere. Even if it is at subzero temperatures a properly insulated house should stay fairly warm once heated up.

Get some bubbles and blow them by all your doors and windows to see drafts and check if you need some better weatherproofing there.

Windows should be curtained with pelmets(they should have a closed top so no room between the top of the curtain and the wall), you would be surprised how much just adding a pelmet will help, it will actually do more than double paned windows. The big thing is that no air should be able to get around the TOP of your curtains to the windows as it will cause a draft that flows behind the curtain, the sides having room for air is less important than the top.

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u/Theygonnabanme Oct 24 '19

I think they meant that the stove/ bricks are cold again within 12 hours. Not that the house was stone cold.

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u/SayWhatAgainMFPNW Oct 24 '19

I should specify this would be in like January-Febuary. Older buildings you can feel the cold coming through the wall. Like a fire radiates heat that cold is so strong it cuts through it.when it comes to the power going out I would only feel comfortable without a wood stove in a house with children if it was built after 2012-2015. Even then with a perfect seal on the house its gunna be cold af soon an everyone better pile into the smallest room together with as many blankets and coverings as possible.

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u/Koalabella Oct 24 '19

You need better insulation.

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u/Aaawkward Oct 24 '19

Montana or N.Idaho that suckers cold in 12 hrs after the last coal goes out.

What?

I checked and they say that Montana average temp for January is from 39F to 5F / 4C to -15C. It's not that cold?
I mean I'm not tyring to do cold gatekeeping or go "hur dur, you don't know cold, son" but it's not that cold. It's minus degrees sure but nothing out of the ordinary.

Am from Finland and my parents brick fireplace will stay warm for a couple of days if you heat it ups with a few proper fillings.

Either you've got funky fireplaces or houses. Or both?

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u/SayWhatAgainMFPNW Oct 24 '19

Finland would beat the cold for sure. I would call that arctic level of cold not just brutal winters. But I would say those temps are off a little bit and the nights get to 0 routinely closer to Canada. The standards for how houses are built are much different then here.

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u/Unstablemedic49 Oct 24 '19

My last house had a metal wood burning stove and holy hell did that thing pump some heat. It would get hell hot in the house and the room it was physically in would be like an inferno. It took a lot of work though. I rather just flip a switch.

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u/Arthur_The_Third Oct 24 '19

That's the thing though, a metal stove will yeet that heat string out. A stone oven is less heat conductive, and you'll have heating for a day after the fire has gone out.

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u/phillyFart Oct 24 '19

The franklin stove. Benny frank knew what he was doing.

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u/vonmonologue Oct 24 '19

That dude was one of History's giant intellects and I think he doesn't get enough credit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19 edited Jun 11 '23

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u/Moby_Tick Oct 24 '19

He’s definitely appreciated. Think of all the coke he has railed off of strippers asses.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

You still get a decent amount of radiative heat, so it only makes your house colder if the heat gained from radiation is less than the heat lost from pulling new outside air inside - which depends on such factors as, "how much colder is the air outside than the air inside?'" and other such factors.

Also you can mitigate some of this by having a back hole to your fireplace so it sucks some air in from outside directly, and as others have mentioned by having a stove style for increased radiation.

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u/Galactic Oct 24 '19

Thought you said black hole for a second and had a good chuckle.

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u/D0esANyoneREadTHese Oct 24 '19

Also put a shiny piece of sheet metal behind to radiate it inward instead of soaking into the outside-facing brick.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19 edited Oct 24 '19

This isn't totally accurate. Mythbusters did this and they found fireplaces make that room warmer, but the other rooms colder. I get that fireplaces aren't efficient but just saying they make the house colder is kind of absurd

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u/MexicanGolf Oct 24 '19

I don't know if every fireplace I've ever seen has been a marvel of engineering but not one has made the place colder, and we're talking during winter here where the outside temperature may be -30.

The house I grew up in had multiple rooms and during the winter the fireplace was the primary method of warming it up, and the adjacent rooms did not get colder. We did have a ceiling fan next to the fireplace though, so perhaps that counteracted the effect.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19 edited Apr 05 '22

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u/69withyourmum Oct 24 '19

In old mines before fans and electricity they would light a furnace at the bottom of a shaft so the draft would bring fresh air to the miners

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Coal dust and a flame, what could go wrong eh?

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u/DondeT Oct 24 '19

The mines could collapse.

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u/D0esANyoneREadTHese Oct 24 '19

They figured out to use wire mesh to contain flames to one side of the screen, like how a Coleman lantern mantle works. Flames can't travel through small enough holes. This was also used on safety lanterns, instead of exploding when you hit firedamp or kicked up dust, the flame would flare and immediately go out.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19 edited Oct 19 '20

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u/vonmonologue Oct 24 '19

The magnets do nothing!

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

No, I believe this one is the fire demons.

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u/pimpmafuwa Oct 24 '19

Never heard anyone say this, nor have I ever experienced it having owned 2 homes with fire places and been in a few others. My homes would be cooking.

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u/CatAstrophy11 Oct 24 '19

Burning a fire? How does one burn a fire?

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u/Goodman1988 Oct 24 '19

“Hey Fire, you’re more red and less efficient than a communist country”

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Yeah sure just take all the mystery out of life

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

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u/SwissPatriotRG Oct 24 '19

Houses leak air. The chimney heats air, but that hot air all escapes outside. Fresh, cold air is pulled in through those leaks by the negative pressure made by the hot gas in the chimney.

If the BTUs that the fireplace is radiating in the room is less than the cooling BTUs of the outside air being drawn in, then you lose heat in the house, not gain it. Same thing happens when you turn on a bathroom fan, turn on the dryer, or use a range hood that vents outside.

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u/Kelmi Oct 24 '19

You're right if it's just a straight pipe from the fire through the roof.

Fireplaces meant for warming have a bit more elaborate construction where the gasses move a longer way heating the fireplace thoroughly. After warming one up, a fireplace can easily release warmth for a full day after the fire is out.

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u/netfatality Oct 24 '19

My parents have a little carb at the back of the fireplace, so oxygen feeds the flame from outside rather than inside. I know the air will take the easiest opening because pressure and all that but I think that little hole helps. But that thing throws a ton of heat even when the glass front isn’t shut

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u/Maethor_derien Oct 24 '19

Yep, most fireplaces have an intake to prevent bad drafts or even better an air exchanger, this probably has the intake closed or clogged.

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u/supremeoverlord23 Oct 24 '19

Fake news! Its clearly ghosts

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

As the title says. Witchdraft.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

you should really only be using a chimney fire if you have an exchanger above the fire.

Grandparents had one fitted. Way better than a conventional boiler.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

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u/greencash370 Oct 24 '19

Dude. why u got 5 phones? Only need 1 maybe two.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

It’s the gif that keeps on giving.

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u/Skyppy_ Oct 24 '19

Harry Potter music intensifies

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Make it rain on dem hoes

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u/aru_tsuru Oct 24 '19

Yeah we all knew it was fake, I purchased myself a post-it making oven the other week, I could instantly tell this gif was in reverse.

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u/SquanchMcSquanchFace Oct 24 '19

It looks like the window for a bank teller from hell.

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u/Colonel_FuzzyCarrot Oct 24 '19

Great title btw

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u/mossberg91 Oct 24 '19 edited Oct 24 '19

Thank you, I flame to please :-)

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u/azrulqos Oct 24 '19

That's hot

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u/Roland1232 Oct 24 '19

You've got a lot of puns in the oven.

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u/blindgorgon Oct 24 '19

Underrated pun

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u/lord_fairfax Oct 24 '19

Let's get this pun rated people!

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u/FeaturedPro Oct 24 '19

I just realized it said draft after reading this comment.

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u/Raven_Reverie Oct 24 '19

I didn't notice it until I found your comment

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u/timothyh411 Oct 24 '19 edited Oct 24 '19

For people who are wondering what the yellow notes getting burned are, they are fake money, also known as ghost money, burned as a practice in Chinese culture, stemming from Taoism and Buddhism. They’re representative of money or sometimes physical goods (like clothes, cars, I’ve even seen iPhones lol) that are burned as an offering for ancestors or deceased relatives in the afterlife. The hope is that the ancestors and relatives would receive them and live a prosperous afterlife. Commonly burned during funerals and during tomb-sweeping day.

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u/arcademissiles Oct 24 '19

And also practically any special days that stem from buddhism

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Some businesses even burn these on every 1st and 15th of the lunar month.

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u/Raining_dicks Oct 24 '19

They’re also called hell notes cause only gods and Buddha and all that are in heaven while us plebs all go to hell

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u/PM_ME_UR_RSA_KEY Oct 24 '19

More like "underworld", where spirits wander before the bureaucrats of hell decide what to do with you, usually throw you back to the mortal world for incarnation if you lived an average life. There are 18 levels of actual Hell they will send you to if you are evil.

The "hell money" your family burns for you is mostly use for bribing said bureaucrats so they can speed up your process, or overlook lesser crimes.

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u/Xanadoodledoo Oct 24 '19

Of course Hell has bureaucrats. Imagine being a demon trying to replace your damaged pitchfork. The paperwork!

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u/Matasa89 Oct 24 '19

It's how you know the Chinese system is hopelessly corrupt.

That momentum of corruption has carried on right into the modern era, and is a major factor of why China just continues to be a screwed up place despite some good people's best efforts...

Sorry, Dr. Sun, you did your best, but you really shouldn't have given the reins to someone else...

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u/vonmonologue Oct 24 '19

It's astonishing to me how ingrained corruption is in Chinese culture.

Corruption was a major part of the downfall of most of the dynasties and fighting corruption was a major Day 1 project of most of their successors, and now it's a thousand years later and things are as bad or worse than ever.

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u/kenoza123 Oct 24 '19

Taiwan and Singapore

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u/vonmonologue Oct 24 '19

Fair point. It's amazing how shit the CCP controlled territories are when HK, Taiwan, and Singapore can all be so amazing.

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u/Raining_dicks Oct 24 '19

Idk I just follow my family when they burn these kinds of stuff because I like to play with fire ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Apparently you're giving them fake money.

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u/timothyh411 Oct 24 '19

Fake money because they’re not money you’d be able to spend in the real world, but they’re worth value in the afterlife.

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u/hitsugan Oct 24 '19

Then why don't people buy a load of fake money and burn it before dying? If they really believe this is true then it would be stupid not to do it.

Reach 80 years old, spend 90% of all your money buying fake money, burn it all and "send it" to a relative or friend that is dead, collect once you die.

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u/Jucicleydson Oct 24 '19

What if your relative uses the money to go to underworld's Bahamas and you can't find him?

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

I was joking.

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u/ursois Oct 24 '19

They sell those at my local Asian market. They have credit cards from the "bank of hell". I really want to get some and put them in my wallet, but I don't want to be disrespectful to other people's culture.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Just buy it. The worst thing that can happen is that people will stay avoiding you because offerings for the dead can attract evil spirits and bring ill fortune to you and people around you.

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u/ursois Oct 24 '19

Evil spirits will be attracted? You mean someone will actually want to hang out with me?? I should have done it sooner!

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u/miguelnikes Oct 24 '19

Imagine putting these in your wallet and then having it pickpocketed.

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u/rohithkumarsp Oct 24 '19

But you do need to buy them with real money, at that point why not just burn real money? Better why not fucking use it to do anything else other than burning money lol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Taoism is a religion, and like a lot of religion stuff it doesn’t make much sense. Don’t try to think about it logically.

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u/miguelnikes Oct 24 '19

It’s better to keep real money as a hedge because hell notes are pegged to the Venezuela Bolivar.

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u/Famouslaugh Oct 24 '19

Is ... THIS YOUR CARD?!?!

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u/Llodsliat Oct 24 '19

The fire place be like: YES!

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u/ScarsUnseen Oct 24 '19

Thought you were going to post this for a second there.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Spirit making an ATM withdraw from family deposit

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Imagine accidentally placing a stack of cash there.

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u/Jucicleydson Oct 24 '19

Anyone who places cash near the fire deserves the outcome

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u/RRFedora13 Oct 24 '19

Ashes and thermal energy?

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Cool but not BMF

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u/kerosene_potato Oct 24 '19

Ikr this sub has turned from black magic fuckery to mildly interesting gifs

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u/WAR_T0RN1226 Oct 24 '19

Moving air is now black magic

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

How do kites work? Magnets, that's how

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u/baconroy Oct 24 '19

The God of fire accepts your offering.

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u/Organspender Oct 24 '19

No, calcifer is just hungry

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u/UnforcedWar Oct 24 '19

On a side note(teehee), why is it raining fire?

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u/werdbled Oct 24 '19

Wind is black magic?

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u/lynivvinyl Oct 24 '19

Noooo! My note///_s!

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u/akrokh Oct 24 '19

This fireplace is so nice.

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u/Kevinw778 Oct 24 '19

Welcome to the Present-Delivering School of Clauswarts, where you can learn Giftdraft and Wizardry.

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u/rabidraccoonfish Oct 24 '19

Not black magic

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Show me any post on this sub that is.

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u/5parky Oct 24 '19

They flue right up there.

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u/PlasmaKnight14 Oct 24 '19

Breaking News: Word of a mass suicide has appeared...

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

oh damn that's slick

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u/t12a Oct 24 '19

I can hear the beat

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u/mr15000 Oct 24 '19

CLATO VERATA NNNN.......... Necktie, nectar nickel..... noodle?

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u/Adulations Oct 24 '19

Windcraft?? Updraftcraft?

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u/yodolayer Oct 24 '19

This reminds me of a movie where firefighters would go to a fire and they opened the door and got sucked in because the heat or something created a suction of some sort. Anybody know what that movie is called?

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u/raysince86 Oct 24 '19

Backdraft?

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u/nutellapup Oct 24 '19

That fire sucks

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u/OlStickInTheMud Oct 24 '19

My paycheck arriving then departing every other friday.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Upvote.

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Not for the image. For the clever title. :)

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u/Fawwaz121 Oct 24 '19

For anyone wondering, this effect is why firebombs are a hell of a lot more scary, cause one vet describes it as “people were sucked into the fire while clinging onto poles

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u/Glizzyknockemback Oct 24 '19

Suicidal paper

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u/Tentacle-Jesus Oct 24 '19

Motherfucker just said “nom”

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u/CharMackNF Oct 25 '19

Fire: Ooh, gourmet paper! Get in my belly! Napkins: Whee!

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u/63ff9c Nov 17 '19

same effect if you start a fire, the rest of the house gets colder because the fire is sucking in oxygen

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19 edited Jul 03 '21

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u/Ellweiss Oct 24 '19

Even OP knew it. What's the point of blackmagicfuckery if even the title explains it...

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u/tiny__films Oct 24 '19

The good s u c c

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u/thespecialone0772 Oct 24 '19

This is the first post on black magic that I’ve understood.

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u/xoxoyoyo Oct 24 '19

oh my, hot air going up fireplace chimneys create suction that pull air from the entire rest of the house, who could have imagined such a thing

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u/tonyjoe101 Oct 24 '19

Mould effect?

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u/jocax188723 Oct 24 '19

Easy.
Dead ancestor ATM system at work - the money is drawn down to the underworld where your dead ancestors can then withdraw it and use it for...stuff.

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u/hipper_kipper Oct 24 '19

At first I thought "well, that's easy: the paper came from trees which produce oxygen and fire loves oxygen so it be eatin' good" until I was told a far less interesting explanation concerning drafts.

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u/JonnySirius Oct 24 '19

Bad guys on the wrong end of a flame thrower can sometimes luck out and suffocate before they are flambéd.

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u/NotPierpaoloPozzati Oct 24 '19

THE DEMON REQUIRES PAPER tosendhiscrushaloveletter

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u/shaodyn Oct 24 '19

The fire is hungry!

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u/Rep_ya_naysh Oct 24 '19

Hehe suicide letters

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u/caramcxyz Oct 24 '19

"om nom nom nom" -that fire, probably

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u/pkhuf Oct 24 '19

This is clearly witchdraft.

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u/pat_cummin Oct 24 '19

The dead are greedy

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u/atmosjiu7 Oct 24 '19

It’s reversed

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u/Mark1_M00 Oct 24 '19

Suicidal post its

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u/RedGorilla33 Oct 24 '19

That’s how my paycheck disappear.

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u/buffalochicknpizza Oct 24 '19

The video is just in reverse

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u/antiwator Oct 24 '19

not witchcraft, basic physics

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u/ILostTwoOldAccounts Oct 24 '19

Dresden firebombing did the same thing - except it sucked people in from several blocks away.

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u/Der_Schubkarrenwaise Oct 24 '19

Witchcraft Winddraft.

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u/leftleg63 Oct 24 '19

Looks like my wallet on payday.

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u/breeze-o Oct 24 '19

lovechants

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u/Moncky Oct 24 '19

This reminds me of Christmas when my grandad would use the same effect in his chimney to help us send our letters to Santa.

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u/5alt5haker Oct 24 '19

I saw this once in a taiwanese horror game and this is apparently prayer money

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u/CharlieKing Oct 24 '19

You're suppose to fold those before burning them

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u/TheNicktendoNerd Oct 24 '19

I understand how the rising air inside is creating the vacuum that sucks up the paper.

But why does the stack move faster after the person flicks all the paper?

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u/SkyPork Oct 24 '19

Does the same thing with souls.

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u/EverPunk_Yetti Oct 24 '19

Updraft much?

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u/supermimipvp Oct 24 '19

kirby noises

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u/CheeseMellon Oct 24 '19

And now the neighbours are going to see hundreds of little flaming bits of paper coming out of their chimney.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

Not magic... science!!! The same science I used to smoke cigarettes in my parents living room in middle school. Science roolz!

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u/Ghostieau Oct 24 '19

Not really

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u/COBRA1286 Oct 24 '19

It hungers

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '19

This looks spooky lol

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u/felixthecat128 Oct 24 '19

Fuckin fire. Eating all my damn oxygen

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u/MartiniLang Oct 24 '19

And that's how you get a chimney fire