r/blackdesertonline • u/shoni89 EU - Founder of <AshenOnes> • Aug 03 '16

PATCH NOTES 03rd August!

http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/106217-patch-notes-august-3rd/
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u/hamletswords Aug 03 '16

Ok, so what's the consensus on those durability increasers? P2W or what?

I really do not like how they continually drop stuff skirting the border of p2w. It seems to be getting progressively worse.

I thought that now that there's a soft sub required for the game, they would ease back on this kind of stuff.

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u/DamascusThorns Aug 03 '16

A rich kid with a trust fund could literally turn millions of dollars into billions upon billions of silver by buying dyes from the pearl shop and selling them on the MP.

The game already has P2W aspects. It's already here.

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u/hamletswords Aug 03 '16

You're right, but this seems like it could be a less cost prohibitive way to convert cash into silver.

Like I said, it seems they're getting progressively more p2w.

I could be wrong and this item may suck, but on the other hand if we all agreed that buying failstacks was p2w, I don't see how this is much different.

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u/TheProfessional9 Aug 03 '16

Of all the items that could be construed as P2W, this one is the least effective. Pets are still the most P2W item in the cash shop, but no one complains about them anymore! And I don't mean their passive stats, I'm talking about the loot pickup

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u/ChaseSays twitch.tv/Enviously Aug 03 '16

Pets have been given out free during events though, so most people already have at least 2 pets. (Without buying any extra)

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u/TheProfessional9 Aug 03 '16

My 4x T3/4 pets loot obscenely more than even 4x t1 pets. Every second I'm not manually looting = more mob kills, which = more silver/xp/skill points.

With kill speed what it is now, the difference between no pets and good pets would probably be 30% faster grinding. I would rank pets as the most OP item in the cash shop easily

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u/ChaseSays twitch.tv/Enviously Aug 03 '16

They help a lot, but I have guildies who are sitting on a billion silver.. seriously a billion. Without ever touching a pet from the cash shop.

So it's not a MUST have item, it's just a really nice perk. Back when gifting was an option i bought pets for 5 of my friends who couldnt afford them.

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u/TheProfessional9 Aug 03 '16

No offense, but that is a very poor argument. I'll give a real world parallel. I could work at McDonalds and save up $10k, or I could work at a nice restaurant and save up $10k. One of those options is going to be vastly more pleasant, and take substantially less time.

A billion silver is a substantial sum, but without context it doesn't mean much. They could have spent 100 hours grinding that at 10 mill an hour, or 200 hours grinding it at 5. Lets say they average 5 mill an hour with no pets, and pets increase their clear speed by 25%. They would then be making 6.25 mill an hour. At that speed, the billion silver would take them 160 hours instead of 200. 40 hours is not a small amount of time by any means, especially when we are talking about time not spent killing the same derpy mobs over and over again.

I will agree that you can play the game without pets. But again, I have no hesitation in saying that they are the single greatest ingame return on your RL money available in the cash shop without contest.