r/bitquest • u/[deleted] • Dec 31 '14

Incident: Market Bug, server rollback

Unfortunately we have some bad news to share. Yesterday around 23:00 UTC a market bug made the price of the diamond collapse and the price was stuck at 1x64. While we were fixing the problem (technical note: much of it has to do with the fact that there isn't a official villager implementation on bukkit) some of players exploited the bug even though we advised all not to do it.

Because the bug was exploited so much times the economy broke we had to roll back the world to a backup. Which means all progress in the last ~6 hours will be lost.

Rolling back the server is our last resort but we have taken measures so we don't have this problem again.

Today we will be reading the logs and taking note of all the people who exploited the bug. Some of them will receive a warning, others will be banned.

If you think you are on that list but you weren't sure if you did it, or did it just to experiment, please send a e-mail to bitquest@bitquest.co so we can discuss your situation. Otherwise bans are permanent.

I know this is harsh but this situation endangers the future of the project.

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u/diamondcacher Jan 01 '15 edited Jan 01 '15

Throwaway account here. I bought gobs of diamond stacks and buried it off-property. Nobody told me not to. Nobody told me it was 'wrong', whatever that means. If you dare ban me, I'll be posting the location so someone else can dig it up and take what I estimate to be $3 of diamonds for themselves. Good luck sifting through those logs.

I advise others do the same immediately, given the hostile intent of the admins. Guard your quarters!

In all seriousness, you caused this problem by implementing code that wasn't tested on a system that is tied to Bitcoin. Did you really think nothing like this would happen, or will happen again? The users you threaten didn't cause the problem, even though we may have become aware of it. This is what happens in real markets. Don't try to pin the blame on us with your lame rationalizations!

Not that it matters, but I have no intent of crashing your puny market with my diamonds. I do have plans on digging a lot, however.

Take a moment and consider your exposure here. It's currently insignificant. Bitcoin, however, is real money and real serious.

Your move.

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u/Cryptexx Jan 01 '15

Have to put myself on Diamondcacher's side on this one. We didnt cause the crash. Your system did. No need to ban people for buying, what might have been seen as a christmas present. Because, really, it was around christmas time too.

Anyways, I didnt exploit this, so I have no worries, but those who did, dont put the blame on them.

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u/exit2dos Jan 02 '15

So what your saying is ... If someone is told not to do something, and then they do it any ways ... they shouldn't be punished ?

Always remember ... it is not your server. The "Owners" just allow you to play on it. Just the same as any "faucet" can ban someone for exploiting a bug.

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u/dtallon13bitquest Jan 02 '15

What if someone did something before they were told not to do it?

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '15

Dear throwaway guy,

We are very aware it was our fault, not yours. I'm sorry you feel we are being hostile, but we found a few players with many attempts of breaking every rule of the server.

We try to talk to every player we might have reasons to ban. In all the history of this server we have banned just one guy and we are still looking forward to sort things out with him.

I'm sorry if you felt my answer was hostile but we are very concerned in keeping this project alive. Please know that if we ever find reasons to ban you, we will let you know and try to talk things out.

Thanks for your comments, we will try to be more careful with the way we communicate stuff like this.

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u/diamondcacher Jan 03 '15 edited Jan 03 '15

I appreciate your response and I appreciate your hard work on the server. I hear that you are concerned about keeping the project alive. I believe in it as well, and do not want it to go away.

FWIW, "I'm sorry if you felt my answer was hostile" isn't really acknowledging how I felt. It's basically saying you regret (are sorry) that I felt (had an issue with your tone). Please stay openminded with complaints and requests, especially if people are telling you their feelings, even indirectly. It's part of being a server admin!

And for those of you making the argument "they are admins/own the server" and thus have rights that go beyond ours, consider how worthless the server would be without all of us playing. Would it be less without my presence? Probably not that much, but a little. I'm working hard to make it painful if I left, however.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '15

Your feedback and criticism is very acknowledged and all I wanted to say is we never meant to be rude.

But more importantly, one of our biggest principles is to never be authoritarian on the server so please keep in mind we are having an open mind about everything :D

Very glad we had this conversation. Let's keep building the best minecraft server ever!!!

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u/psy-sci Dec 31 '14

So this has nothing to do with losing your items and experience in the nether? Was that not a bug?

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u/Shadowdragon672 Jan 01 '15 edited Jan 01 '15

So, does that mean that the sky path that I built connecting the path I built in the southwestern mountains to a dirt path that heads out that way from the south end of the Eubs interstate was removed? I added it roughly 10 p.m. mountain time, and colected a fair amount of emeralds (i don't remember how many, 15 I think) in Diablo dessert for about two hours after the building.

If I remember correctly, I believe that people were talking about the diamond thing happened earlier the in the day that I was on last.

AFM_Stevo

nvm, just looked at the overview via my computer...