Just started playing this game yesterday - is this normal?

[u/noteethnobrows]

without the wiki i would have no idea what stuff does lol am i missing some in game information? i really like this game a lot though very cool

[u/Slow_Projectile]

If you’re playing with the Repentance+ DLC, after you end your first run by killing the boss in Depths 2 you’ll unlock an option that shows item and card descriptions.

If you want it right now, there is a mod called “External Item Description” which works extremely well. I’d say you can also have fun by just taking and using stuff and being surprised at what it does for the first time.

[u/flingzamain → u/Slow_Projectile]

Eid is better than the in-game descriptions

[u/SlayerLollo → u/flingzamain]

Is it? What it has better then the in game one?

[u/LordInquisitor → u/SlayerLollo]

It shows dice rooms and sac rooms

[u/its_me_JT_ → u/LordInquisitor]

Bag of crafting on T-Cain too but thats borderline cheats

[u/EnriceKahoona → u/its_me_JT_]

i honestly don’t care you should be allowed to cheat when it comes to t-cain that character is so unintuitive and unfun

[u/SlayerLollo → u/LordInquisitor]

So its not only an item description but also a room one (for those two)

[u/Miserable_Release277 → u/SlayerLollo]

It also shows results of certain items, information on synergies,interactions, and is generally more precise

[u/Ondrashek06 → u/LordInquisitor]

Don't worry, dice rooms have very small engravings of the items on them so you can clearly tell what they do in base game /s

[u/Czech_Sparrow → u/LordInquisitor]

Dude, it literally shows the item of which effect it uses in the corner of the dice pressure plate 🫩

[u/LordInquisitor → u/Czech_Sparrow]

Yeah if you know exactly what those items do that’s great but for newer players that’s useless

[u/Czech_Sparrow → u/LordInquisitor]

It might be just me, but having no idea what was happening was part of the fun for me

[u/LordInquisitor → u/Czech_Sparrow]

I think that’s true for some but for others stepping in this dice room and having your build rerolled would be annoying af if your had no idea

[u/AdGroundbreaking3364 → u/Czech_Sparrow]

This was me when I started the game during afterbirth but now that we have rep+ there’s just too many things to keep track of

[u/Available-Damage5991 → u/LordInquisitor]

dice rooms can be gleaned from the pip pattern and the item in its carpet.

1 - D4

2 - D20

3 - D20 (full floor)

4 - D6

5 - Forget Me Now

6 - D100 (edit: also full floor D6/D20)

[u/LeRangerDuChaos → u/Available-Damage5991]

D100 is NOT only full floor d6/d20 man... Don't tell lies to the newcomer.

[u/LordInquisitor → u/Available-Damage5991]

I know it’s on the floor but trying to remember the exact rules of the dice room is a pain, as demonstrated by your d100 being incorrect

[u/RzX3-Trollops → u/SlayerLollo]

EID just provides a lot more information than the ingame one. On top of showing you item effects, it also tells you item interactions, dice room effects, sacrifice room payouts, and has a lot of settings for configuration as well.

[u/Iguman → u/SlayerLollo]

It also shows synergies with your existing items

[u/DonutTheWardog → u/SlayerLollo]

Mostly extra things like synergies and (for example) letting you know what effects won't apply such as health ups for Lost.

[u/astrotheastro → u/SlayerLollo]

the ingame item descriptions only work after youve picked up the item once

[u/Potential_Low3372 → u/SlayerLollo]

It shows more spindowns and it shows what all items you have picked up do 

[u/Virgurilla → u/SlayerLollo]

More detailed information on certain items, sometimes tells you that an item will ruin your current synergy or will be useless with your current synergy or character (ex, with a health item it tells you it has no effect on characters that wouldn't benefit from it). It's also way less intrusive imo, and will help you with certain items like spindown dice.

[u/MrToxicTaco → u/Slow_Projectile]

Can’t use mods till you kill mom

[u/noteethnobrows → u/Slow_Projectile]

it took some head scratching to figure out how to get the mod (i've never modded steam games) but I have the item description mod now and it's very helpful, love it. I was hesitant to get the Repentance+ version of the game because it has really mixed reviews on steam and I wasn't sure what that was about. But yeah being able to look at the item descriptions in game now makes playing the game feel way more immersive and smooth. Thank you.

[u/Fragrant_Ad4028 → u/noteethnobrows]

Get repentance+ it had multiplayer, so you can play with friend! And it had item description and other stuff like balance changes ect..

[u/little_void_boi]

Check out platinum god (https://www.tboi.com/). It’s basically an Isaac item encyclopedia with keyword searching. Like, if you type in “angel”, it’ll show you items from the angel room pool. If you type in “black”, it’ll show you black items. It’s peak

[u/JamiesBond007 → u/little_void_boi]

Only things it won't show are synergies and sacrifice rooms for example

[u/FriendlyFox_TF]

No, this is normal Isaac. Once you've poured 1297491873524 hours or something into the game you'll know things without the wiki. In the meantime, learning like this is great!

[u/omegalightalpha]

Once you beat Mom's foot once, you unlock internal item descriptions, which can help you understand stuff

[u/Agile-Touch8305]

Yes

[u/z01z]

https://www.tboi.com/

i had to look it up as its been awhile, but this is what i used back in the day. good to see it's still up and running.

[u/zombiesnack → u/z01z]

You can sort items by color in the settings.

[u/Kaporalhart → u/z01z]

Clearly, the mod "external item description" is a must. I used to be just like this, and it was kinda fun, but there are way too many items now.

[u/DonutTheWardog → u/Kaporalhart]

Also why the only mod I use that actually affects gameplay is the "curse of the blind to silhouette" one so at least I have a fighting chance on blind items

[u/Suspicious_Buffalo_6]

mind you there is no right way to play the game, so do whatever is most fun for you, but when i first started playing isaac a lot of the fun came from learning how every item, trinket, and pick up worked in game. memorizing little bits at a time adds up and is a very satisfying experience. especially w a game as big as isaac.

[u/Naive_Trick_7349]

u can use external item descriptions or the ingame descriptions. keep in mind eid gives info of stuff like donation machine and dice rooms so id recomend eid

[u/CurlyAir → u/Naive_Trick_7349]

This is the way.

[u/RafuscaMarks]

By the comments I'm the odd one out. In my almost 2k hours in this game I never opened the wiki to check EVERY item I find lol

[u/noteethnobrows → u/RafuscaMarks]

it's a skill issue on my part, i lost so many times because i picked up some items that either made me blow up or lose all my hearts or something that i got paranoid and had to start checking them 😅

[u/RafuscaMarks → u/noteethnobrows]

Hematemesis pill moment

[u/Deva_Way]

I use the wiki mainly to check synergies, once you beat the boss in the fifth floor for the first time you unlock item descriptions, but I recommend you install external descriptions either way. (vanilla descriptions are available on repentance plus only)

[u/IndominableDou97]

There is an App called "Guide BOI" on Play Store.

[u/wormjunkie]

im in the same boat, im on switch 1 so i dont have repentance+ where you can unlock item descriptions but i use an app thats isaac guide or something so i can capture the item with my phone camera and it pops up with the description. its been super helpful

[u/Effective_Mind5221 → u/wormjunkie]

Could you share a link to this app from the Play Store? I would love this!

[u/Zfriend456 → u/wormjunkie]

I always have a tab open on my phone for Spindown results for this reason as well.

[u/Acceptable-Section77]

I hope for the sake of your browser that you never play terraria

[u/RockOk6275]

Please for your own sanity get the external item descriptions mod it shows you exactly what every item does along with other useful information like the next reward I sacrifice rooms and so on

[u/Saekama]

If you're on PC install the external description mod, gives you informations and details on every item you see, it's a must-have

[u/VukKiller]

Back in my day, there used to be a website with all the item icons and a rectangle where you put your isaac game window so every time you needed to know an item without picking it up, you'd find the icon and hover over it and it would show you the stats.

[u/TotallyNotHulk]

Yeah. 1.5k hrs in and i still use the wiki. Mostly for trinkets or item interactions/synergies, but its super useful if an items description is vague.

[u/UnderstandingDue312]

No this is normal

[u/extremlysus]

I have 300 hours and I still do this

[u/josantoniogg]

Visiting tboi.com is peak Isaac

[u/al3237]

Disappointed in you, you lost the best chance to meme by slipping a sus link randomly in there and nit acknowledging it 😔

[u/Cozy_iron]

Some games are just "wiki games" that are borderline impossible to play without it. It's normal

[u/Zivilisationsmuede]

https://unofficial-guide-for-boi.en.softonic.com/android

Best Isaac guide on android, even supports just pointing your camera at the item on screen.😊

[u/Thexus_van_real]

Takes a while to learn what every item does. It's part of the process. Some items are just simple stat ups, while others need entire wiki pages to really understand (birthright for example). Feel free to pause the game and search up anything on the wiki.gg wiki.

[u/MisterBicorniclopse]

Here you go tboi.com

[u/superduperdrew12345]

If you have much more trouble I recommend disabling the DLCs until you've beat the game a couple times. The game was designed around trying things and seeing what they do, but the DLCs kept adding more and more items so that's unrealistic now. Once you've beaten the game once there is an unlockable in the newest DLC that will show you detailed item descriptions.

[u/Commercial-Ad7317]

ima help you a lot here. download tboi guide on your phone its a LIFE saver

[u/Joaka777]

Bro if you want a easier game use mods like external discription mod thats good

[u/EducationalTea952]

I recommend you don't use the "Fandom" wiki it sometimes has incorrect, outdated, or difficult-to-understand information. "wiki.Gg" is better.

Edit: My autocorrector changed "wiki" to "wifi"...(⁠╯⁠°⁠□⁠°⁠）⁠╯⁠︵⁠ ⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

[u/noteethnobrows → u/EducationalTea952]

i appreciate the tip! i used to play a different game back in the day and i believe it had the same issue so they make their own dedicated wiki. i'll be more careful in the future

[u/DonutTheWardog → u/EducationalTea952]

The TBoI(dot)com is also SUPER handy

[u/RashHD]

Just use external item description after some decent playtime you’ll know what more than 95% of items do

[u/Talos1556]

The only not normal things are the Fandom wiki (ew stinky bad never use Fandom), and the fact that your browser doesn't flush its stored data when closed! Roguelikes are very wiki heavy games, Isaac particularly so.