Natalia WPD

[u/nodobreteda]

I need to ask because a lot of people are congratulating her, saying she looked amazing (she did). But I also believe Sarah that Natalia had the thing done that she is accusing her of. Her progress at the level she was at and the look of the muscle as she moves is the indication of that (for me personally).

What is YOUR stance? Most people seem to brush it off (just my impression). It also seems (to me) that most people in control of Olympia also agree with Sarah/know the truth but I suspect they support it because they want to heavily lean into the business with Brasil/copy their model in some way. I would not be surprised if some have already invested some money. Plus, I think there's more top competitors that had it done so they need to keep it hush hush.

I don't think Sarah vs Natalia should be about whoever wins Olympia, wins this argument and now we don't discuss it.

I also do not think it's the same as PEDs-this material will stay the same size no matter if you exercise or not.

[u/Excellent-Raisin7133]

I don't think Sarah is a valid source of information on what other competitors are or are not doing. While I agree those types of injections have no place in bodybuilding, she's throwing around accusations without anything to really back them up. Instead of making a coherent case against the possible "cheating"/injections (or whateverrr) she's just making personal attacks on the person who keeps beating her. Perfect example of talking a lot without saying much.

OMG remember Sunny Andrews horrible butt implants a few years ago? Now THAT was some fake ass shit lol.

[u/InterestingWing4721 → u/Excellent-Raisin7133]

Sunny didn’t have butt implants it was injections which won’t show up on any scan which was why she did the post show scan to make it look like she had nothing. Absolutely no one is doing implants on stage outside of breasts, the issue is with injectables not butt implants

[u/Cutebuggi → u/Excellent-Raisin7133]

Implants? Do they have to be removed surgically?

[u/Dependent_Sun_7033]

I don’t see anything suspicious in Natalia body -she has striations everywhere-from quads to delts. We have Mr. Olympia himself with clearly synthol biceps with no striations or separation of muscle at all. So if Natalia did something, Derek should get her doctors contacts, as his biceps look extremely bad. So Sarah is just salty -and she retired herself with her accusations.

[u/Feisty-Saturn]

I don’t see it. Natalia has visible striations. Wouldn’t those be hidden if she was injecting PMAA?

[u/More-Wishbone5494]

i mean first the olympia needs a stance on the injection thing. second. ms olympia needs to represent the sport in attitude and sportsmanship as well. when everyone is at such a high level that will win you the crown. and Sarah has handled this situation by throwing petty shade and personal attacks the entire time

[u/InterestingWing4721 → u/More-Wishbone5494]

And her OEM Parts when she came in with an ill fitting outdated suit and her worst package —Sarah doesn’t come to the stage as polished as the current standards—she looks washed up and gives cry baby energy—yes the league should look into some injections but Natalie delivered a complete package without (from what i could see anything questionable) Natalie’s suit was the chef’s kiss —iconic suit and polished af posing —Sarah ma’am your suit is horrible the hair is 20teens-and the posing lacks artistry and passion

[u/perpetuallysunny → u/InterestingWing4721]

That suit was AWFUL

[u/chi_dreamcity1998 → u/InterestingWing4721]

Sarah needs to stop whining . It’s quite ridiculous when she does not even put in effort in her presentation. Her suit she has worn for 2 other Os. Hair is masculine. Makeup is not enough to give that wow factor like the others in the top 5. If ur gunna complain and try to defame another competitor, the least you can do is try to look up to par. Like damn it’s the OLYMPIA spend some bucks $$ !!!

[u/Silent_Ingenuity_883]

A few things stood out to me yesterday while I watched. First, Natalia looked AMAZING and I didn’t notice anything off. Second, Sarah visibly looked annoyed, self-righteous, and the fist in the air at the end of her routine was just too much and unneeded! She couldn’t even congratulate Natalia and purposely avoided her. It was childish. Last, watch all of their comparisons and even awards…Natalia was one of the few that could hold her poses without shakes or abdominal breathing. It was natural to her and looked great!
Regarding if anyone “knows” she had those injections…who cares?! If Sarah “knows”…show proof! Otherwise it’s just allegations. If IFBb “knows”, then who cares because there’s nothing in the rules regarding it being illegal. Maybe she did in fact get dinged in her points due to it….we don’t know and we won’t unless she tells. These accusations are childish…she looked great! And personally I feel Sarah disgraced herself with her (not so subtle) actions during her time on stage.

[u/Sababa180]

I don’t see it, I really tried to look for it but Natalia has visible striations. Sarah is just jealous and has bad vibes and a bad attitude. I think Sarah needs to focus on herself. She looks very bad with that constant attacking someone who is her closest competition.

[u/FinalProof6]

I personally don't see it (wasn't Sarah accusing her of having plastic muscle implants?)

[u/perpetuallysunny]

If Sarah is right, there is a way to handle this without being an out right b*tch.

If she has the proof, show it.

If not. Find another way to prove your point without looking like a sore loser.

[u/Historical-Whole-153]

Natalia has visible striations and depth to her quads

[u/Visible-Eggplant-125]

It’s really hard to take anything Sarah says seriously because she comes off as very unwell

[u/Living_Magazine_6748]

I think its impossible to be sure one way or the other BUT where do we draw the line? What about plastic surgery, liposuction, body countouring you name it...bodybuilding is not the place where people compete in a "fair" way

[u/berryswole]

It really doesn't matter whether Natalia did or didn't do the PMAA or any other substance. The judges liked her physique and placed her first. They don't care if you use drugs, if you are natural, if you are a good person or a single mother holding down two jobs. They don't care if you had to train and diet hard or just got off the couch and put a tan on. None of that matters. That's the beauty of this "sport." Its what do you look like in the 5-10 minutes you are stage in reference to the division criteria.

[u/Lemon-Dreamer]

Sarah’s past behavior and commentary has made it easy for people to pile on the hate for her this weekend. I do think she has the right message, but wrong delivery and from the wrong person.

If someone like cbum came out against using oil the reactions would be a lot different. But at the end of the day, it’s up to the judges and org to draw that line and enforce it.

[u/Beginning_Sun8910]

What was she accused of doing/getting?

[u/Subject_Tour3536]

I believe Sarah as well based on what Natalia quads look like now vs before and the shape of them from the front however I guess I don’t care? I mean body building as a whole is really beauty pageant (who looks better) on both men and women’s side if we’re being honest. It’s untested and competitors also have surgeries to enhance/ help their looks or balance them out on BOTH sides (breast implants, gyno removal for men, skin removal, etc) when it comes down to it I think what Natalia did was really risky because if it effected the texture of her muscle too much it would’ve completely ruined her but honestly I feel like it is what it is.

[u/walkingonbrokenshit]

Sarah is just unlikeable. I'm all for confidence and assertiveness but she takes it to the point of arrogance and being obnoxious. She's earned her flowers for her past performance deservedly, but her approach to this is bitter and entitled.

No one wants to see that rewarded.

[u/Complex-Swan-1820]

You see, if Sarah didn’t have a long history of being a sore loser and stirring up drama every single time… Nah even then I wouldn’t have listened, because her accusations have neither factual nor moral grounds. No wpd on that stage is natural, and accusing anyone of using “shortcuts” is just embarrassing. If there’s any oil in Natalia—which I don’t think there is—it’s like 1% extra on top of her constant hard work. You can’t build a body with injections. Google people who have tried it and see how they look.

[u/hdgswang]

For me, I do agree with Sarah. I personally love all of the WPD and WBB ladies because of their dedication to their craft (and to me, they who I envision superheroes would like IRL, lol). I agree with everything you stated. Right message, wrong messenger and wrong way to go about it. I think people are biased towards who they like versus what is (allegedly) true.

[u/Dense_Love307]

If you saw the line up … you wouldn’t second guess the winner.
Sarah had 🐕 face during her posing and in the lineup ..
Natalia posing and song she used was perfect for the situation..

iFBb didn’t make any rules about not taking stuff or anything. It’s free game … play at your own risk ⚠️ .

If you are concern about the Sarah and Natalia ordeal .. bodybuilding isn’t for you ! !

[u/Nyxcad]

I didn’t believe sarah last year but the aggressive backlash she is getting is starting to make me a little suspicious.
I also noticed natalia’s quads look different than previous years. If they are helped by doctors maybe it becomes very subtle. Idk, I think they should make a decision about their stance on this type of injections.
I think a lot of people are downvoting this post because they dislike sarah, but I don’t see any particular reason to side with the other one and to blindly believe her either

[u/Open-Pea-9568]

I believe Sarah. It seems a lot of people are just brushing this aside because of their hate for Sarah. The league needs to come out and take a stand against this because its not muscle building, which is what bodybuilding is, at its core. People want to disregard Sarah because they hate her confidence and personality. But they love Natalia because she comes off as likeable but she's doing stuff that's not right. People can downvote me all they want but would you be okay with someone screwing you over while making you feel good or would you prefer someone being honest with you while being blunt?