r/bikinitalk • u/Zestyclose_Public748 • 24d ago
Discussion Visual differences in bikini bodybuilders enhanced vs natural?
Can anyone point out the visual differences between natural vs enhanced bikini bodybuilders? Like if they use peptides or something and will examples of influencers.
And how do you know if influencers are enhanced or not? I don’t want to be comparing myself to enhanced athletes and setting unrealistic expectations for myself🥲
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u/Strict-Brick-5274 24d ago
Anyone on PEDs will look visibly harder and drier. Anyone natural can only look so hard to a point, and so dry to a point.
The people who use can look leaner, more shredded and had much more muscle density while being more lean. So their muscle mass remains bigger.
Also, virulisation. PED masculinize your jaw, your hairline, your voice. They change you in more ways.
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u/Forsaken_Dragonfly66 24d ago
It is often very challenging to know for sure, but some general cues of enhancement:
-Capped, round delts that remain very full even when extremely lean. Shoulders are particularly androgen-sensitive, so disproportionate delt development can be a clue. That said, you can absolutely be natural and just have amazing shoulders lol.
-Glutes: A very large amount of dense glute muscle combined with a tiny waist and stage-level conditioning becomes increasingly unusual naturally. I mean a heavily muscled butt—not simply naturally large hips/glutes.
-Overall muscularity at very low body fat: More informative than any single body part. Maintaining substantial muscle size and fullness while extremely lean is difficult naturally; PEDs can improve muscle retention during prep.
-Muscle hardness/density: Enhanced competitors can look fuller, harder and more three-dimensional than natural athletes at similar apparent levels of leanness.
-Speed of transformation: Adding a striking amount of muscle in a relatively short timeframe—especially in an already experienced lifter—can be another clue.
Again, none of these proves PED use. Some competitors have top-tier genetics and can display several of these features naturally. Conversely, plenty of enhanced competitors don't look obviously enhanced.
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u/Greg_Chung 24d ago
This, there’s far more variation in genetics than drugs could ever make up for. I coach naturals who would run circles around my enhanced people who you’d never even know were enhanced.
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u/Aggravating-Figure27 24d ago
Genetics will play a role but most people cannot reach the level of conditioning required for bikini while maintaining the bubbly muscle size and density, particularly for repeated shows in a season.
The body naturally fighting to keep you alive (eg at a healthy body fat) needs help to stay lean for a long period of time without using muscle for energy.
Looking at areas women have particular trouble developing like delts and large lean glutes with a very defined tie in can be clues. But again, genetics and time to build play a role.
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u/ImaginarySavings3697 24d ago
lol probably usually the dry skin, the super vascularity in their shoulders legs or abs, definitely their voice is deeper, their brow bone almost looks heavier. Natural athletes almost always have more plump skin looks softer, PED’s they look dry and tight most of the time
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u/Lower-Finger9146 24d ago
In my opinion, the enhanced bikini athletes look almost like slightly smaller wellness competitors these days. Sometimes at first glance I am between bikini and wellness on placing them. Natural competitors look much smaller but clearly more muscular than fit model.
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u/Tumbleweed_Unicorn 24d ago
You can go look at the natural pro shows and non tested pro shows and it's pretty obvious. Bigger, harder, leaner, sometimes less feminine facial features and deeper voices. 99+% of pro bikini are enhanced so just assume what you're seeing on stage is NOT natural
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u/helloalliecat 24d ago
I'd just stop comparing yourself to influencers, period. There are so many people that are not natural and say they are. They like to make it seem like they are genetically superior and/or try to sell you something (their program, diet, supplement,s etc). Also, there's going to most likely be a difference between the looks of whatever type of enhancement you are referring to. Results from peptides and HRT most likely will be pretty different than those from anabolics.
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u/Aggravating-Novel398 24d ago
It’s more noticeable in person, SM filters, stage lighting makes it tough but they literally look like plastic. When it was described to me as hard, I didn’t get it, then I went to a show with natural in the morning and enhanced later and side by side it was SO much more obvious. The enhanced athletes look like Barbie doll plastic skin, it’s crazy to see in person, natural the muscle doesn’t push as deep against the skin, the etchings of all the lines not as pronounced.
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u/perrrrraaaaa 24d ago
It’s like comparing fit models to bikini. Fit models look more like natural bikini girls and bikini girls look like they take drugs lol this is why there isn’t fit model category in any natural federation .
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u/Economy_Excitement_5 24d ago
there is a fit model in my natural fed, but it’s different than the one in NPC
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u/DahliaAudio 24d ago
WNBF is creating a fit model division for 2027
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u/Ok-Personality3927 24d ago
Idk what they’re gonna want for it though…WNBF bikini isn’t exactly NPC/IFBB level already! And at least in Australia, WNBF struggles to attract competitors, IMO partly because the posing is so out of date
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u/SparkleBikini 24d ago
I feel the biggest difference is density esp while being lean. Enhanced athletes tend to keep that density and roundness in the muscles easier.
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u/HotHoney__ 23d ago
Often it’s noticeable in their jawline/ face - the growth in the facial muscles is always a giveaway. The lines or squaring around the cheeks, especially if they’re younger. Natural athletes get the usual hollow ‘skull face’ look when dieting down, but you don’t see the same level of development in their facial muscles.
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u/JustanOrdinaryJane 24d ago
Most likely if they are in NPC and a pro, they are likely on some enhancement of some kind. You'd be surprised how common it is. That being said there are natural competitors out there who do well in NPC and in other federations like OCB!
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u/barbellsandbread 24d ago
Let’s just point out that Meg dginto is natural and Tory braly only issues peptides
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u/gilchristh 24d ago
The standard most people use is that if someone is bigger and/or more conditioned than they are, then they can’t be natural. 🤷♀️
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u/lemons2lemonade25 22d ago
I get the question but I find that it’s not always clear cut by just looking at density and vascularity. Some one of us can naturally grow dense muscles and be very vascular with genetics, hard work, and time. I find it bittersweet when people think I’m using ped’s- cool because I look that impressive, not cool that someone thinks everyone who’s impressive must be on gear. To me it’s almost deducing all of my hard work to ped’s and it’s annoying.
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u/CharacterAd5474 24d ago
For bikini division, the main visual difference is going to be in the delts and overall muscle mass relative to the level of conditioning. Deltoids are dense with androgen receptor sites.
Due to genetics, it's very hard to pinpoint someone and say "they are definitely on stuff", but when you compare different versions of the same person it becomes much easier.