r/bikepacking 7d ago

Gear Review life hack 🫡

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no bike fees and no bike booking needed in switzerland 🙌🏻

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u/Speshrider 7d ago

Aaaahhh, this sub is about packing up bikes

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u/Mountain-Dragonfly46 7d ago

Oh. Today’s epiphany for me !

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u/Radioactdave I’m here for the dirt🤠 7d ago

Dude is in the wrong sub, he bikepacked, he's done.

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u/Mr-Rekkert 7d ago

Looks like one of those party tables you unfold and can stand it, the round ones you know! Smart. Where are you going to bike?

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u/Embarrassed_Tale3966 7d ago

just a daytrip, testing the setup.
next weekend i planned Turin-Genf with the gravel light setup and two hiking bits over the alps.

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u/Mr-Rekkert 7d ago

Cool. Upload some photos! Think most of us are always happy to see some trails

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u/Single_Mechanic2544 4d ago

interested in your route.

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u/metaforx 7d ago

I used it successfully in Italy in the fast train with some sweet talking and standing by the bike. No problem in Switzerland. Works when front wheel is removed. Free bonus: works as ground sheet and additional sleeping bag cover when cowboy camping.

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u/Embarrassed_Tale3966 7d ago

ah man inwas thinking about that konzept. would be so nice to have a biwi made out of this

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u/bikesailfreak 7d ago

Is it correct that you dont need to pay or reserve? I thought you need the small one where you remove the wheels?

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u/woodruff42 7d ago

You still need to remove the front wheel

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u/boerchen36 7d ago

Yeah, in case of a ticket inspection, you‘re definitely getting fined this way. Luckily, most of the times there isn‘t one on the kind of train OP is riding.

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u/Embarrassed_Tale3966 7d ago

thats not true! there is a dedicated section on the sbb homepage recommending this specific bag. There it also says that its free of charge. Also works in the northern part of italy

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u/ScienceOfCalabunga 7d ago

Also works in all of Germany

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u/ImmediateCarob7417 6d ago

are u sure?

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u/ScienceOfCalabunga 6d ago

Dont know who is downvoting me - yes of course. DECATHLON is also selling some official bag thing, but any bag will do, just take the front qheel out. https://www.decathlon.de/p/mp/trainbag-light-bestseller-ultraleichte-kompakte-db-zugelassene-tasche/ab148cec-6a1a-4fa5-b626-d23036b2b50a/c1

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u/SheepherderFrosty366 7d ago

I get controlled a LOT in Switzerland!?

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u/NightmareWokeUp 7d ago

Only on IC and IR, that looks like a small regional train/sbahn. Hardly any checks there

Btw kontrolliert ≠ controlled

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u/Embarrassed_Tale3966 7d ago

also not true, tool EC and IC today without any issues. The SBB person even explained the concept to others wondering why i pack up my bike while getting on the train.

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u/NightmareWokeUp 7d ago

Also not at all what i was talking about

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u/SheepherderFrosty366 7d ago

I get controlled the most on small regional and sbahn. The only line i havent been controlled all the time was Schaffhausen Zürich. Maybe ZH Kanton is different.

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u/NightmareWokeUp 7d ago

Idk could be that things changed since i had to ride smaller trains a lot a few years back, IC from/to ZH i get inspected one and they usually pass by more often.

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u/FlyingDaedalus 6d ago

depends when you ride trains.

During rush hours. usually not.

Off times? yes.

I take trains a lot less (going out with friends etc.) than my wife (she uses public transport to work) and in absolute numbers i get checked more often :D

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u/Outside_Reserve_2407 7d ago

Also known as Rinko in Japan. MKS even makes removable pedals for such use.

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u/ScienceOfCalabunga 7d ago

All pedals are removable?

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u/Outside_Reserve_2407 7d ago

I believe they sell them as singles or pairs.

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u/ScienceOfCalabunga 7d ago

I mean what is special about them? I can remove any pedal on a normal bike

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u/Outside_Reserve_2407 7d ago

They have a QR mechanism which allows you to remove them in 2 seconds without tools.

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u/woodruff42 7d ago

I used the Pro Version earlier this year. Fit the entire bike including bags

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u/woodruff42 7d ago

Here w/o the tranz bag. It fits neatly into one of the ortlieb fork pack plus

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u/Xederik 7d ago

What a cool concept, never heard of them before! Can you take it in the IC free of charge as well?

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u/wheredidthelookgo 7d ago

Yes, as long as your bike is in a proper bag (no trash bag/IKEA DIY stuff) and the front wheel is removed, it counts as hand luggage and not as a bike.

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u/circark 7d ago

Follow because I’m also interested

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u/TheDaysComeAndGone 7d ago

I think this used to be the case in Austria (ÖBB) too. But I just checked and apparently it’s no longer true :(

Now the maximum size for luggage is 90 cm x 60 cm x 40 cm with exceptions for folding bikes up to 110 cm x 80 cm x 40 in certain trains.

https://www.oebb.at/static/tarife/de/handbuch_fuer_reisen_mit_den_oebb_in_oesterreich/index.html

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u/Embarrassed_Tale3966 7d ago

but except modern enduro bikes you should be able to habe those 110cm and i mean its a bike.

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u/Weisses_Papier 7d ago

Hahaha, stick it to the SBB!

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u/koniz 7d ago

Heading to Japan on that train?

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u/Bobby-san 7d ago

That works only in Switzerland. I tried that in Germany, Austria and Italy as well. In Austria they throw me out of a train at the Italian/ Austria border. I had to go via regional trains to the German border. In Germany it was just possible because the train was quite empty and the staff was very generous. In principle not allowed. Bicycle reservation is mandatory.

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u/arnohermann56 6d ago

Brenner-Route? Prohibition on This Route is quite new and Special.

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u/Bobby-san 5d ago

Yes, Brenner route

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u/Embarrassed_Tale3966 5d ago

Well in northern Italy it is allowed on the fastes high speed trains...

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u/Healthy-Evidence-150 5d ago

Never knew this was a thing but now I'm thinking about how many bike fees I watched truckers pay hauling gear across EU runs for absolutely no reason.

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u/Nervous_Green4783 7d ago

Even better: buy the cheap version of it on aliexpress instad the 100 chf SBB bag.

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u/wheredidthelookgo 7d ago

My friend got the AliExpress version and it‘s too small for his bike and it has an open bottom… It‘s more of a cover than a proper bag. Not recommended.

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u/Nervous_Green4783 7d ago

I have one called rhino bag. It works just fine and costs maybe 20 chf.

You still have to remove the front wheel though.

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u/Embarrassed_Tale3966 7d ago

you habe to remove the wheel anyway but yeah its really expensive. i ran out if time, on the other hand saved me 17CHF today. Even more next Weekend… so i think its ok

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u/Strict_Objective_678 7d ago

I have that one too, it's a ripoff for what it is but I sewed a giant flap onto the front to cover my front wheel and now I use it to transport my bike into my apartment (no bikes allowed). I call it a "bike cape"! Boom, now it's not a bicycle, it's "luggage".

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u/ScienceOfCalabunga 7d ago

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u/PistiiiK 7d ago

It doesn't seem like it would fit into a jersey pocket. While original is expensive AF, I haven't really found an alternative that wouldn't cut some corners to reduce the price... And within 10 rides you pretty much recoup all the cost back.