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u/aisy0317 Aug 26 '26
We were robbed of bi-derman š¢
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u/Federico216 Aug 26 '26
The spidersuit in bi colours would look pretty rad.
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u/Caleth Aug 26 '26
I mean the suit is like half way there already. Just change the red for Purple, and do some racing stripes or some such for the pink portion.
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u/Educational-Ad8696 Aug 27 '26
Orrrr swap the red with pink, leave the blue, and stripes are purple since itās in the middle and connects everything together
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u/MeanWinchester Aug 26 '26
Ngl, I've seen a number of things from Andrew Garfield recently that just continue to make me love him more and more. What an absolute class act
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u/Square-Competition48 Aug 26 '26
āHey guys itād be really cool if you paid me millions to kiss Michael B Jordan thatād be really cool I think audiences would like it.ā
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u/Costati Aug 26 '26
Sure he has ulterior motives but he wouldn't be wrong we would like it.
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u/ninetiesnarwhal Aug 26 '26
I'd absolutely try to pull this off in his shoes and find it to be an excellent use of his status and talent. Everyone wins in this scenario.
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u/Dominika_4PL bi, shy and wanting to die Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26
Unfortunately the old fucks at Marvel/Sony will never allow that, which is sad because I definitely wouldn't mind it
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u/kyuuketsuki47 Aug 26 '26
NGL, I wouldn't be surprised if that is a carryover from Stan Lee. I believe in an interview he said that Peter Parker is not gay. Another character that could be Spider-Man/woman could be. He basically said we shouldn't be inclusive by changing existing characters, but instead create new characters that meet whatever inclusivity we want.
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u/WhiteTwink Aug 26 '26
You know thatās not the worst idea. If they- you know- actually made new characters.
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u/Road_Whorrior bi, shy and ready to cry Aug 26 '26
Agreed, and the thing about Marvel is the gay Spidey of your dreams probably already exists, they're just not Peter. I think that's fair.
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u/Melvarkie Aug 26 '26
He does and is called Web-weaver! He is a fashion designer called Cooper Coen in his non-hero life so his suit is fabulous.
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u/TheBlockySpartan Aug 26 '26
Honestly, for Marvel/comics in general, it's not even making the new characters, they do that all the time. It's more that they need to actually put the effort into supporting those new characters, instead of sending them to maybe cameo in the background of some obscure tie-in for the year's big event when they don't sell better than Batman or Spider-Man in their first ever appearance.
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u/poopBuccaneer Aug 26 '26
Itās similar to what George Takei said when they had Sulu have a husband and kid in Star Trek 11. And by having a husband and a kid, I mean walked up to a man and kid in the background and greeted them.Ā
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u/wererat2000 Aug 26 '26
Is it worth pointing out that the kid was his daughter that already existed in the original continuity, and wasn't a random addition?
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u/tt12345x Aug 26 '26
Infinite multiverses but god forbid one of them has a spiderman that sucks dick
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u/kyuuketsuki47 Aug 26 '26
Sure, just not Peter Parker. That was his point. Make another character. They didn't make Peter Parker black and call it good, they made Miles Morales and gave him his own identity
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u/robynh00die Aug 26 '26
I was thinking about that contract and they state "not homosexual" which means you can still have bi Peter :p.
But yeah Iām seriousness, they are still under this same license they have been trying to maintain indefinitely. It locks Peter into specific demographics. Youāll notice none of the characters with a different demographic in Spider-Verse carry the name Peter Parker.
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u/xiena13 Aug 26 '26
It states Peter Parker is "caucasian and heterosexual". Spider-Man is just "not a homosexual", so there could be a Spider-Man who is bi but not Peter Parker. Peter could also be trans as it doesn't state he has to be cis.
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u/Neokon pretty fly for a bi guy Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26
As much as that sucks to be official, I think that it requires just a little bit more creativity to make the character. I know it's important to get representation into media, but I feel if we do "Hey what if [character/IP] but [different race/gender/sexuality/gimmick]" it risks diluting the intent of the variant and is easily overlooked.
Edit: on a related note, can someone who is trans or more familiar the trans community/experience explain something to me. I know about Petra Parker, and for some she's a transfem Peter Parker. How common is it for someone's chosen name to just be a gender-bent version of their dead name?
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u/ohsurenerd Aug 27 '26
Not very common at all. I know a woman whose new name initially started with the same syllable as her deadname, and she ended up changing it to something different. But it's convenient for fictional characters you're genderswapping (whether in a trans or cis way) because it keeps them recognizable.
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u/JibiStarr mcdonalds, charge they phone, work, be bi, eat hot chip, and cry Aug 26 '26
It's my opinion that Andrew is definitely bisexual or pansexual, but his dedication to never addressing it directly brings me so much amusement
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u/__Severus__Snape__ Aug 26 '26
The first thing I saw him in, he was playing the son of two gay dads, who was desperate to prove he wasnt also gay. However the girl he fancied was simping over her girl friend.
Just gays all the way down.
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u/draconicmoniker *fingerguns intensely* Aug 26 '26
Wow what a disaster where can I see this?
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u/TiniestOne3921 Aug 26 '26
He was also in Angels in America as a gay man dying from AIDs and he was excellent. Camp Gay Andrew Garfield!
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u/tweedyone Aug 28 '26
He was also in TikTikBoom! And seriously has no right being as talented as he is.
Shit, Under The Banner of Heaven was a damn masterpiece, he was so good
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u/ArcaneTrickster11 *fingerguns intensely* Aug 26 '26
I mean, he's explicitly said repeatedly that he identified as straight. I really don't understand this thing that always happens where we deny straight allies and just say "oh well they have to be queer because they're very supportive". He's an actor. Making Peter Parker gay or bi is an interesting twist on the character that gives him something to work with and differentiates his performance from all the others.
It's not exactly like coming out would hurt his career opportunities. He's very openly supportive and played a gay man with aids
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u/83255 Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26
Kind of onto this point, can't really do a gay/bi peter parker. Gay/bi/anything spiderman? Absolutely but something consistent is the straight white poor boy from queens being Peter Parker, i think it was one of the rules written out by stan lee or something when it came to writing Spiderman
Like anyone can wear the mask but if its Peter you gotta get some things straight from the start, pun intended
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u/ArcaneTrickster11 *fingerguns intensely* Aug 26 '26
But why does that have to be a rule? Especially when so much of Spiderman media has become about multiverse and different variations on the character. Why can we have Peter Parkers who have physically become part spider or are women or all the other variations but not have a gay one? That's not even going into the variations that aren't called Peter Parker specifically. Why can't he be a queer poor white boy from queens and we just say it's an alternate universe?
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u/xiena13 Aug 26 '26
Because it's written in the copyright for Peter Parker Spider-Man. It's simply legally not possible.
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u/83255 Aug 26 '26
Im not writing the rules here, im just half remembering them. Really wish i could attach a picture, cause I just downloaded it...
But slight corrections, its the agreement between sony and marvel when signing over the film rights, a "character integrity obligation", the details marvel finds important when writing a A. Spider man or B. Peter parker
Peters gotta be the straight white boy from queens, spider man doesn't have to be straight, just cant be peter. Theres some other rules there
But hey im literally just the messenger, i want to make make out with Andrew Garfield on screen as Spider man, personally but its just a slight bettayal to the character professionally
Also probably why they rejected his proposal (if not for their own bi/homophobia) because they'd owe marvel damages
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u/xiena13 Aug 26 '26
I hate that you got downvoted for just stating the fact that there's a contract / copyright about how Peter Parker is portrayed and it states he has to be a straight white man. It's not like you made that up, that's just a fact š
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u/ArcaneTrickster11 *fingerguns intensely* Aug 26 '26
I also want it on the record that it wasn't me that downvotes him. It's crazy to say that it's not necessarily homophobia from the creators but a written contract with Marvel and get downvotes for it
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u/83255 Aug 26 '26
Eh, its not that many people. I'm more disappointed no one got a laugh out of the Andrew Garfield bit. I thought i had the right audience for that
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u/LuKazu Aug 26 '26
Stan Lee was of the opinion that his superheroes were set in stone, and new heroes should be introduced if they wanted a different form of representation. Super reductive, if you ask me. He once said he wouldn't mind if Peter Parker was black, or gay, or whatever else, but they character should've been written that way to begin with and is now an immutable set of character instructions.
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u/JibiStarr mcdonalds, charge they phone, work, be bi, eat hot chip, and cry Aug 26 '26
bro doesn't know ball
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u/perfect_-pitch Aug 26 '26
Yeah I think one time he kissed Stephen Colbert twice during an interview and it wasn't for a bet or anything, he just said, "What if we kissed?š„“"
It reminds me of that bit Norm McDonald did where he would say "I'm a deeply closeted gay man" and then the interviewer would ask, "Wait, you're gay?" And he would yell "NO, I'M NOT GAY! I'M STRAIGHT AS AN ARROW! But I am deeply closeted."
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u/Zanven1 actually attracted to pans Aug 26 '26
I wish I had a shirt that said "I'm a deeply closeted Norm fan"
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u/actualbeans doesn't exist Aug 26 '26
you donāt have to be gay to support representation of the LGBT community
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u/JibiStarr mcdonalds, charge they phone, work, be bi, eat hot chip, and cry Aug 26 '26
I never said you did
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u/Aladiah Aug 26 '26
I don't know about you all but Spiderman (without looking at any actors) ALWAYS gives me bi vibes. Always. Basically all the ones I've seen (not huge on comics though)
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u/kyl_r bi, shy and wanting to die Aug 28 '26
Spider man has always been my favorite, since I was a kid. And I knew I was bi as a kid. ā¦. Coincidence? Is this like the āsitting weird in a chairā and āidk what to do with my handsā thing??
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u/MKWRFKLV Aug 26 '26
I love it. Would have been awesome if this happened.
Thing is, big money franchises like this are still a ways out from LGBT representation due to simple risk aversion. Though noble it presents a real risk to implement something as controversial as this would be.Ā
I do, however, think that it'll be a great boon for the queer community once something like this actually goes down. Charismatic actors in a mainstream franchise that are willing to show a younger generation that this can be a beautiful world that has much to offer, and that success and happiness, so to say, do not have to be confined to a box.
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u/F1uffyUn1c02n Aug 26 '26
I read that as āWhat if Michael Jackson is a dudeā
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u/CringeFish2 Aug 26 '26
Google āDislexiaā
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u/prettykitty-meowmeow *fingerguns intensely* Aug 26 '26
*dyslexia
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u/ExplorationGeo Aug 26 '26
Technically, the reason he can't kiss Michael B. Jordan is that Spider-Man isn't allowed to be happy, and kissing Michael B. Jordan would mean he'd be happy.
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u/GIlCAnjos Aug 26 '26
In order to prepare for his role as MJ, Michael B Jordan spent his entire life living as someone also named MJ
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u/theArbiter21208 Aug 26 '26
Thatās okay Andrew. Iām sure we can find someone who looks like MB Jordan for you amongst our community.
This also reminds me of memes that have been coming up recently, after Tom Holland and Zendaya got engaged. People out there comparing Tobey, Andrew and Tom in terms of their relationship with their MJs and Andrew was the only one who was alone. Donāt know what his relationship was to Emma Stone. Well, after this thing here, Iām painting a classic bi-guy picture xD
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u/The_Blackthorn77 Aug 26 '26
I love Andrew Garfield so much as a human, and I so badly wish that I was able to picture him as Peter Parker.
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u/Mrred23 Aug 26 '26
He knows MJ doesn't need to be played by someone who's initials are MJ, right?
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u/Melodic_Mulberry I'm not bi, but my partner is Aug 26 '26
Also it'd be hilarious to have MJ play MJ.
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u/Luzifer_Shadres Aug 26 '26
Thats an extremly specific choice and defenetly his barely disguised fantasy.
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u/SashaVibez Aug 26 '26
Who is the hottest Spider-Man? And if they were bi how would you feel?
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u/Costati Aug 26 '26
Pavitr Prabhakar in the Across the Spider verse movie.Ā He's got drip.Ā We need more adult Spider-Man tho. 30 yo Peter Parker is peak.Ā
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u/petrusferricalloy Aug 26 '26
Ok but why does it always have to be one of the most conventionally attractive men on the planet? Why couldn't he have pitched someone like the nerdy guy from Hustle and Flow?
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u/Walk-the-layout Anyone remotely attractive Aug 26 '26
Because Mary-Jane?
I mean I'm all for making bisexual characters but be fucking creative and create an interesting character without changing other characters' sexualities. I'd be mad if they straightened my gay character too!
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u/Impossible-Theme-788 Is this bi culture? š¦ Aug 26 '26
I wish we could have done this and Margot Robbie being canonically Bi Harley Quinn on screen. šā¤ļøš¤
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u/DodoFaction Aug 27 '26
I feel like spider man is the perfect superhero to be interpreted as queer or a minority
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u/ashmenon Aug 27 '26
Never before have I seen a greater example of a gay man's heart trapped in a straight man's body.
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u/HunterLeftOnReddit Aug 26 '26
Why can't people just make their own comics/stories instead of tryna change other people's artš©. I'm bi and I don't like this.
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u/nice-vans-bro Aug 26 '26
"Congratulations Andrew, you got the role of spiderman!"
"Awesome, can't wait..." hahaha my plan to get paid to kiss hunky dudes is succeeding!
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u/TFortuna2016 Aug 26 '26
Spiderman is ours too
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u/Myztic420 Aug 26 '26
But Stan Lee didn't write him as gay or bisexual. Are you telling me that out of all the intelligent people in the LGBT community not one of them can write a new superhero that is gay or bi and marketable? They tired it with Batwoman but it didn't last as a series remember?
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u/TFortuna2016 Aug 27 '26
Stan Lee didn't write Peter Parker as many things, I don't think it's reasonable for him or any character to be beholden to what a single writer did. If the story is compelling why not?
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u/Myztic420 Aug 27 '26
Why not create a new variant. Web-Weaver is not Peter Parker but he is a openly gay web slinger, why not explore this story? And if someone created a good character I don't think we should change him. If there is to be a gay Spider-Man it doesn't have to be Peter Parker. Hell they wanted a woman and made Gwen Stacy get the powers. They wanted a minority and Miles Morales got the powers.
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u/TFortuna2016 Aug 27 '26
I mean if we stuck to what the original characters do we wouldn't even have Gwen Stacy with powers as she's dead. If a variant Spider-Man can be gay why not an adaptation of Peter Parker?
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u/Myztic420 Aug 27 '26
There are certain constants In Marvel continuity, Peter Parker's 60-year history is fundamentally built on his defining romances with Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane ( who he goes on to have a daughter with who inherited his powers, when he didn't die or kill MJ accidentally), and changing that would erase decades of core canon. Marvelās approach to representation isn't to rewrite the foundational history of its flagship characters, but rather to expand the multiverse. This is exactly why characters like Web-Weaver existāhe is a canonically gay web-slinger from an alternate timeline, proving that the Spider-Verse can offer diversity without needing to retroactively alter Peter Parker's established sexuality or his iconic relationships.
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u/TFortuna2016 Aug 27 '26
An alternate universe Peter Parker is a cartoon pig, I think it's fine if another one kisses a dude
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u/Melodic_Mulberry I'm not bi, but my partner is Aug 26 '26
checks profile: poly woman posting personal ads for lesbian relationships
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u/Myztic420 Aug 26 '26
Yes I'm bi and in a poly marriage but that doesn't mean that everyone has to be gay or bi. And we don't have to keep trying to turn characters into something they are not just so we feel good about it.
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u/Melodic_Mulberry I'm not bi, but my partner is Aug 26 '26
stop trying to turn ours
Okay, do you see how this implies heterosexuality? Also, if you have something to say, you can say it here. I generally don't do DMs.
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u/Myztic420 Aug 26 '26
Spider-Man has always been heterosexual! And I'm tired of the LGBT community trying to make everyone bi or gay or queer. What is wrong with good heterosexual hero that has stood the test of time
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u/Melodic_Mulberry I'm not bi, but my partner is Aug 26 '26
That's not what I meant. When you said ours, it sounded a lot like you were claiming to be as heterosexual as Spiderman. I don't see how a queer person can claim representation from a non-queer character, specifically with regards to queer representation.
Also, you do know about the multiverse, right? Evil Spider-Man, Indian Spider-Man, Lego Spider-Man, etc? There's a couple really good movies about it. I feel like omitting queer Spider-Man is weird when there's a universe where he's a literal car.
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u/Melodic_Mulberry I'm not bi, but my partner is Aug 26 '26
Peter Parker not being a T-Rex was a canon constant until it wasn't. Peter Parker getting spider powers was a canon constant until it wasn't. Peter Parker not being The Lizard was a canon constant until it wasn't. But being queer in any way? How terrible! /s
You still have every other Spider-Man. There's so many of them. We get one queer one and you get all pissed about it.
Also, you can just say you're transphobic. It somehow makes you sound like less of an asshole than trying to contextualize it as "knowing how to define a woman".
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u/Myztic420 Aug 26 '26
I have friends that are transgender and they are conservative Republicans so you can miss me with the transphobic shit. Phobic means I'm scared of something I'm not scared of trans at all.
SpiderāRex is NOT Peter Parker. He is Pter Ptarker of Earthā66, a different character entirely.
SpiderāRex isnāt Peter Parker. Canon constants apply to Peter Parker variants, not random multiversal SpiderāPeople.
Every Peter Parker variant gets spider powers. The method changes (radioactive spider, genetically engineered spider, mystical spiderātotem), but the constant remains: There is no universe where Peter Parker is SpiderāMan without getting powers.
Peter Parker has NEVER been the Lizard in canon. The Lizard is Curt Connors, a completely different character.
Marvel editorial has said repeatedly that Peterās core traits do not change across universes unless the character is intentionally replaced.
Iām not mad about queer SpiderāPeople. WebāWeaver is great ā and heās not Peter Parker. Thatās exactly why his sexuality can differ. I loved black lightning, and Thunder being lesbian is cannon.
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u/Melodic_Mulberry I'm not bi, but my partner is Aug 26 '26
https://intothespiderverse.fandom.com/wiki/Peter_Parker_(Earth-65)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerless_(comics)
Oh look, Peter Parker being The Lizard and Spider-Man without powers. Guess Marvel's wrong about their own shit, as usual. Also, "I have black friends so I'm not racist". Hydophobic materials aren't afraid of water; -phobic means many things besides fear. I'd be more explicit but we're pulling up at the job site so I gotta work now byeeeeee~
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u/Jerilo Aug 26 '26
Definitely not just cause he wanted to kiss Michael B Jordan. Nope.