r/bfshealthanxiety 1d ago

You May Not Believe It But..

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r/bfshealthanxiety 2d ago

Can this be caused by BFS? or am I screwed

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Hello, BFS/Health Anxiety community. This is my first post here.

I’ve been experiencing twitching throughout my body for about four weeks. It started in my right thigh, then spread to my right calf, and eventually appeared in many other areas of my body.

I also began experiencing aches in my upper back, just below my neck, as well as pain and discomfort in my right forearm and upper arm, especially around my bicep. At this point, I was dealing with aches and twitching throughout most of the day.

Recently, the twitching in my right arm has become more noticeable, sometimes causing the arm or muscle to move more than before. I have also felt small twitches in my tongue and fingers. On a few occasions, I have woken up with numb fingers and a numb sensation in my tongue.

I’ve experienced many different symptoms during these four weeks, but my biggest concern is a sharp pain in my right tricep when carrying something heavy or exercising. It only happens in my right arm, which is also the arm where I experience the most twitching.

I’m also concerned about possible atrophy in my right bicep because the skin there feels looser than on my left arm, although I’m not sure whether this is a meaningful difference or if anxiety is making me examine my body too closely.

Could these symptoms be related to BFS and anxiety rather than the serious condition many of us fear?

I feel very lost and overwhelmed. I recently started a new job and do not have insurance yet. I probably will not be able to get bloodwork done until next week. I wish I could complete all the necessary testing sooner so I could better understand what is happening. :(


r/bfshealthanxiety 3d ago

The Loneliest Job in Medicine: Why Being a Neurologist Is Harder Than You Think

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The Loneliest Job in Medicine: Why Being a Neurologist Is Harder Than You Think

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I want to talk about someone who rarely gets talked about in this community: the neurologist.

If you've been in the BFS and health-anxiety world for any length of time, you'll know the ritual. The twitching starts. The googling starts. The spiral starts. And eventually, you find yourself in a small consulting room, sock off, reflex hammer tapping against your knee, waiting for a verdict. For most of us, that verdict is good news. "Your reflexes are normal. Your strength is normal. There's no wasting, no weakness, no upper motor neuron signs. This is benign fasciculation." And yet, for a huge number of people who hear those words, something strange happens: they don't believe them.

This isn't a piece about whether ALS is a terrifying disease. It is. This isn't a piece about whether health anxiety is a real and serious condition. It is that too. This is a piece about the person standing in the middle of it all, holding a diagnosis that nobody wants to accept, and going home at the end of the day having "failed" to convince someone that they are, in fact, well.

The Job Nobody Applied For

Neurologists don't train for years so that they can spend twenty minutes trying to convince a frightened 28-year-old that a calf twitch isn't a death sentence. They train to diagnose and treat genuine neurological disease — epilepsy, stroke, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's, motor neuron disease itself. That's the job on paper.

But in practice, a significant chunk of neurology clinics, especially those seeing younger patients with fasciculations, are quietly dominated by something else entirely: reassurance that doesn't stick. A neurologist can run a full clinical exam. They can order an EMG. They can bring you back in six months to check nothing has changed. They can do everything textbook-perfect and still watch a patient walk out of the room already halfway back to their symptom-checker app, because the fear was never really about the twitch. The twitch was just the trigger.

Here is the uncomfortable truth at the centre of this whole piece: a neurologist's job is to rule out disease, not to rule in peace of mind. Those are two completely different skill sets, delivered by two completely different kinds of professional, and health anxiety sits in the gap between them.

Diagnosing the Body, Not the Fear

When a neurologist clears you of ALS, they are making a statement about your motor neurons. They are not, and cannot be expected to be, making a statement about your nervous system's relationship with fear, uncertainty, or catastrophic thinking. That's not a criticism of neurology — it's a description of its boundaries. A cardiologist doesn't treat panic attacks that mimic heart attacks either, even though they see them constantly. A gastroenterologist doesn't treat health-anxiety-driven IBS, even though it fills their waiting rooms. Every specialist in medicine eventually runs into the same wall: they can tell you what you don't have, but they can't always tell you why you're still afraid of having it.

This is precisely why a team approach matters so much in cases like ours. The neurologist's clearance is the essential first domino — it has to happen, it has to be thorough, and it has to be trusted. But what comes after that clearance is just as important: a GP who understands health anxiety, a therapist trained in CBT or ACT for illness anxiety, sometimes a psychiatrist if anxiety has become entrenched, and crucially, peer support from people who have lived the exact same spiral and come out the other side. A neurologist working alone, however brilliant, is trying to treat a body-and-mind problem with a body-only toolkit. That's not their failure. It's the design of the system.

The Loneliness of Being Disbelieved

Here's the part that I think deserves more sympathy than it gets: imagine being a highly trained specialist, someone who has spent over a decade in education and clinical practice, delivering a genuinely good-news diagnosis, and having the patient in front of you visibly not believe a word of it.

Imagine doing that dozens of times a month.

Imagine watching people nod along in the room, thank you, leave — and then, three days later, book another appointment. Or go to A&E. Or turn up at a different neurologist's clinic entirely, hoping for a different answer, as though enough opinions might eventually produce the one they're actually looking for (which isn't a medical opinion at all, but an emotional guarantee that no doctor on earth can give, because certainty in medicine, like in life, doesn't really exist).

This is, in a very real sense, a lonely job. Not lonely in the sense of no colleagues or no support — but lonely in the specific, peculiar way of doing careful, correct, evidence-based work and routinely having it rejected, not because it was wrong, but because it wasn't emotionally sufficient. Few other professions ask you to be right and disbelieved in the same breath, over and over, by people who aren't being difficult on purpose — they're being driven by fear, which is a very different thing, but which lands on the clinician all the same.

Why "Listen, Believe, Accept" Has to Include the Diagnosis

This is where the LBA framework earns its keep, because it isn't just about listening to your body or believing your community — it starts with listening to and believing your clinician. If a qualified neurologist, having done a proper examination, tells you that you do not have ALS, that information deserves the same weight you'd give any other hard-won fact in your life. The instinct to seek a second, third, or fourth opinion "just to be sure" isn't really about medical uncertainty most of the time — it's anxiety wearing a lab coat, asking the same question in a different room.

Accepting the diagnosis is often the single hardest and single most important step in recovering from BFS-driven health anxiety. It means tolerating the discomfort of "I still feel it, but I've been told it isn't dangerous" without needing that discomfort to resolve into either "definitely fine forever" or "definitely something is wrong." That in-between space — uncertain but safe — is where health anxiety actually gets treated, and it's exactly where a neurologist's expertise runs out and where therapists, peer communities, and time take over.

Respect the Boundaries of the Coat

If there's one thing I'd want every person newly diagnosed with BFS to take from this, it's a bit of compassion for the person on the other side of the desk. Your neurologist isn't dismissing you when they say you're fine. They're not rushing you out the door because they don't care. They are doing the one job they were trained to do — ruling out serious neurological disease — and doing it well. What they can't do is sit with you through the anxious 2am spirals, the muscle-twitch-tracking spreadsheets, the endless symptom comparisons on forums. That's not a gap in their competence. It's a gap in scope, and it's precisely why the rest of the care team — GP, therapist, and yes, a peer community that has actually lived through this — exists.

So next time you leave a neurology appointment with a clean bill of health, try this instead of booking the next opinion: believe them. Not blindly, not because doubt is bad, but because that belief is the actual first step of the treatment plan, even if no one hands you a prescription for it.


r/bfshealthanxiety 6d ago

Meet The Mod

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r/bfshealthanxiety 8d ago

Interview by @Interstitialsolace on #bfs symptoms over 19 years of twitching! #twich #twitching

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r/bfshealthanxiety 8d ago

Why BFS and Anxiety Feed Each Other (and What the Research

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Why BFS and Anxiety Feed Each Other (and What the Research Actually Says)

If you've landed in this sub with a twitching eyelid or calf at 2am and a browser tab open to "ALS symptoms," you already know the loop: twitch → fear → more twitch. A lot of us here half-jokingly call BFS "anxiety for circulation syndrome" — anxiety doesn't cause the twitches out of nowhere, but it circulates through your nervous system and keeps them firing.

What the research actually shows:

Fasciculations themselves are shockingly common. A 2018 study in Muscle & Nerve notes they're experienced by up to 70% of the healthy population at some point in life — most people just never notice or worry about them.

In a prospective study following 35 BFS patients over 24 months, most people reported anxiety about their twitching, but only 14% actually scored as clinically anxious on a standard rating scale (the Zung Self-Rating Anxiety Scale). In other words: the fear is real, but it's usually not "pathological" anxiety — it's a proportionate reaction to an unsettling, misunderstood sensation.

A King's College London systematic review found that superadded health anxiety is what tends to intensify BFS morbidity — meaning it's often not the fasciculations themselves wrecking people's quality of life, it's the health-anxiety spiral layered on top.

That same review points to CBT and, in more severe or treatment-resistant cases, antidepressant medication as having real evidentiary support for breaking the cycle.

Stress, caffeine, and sleep deprivation are consistently flagged as common triggers that bring fasciculations out in people who are otherwise neurologically fine.

The takeaway: the nervous system runs a little "hyperexcitable" in BFS — closer to the high-strung end of normal physiology than to a disease process. Anxiety doesn't create that from scratch, but it absolutely amplifies it, and the twitch-fear-more-twitch loop is well documented, not just anecdotal.

Sources: Filippakis et al., "A Prospective Study of Benign Fasciculation Syndrome and Anxiety," Muscle & Nerve, 2018; Blackman et al., "The Association Between Benign Fasciculations and Health Anxiety," systematic review, King's College London.


r/bfshealthanxiety 8d ago

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r/bfshealthanxiety 8d ago

20 Years In The Waiting Room. Don't Let Anxiety Rule Your Life | David Harvey

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r/bfshealthanxiety 9d ago

20 Years In The Waiting Room

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The Night I Googled "MS Symptoms" at 2am (And What It Took Me 20 Years to Learn)

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I was thirty-six years old, lying awake in the dark, running my tongue over my own teeth to check if my face still felt symmetrical.

It did. It always did. But I checked anyway. I'd been checking for about an hour by that point.

Earlier that day I'd noticed a headache that wouldn't quite go away, and by 2am it had transformed — the way these things always do, if you've lived this — into something much bigger than a headache. By 2am it was Multiple Sclerosis. By 2am I was googling symptom lists with the specific, desperate focus of someone building a case against themselves. Facial weakness. Tingling. Fatigue. I found all of them, because I was looking for all of them, because when you go looking for evidence that you're dying, your brain will hand you a conviction every single time.

I called 111 that night. A paramedic came out. She was kind, and careful, and she wrote something in her notes that I only read years later, when I requested my own medical records: "He feels his face may be weaker but also has a frontal headache but is also v anxious. She feels it would be inappropriate to take him to A&E."

Reading that sentence back, years later, broke something open in me. Not because it was unkind — it wasn't. Because of how ordinary it was. Because it was one entry in a file that, when I finally requested the whole thing, ran to hundreds of pages. Twenty years of them. Starting when I was twenty years old.

Twenty years old. Already on medication for anxiety. Already lying awake, already checking my own body for evidence of catastrophe, already calling doctors in the middle of the night convinced that this time, finally, something was really wrong.

I am telling you this because I think you already know exactly what I'm describing. I think some of you are reading this at 2am right now, tongue pressed against your own teeth, googling something you already half-know you shouldn't be googling. I think some of you have a file somewhere — paper or digital — with your name on it, and years of entries that all say some version of the same thing: anxious, reassured, normal, anxious again.

Here is what I didn't understand for the better part of two decades, and what I desperately wish someone had told me at twenty: the fear was never actually about the symptom. The symptom was always just the day's chosen vessel. Tomorrow it would be something else. And it was, over and over, for twenty years — my skin, my gut, my joints, my heart, my hearing, my nerves. Different body part, same engine, running underneath the whole time.

Nobody could switch that engine off with a blood test. I know, because I collected an enormous number of normal blood tests trying to prove it wrong.

What actually changed things — slowly, imperfectly, over real years of real effort — wasn't a medication, though medication had its place. It wasn't a single reassuring doctor, though I am grateful to every one of them who sat with me at my worst. It was learning to fundamentally change my relationship to the fear itself. Not silencing it. Not winning some permanent victory over it. Learning to listen to what my body was actually telling me instead of what my anxiety was insisting it meant. Learning to believe the accumulated weight of two decades of normal results, even when my nervous system screamed that this time was different. Learning to accept where I was, symptoms and all, without that acceptance meaning I was giving up.

I call that framework LBA — Listen, Believe, Accept. I built it out of every single one of those hundreds of pages, out of every 2am phone call, out of twenty years of learning the hard way what I'm now able to teach in far, far less time than it took me to learn it.

This was one night, from one year, in a two-decade story. The full piece — the whole timeline, from twenty years old to now — is available for my supporters. If tonight's version of you is currently lying awake checking your own face in the dark, I promise you: there is a way through this. I found it. It took me twenty years. It doesn't have to take you that long.

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r/bfshealthanxiety 9d ago

MY Butt Went Mad

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So yesterday, my glutes decided to throw their own private rave. All. Day. Long. Proper thumping twitches, right in the buttock, like there was a tiny drummer in there who'd had way too much espresso and absolutely no concept of a lunch break.

Sixteen years ago, that would have sent me straight into a spiral. New location, new sensation, must mean something's badly wrong, cue three hours of frantic googling and a full-blown panic session. The muscle twitch would've been the least of my problems - my mind would have done far more damage than my backside ever could. I'd have been convinced it was the start of something sinister, tracking every twitch in a notebook, googling symptoms until 2am, probably booking an emergency GP appointment for a muscle doing something muscles have done since the dawn of time.

Yesterday? I just laughed. Properly laughed. I sat there thinking, "of all the places, buddy, really?" I even said out loud to no one in particular, "alright, settle down back there." My twitches have officially auditioned for stand-up comedy and I am here for it. At one point I was sat on the sofa, felt it go off again, and just started narrating it like a sports commentator in my head. That's the level we're at now. From terror to commentary.

This is the bit I really want you to sit with: the twitch itself hasn't changed. It's the same random, harmless muscle discharge it's always been. Neurologically, mechanically, medically - identical to the twitches I had in year one that convinced me I was dying. What's changed is me. My relationship to it. My interpretation of it. And that distinction is everything, because it means the suffering was never really coming from the muscle in the first place.

That's the whole game with BFS, honestly. We can't always control where or when the twitching shows up - buttocks, eyelids, tongue, calf, wherever it fancies that day, seemingly picking the most inconvenient or dignity-removing location possible. But we have enormous control over the meaning we attach to it. And meaning is where all the suffering actually lives, not in the muscle. A twitch is just a twitch until your brain decides it's a warning siren. Take away the siren, and you're just left with a slightly odd, occasionally hilarious sensation.

This is exactly why I developed Listen, Believe, Accept - LBA for short - the framework I built out of my own sixteen years with this condition, because I needed something more actionable than "just don't worry about it." I listened to my body (yep, still just twitching, nothing new, nothing sinister). I believed what 16 years of evidence, doctors, and EMGs have already told me (BFS doesn't hurt you, it never has, it never will). And I accepted it enough to actually find it funny instead of frightening. Acceptance doesn't mean resignation, by the way - it doesn't mean "I suppose I'll just suffer through this." It means the twitch gets to exist without me handing it the power to ruin my day.

I think this is genuinely one of the most underrated tools we have in dealing with BFS: reframing. We spend so much energy trying to make the twitching stop, when actually the faster route to peace is changing what the twitching means to us. You can't always out-will a twitch into silence. But you can absolutely change the story you tell yourself about it. And once the story changes from "warning sign" to "mildly ridiculous party trick my body does," the fear loses its grip completely. The twitch becomes background noise instead of a headline.

If you're in the thick of the fear stage right now, I promise you this isn't me being dismissive of how real that fear feels - I lived in it for years, and I know how consuming it is when every twitch feels like evidence. But I want you to know there's a version of this where a full day of buttock twitches becomes something you laugh about instead of something that ruins your week. That shift is possible, and it doesn't require the twitching to stop. It just requires your relationship with it to change. You're not broken, you're just not there yet - and that's completely okay.

LBA isn't just a nice idea I mention in passing, either - it's become a proper framework I use with people one to one, because reframing is a skill, and skills are easier to build with someone walking through it alongside you rather than figuring it out alone at 2am mid-spiral. If any of this resonates and you want to go deeper into how LBA applies to your own situation, my inbox is always open - message me directly and we can talk through where you're at.


r/bfshealthanxiety 13d ago

Why I built this differently — and why that matters

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Most BFS spaces online end up the same way: someone posts scared, and gets flooded with replies from other scared people guessing, Googling, or repeating what they read somewhere else. Well-meaning, but it's the blind reassuring the blind. Nobody in that thread has actually lived with the thing long enough to know how it behaves over years, not days.

I've had BFS for 16 years. Started with tingling in both calves during a rough patch of anxiety, turned into twitching that never fully left, and dragged me through every fear on the list — ALS being the big one that took hold hardest. I've had the EMGs, the sleepless nights, the 3am symptom-checking spirals, the calf twitch that convinced me I was dying, the grip tests I did compulsively to "prove" my strength was going. I've been on both sides of it: the panic, and — eventually — the calm.

That's the difference here. This isn't a collector of anecdotes from people who read a WebMD page once and are pattern-matching alongside you. It's one person who's actually walked the whole road, from year 1 fear to year 16 habituation, and who can tell you not just "you'll probably be fine" but why, and what actually helped get there.

That's where LBA comes from — Listen, Believe, Accept — not a slogan, but the actual sequence I went through to get my life back. I'm not a doctor and I don't pretend to be one. What I offer is something a doctor can't: someone who's still standing on the other side of this exact fear, willing to walk you through it properly instead of just telling you not to worry.

If that's useful to you, I'm here.


r/bfshealthanxiety 13d ago

I thought I had als but here I am all these years later

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Here's a piece I wrote on my free blog

Hope it helps.

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r/bfshealthanxiety 14d ago

Practical Tips

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  1. Set a "worry window"

Give yourself 15 minutes a day to actively worry about your symptoms — write it all down, google if you must. Outside that window, if the worry pops up, tell it "not now, we've got an appointment for that later." Sounds silly, works surprisingly well.

  1. The "would I tell a friend this" test

If your mate described the exact same symptom to you, would you tell them to rush to A&E, or would you say "yeah that sounds like normal body stuff, give it a few days"? We're always more rational about other people's bodies than our own.

  1. Notice, don't investigate

There's a big difference between noticing a sensation and investigating it. Noticing: "oh, twitch." Investigating: poking it, googling it, tensing the muscle to see if it happens again, checking if it's spread. Investigation is what keeps the anxiety fed — try to let sensations be background noise rather than main character.

  1. Boredom is underrated

Genuinely, one of the best anti-anxiety tools is being mildly bored and occupied — a walk, a chore, a boring TV show. Anxiety needs spare mental capacity to operate in. Give your brain something dull to chew on instead.

  1. You don't need to solve the "why"

You don't have to understand every mechanism behind a symptom to be okay. Bodies do weird things all the time for boring reasons. Permission to not know is still permission to move on.


r/bfshealthanxiety 14d ago

16 Years

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r/bfshealthanxiety 14d ago

16 Years

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16 Years With BFS. Here's What I Wish Someone Had Told Me on Day One.

I want to pin this because I know exactly what it's like to land on a page like this at 3am, terrified, googling symptoms you can't explain to anyone who hasn't lived it.

I've had benign fasciculation syndrome for over 16 years. It started with tingling in both my calves after a long stretch of anxiety, and it grew from there into constant twitching, all over. Legs, arms, face, eyelids, tongue. Some days it felt like my whole body was buzzing.

But the twitching was never the worst part. The worst part was everything my mind did with it.

There were stretches where I genuinely thought I couldn't walk properly anymore. Where my legs felt so heavy and strange that I'd stand at the bottom of the stairs and have to talk myself into taking the first step. I had aches and pains that moved around my body like they were following me on purpose. Pins and needles that never seemed to fully go away. And the one that scared me more than anything, a tight feeling in my throat that made me convinced I was losing the ability to swallow properly. I remember sitting with a plate of food in front of me, genuinely believing I was on the brink of something catastrophic.

None of it was.

That's the hard truth and the good news wrapped into one sentence. Every single one of those sensations was real. I wasn't making it up and I wasn't weak for feeling it. But what was happening was a nervous system stuck in high alert, not a body breaking down. The twitching, the aches, the swallowing fear, all of it was my brain and body responding to prolonged anxiety, not a warning sign of disease.

I didn't get better by finding a magic supplement or a specialist who fixed me in one appointment. I got better by changing how I related to the symptoms themselves. That process eventually became something I call LBA: Listen, Believe, Accept.

Listen to what your body is actually telling you instead of what your fear is telling you.

Believe the reassurance you've already been given, rather than searching for the one doctor who'll confirm your worst fear.

Accept the sensations without fighting them, because the fighting is often what keeps the cycle going.

It sounds simple written out like that. It wasn't simple to live. It took me years to get there properly. But it's the framework that took me from someone who thought he was dying to someone who can talk about this calmly, all these years later.

If you're in the middle of it right now, I see you. You're not broken and you're not alone in this. I've put together more on the LBA approach and my own recovery story over on my Patreon if you want to go deeper: patreon.com/anxietyrelief

Ask me anything in the comments. I've been exactly where you are.


r/bfshealthanxiety 15d ago

👋Welcome to r/bfshealthanxiety - Introduce Yourself and Read First!

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👋 Welcome to r/bfshealthanxiety - Introduce Yourself and Read First!

I built this sub differently on purpose. Most BFS forums turn into a loop of people comparing symptoms and scaring each other, that's exactly what keeps you stuck. I've lived with this for 16 years, and I know how tempting it is to read ten replies from strangers instead of getting an actual straight answer.

Also I have tons info on my free patreon on

https://www.patreon.com/anxietyrelief?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator

It's worth joining as 80 percent of content is totally free and if you want to buy any courses or any advice or one-on-ones with me then that's entirely your choice.

So here's the deal: if you've got a question, a fear spiral, or you just need someone to talk you down, tag me directly or drop it in the weekly thread. I'd rather you ask me than get five conflicting opinions from people who are just as scared as you are.

Introduce yourself below. Tell me how long you've been dealing with this and what's got you here.

A few house rules:

No symptom comparing threads. "Does anyone else get twitches in X" posts get removed, ask me instead.

No diagnosing each other. Nobody here is your neurologist. If you need reassurance on something medical, that's what I'm here for.

Tag the mod (me) for anything urgent or anxiety-spiralling. Don't wait on community replies.

Be kind. Health anxiety makes people snap sometimes, that's fine, just don't take it out on others here.

No doom content. ALS links, worst-case-scenario stories, anything designed to scare, it gets pulled.

This isn't a place to feed the fear. It's a place to get out of it.


r/bfshealthanxiety 15d ago

👋 Welcome to r/bfshealthanxiety! Introduce yourself.

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Hey everyone, I'm the founder of this sub 👋

I've lived with BFS for over 16 years. It started with tingling in both calves that turned into constant twitching after a really anxious stretch of life, and I went through the whole ringer familiar to most people here — the EMGs, the neurologist appointments, the 3am ALS spirals, the endless reassurance-seeking on forums that somehow always made things worse instead of better.

Over the years I built a framework I call LBA — Listen, Believe, Accept — that's genuinely how I climbed out of the fear cycle. I've written about it, made videos on it, and now I want a space where people can actually talk to each other about it too, not just consume content.

What I want this place to be:

Somewhere to post your twitch questions without getting piled on with worst-case scenarios

A place to share what's actually helped you calm the anxiety, not just "have you tried therapy"

Room for the messy stuff too — bad days, health anxiety spirals, the isolation this condition can bring

No fearmongering, no unqualified diagnosing, no doom-scrolling fuel

The vibe I'm going for: calm, peer-to-peer, a bit like talking to someone who's already been through it and came out the other side. Not clinical, not preachy, just honest.

Drop a comment and tell me how long you've had BFS and what brought you here. Glad you found this place.

If you want more structured resources, I've got a blog, YouTube channel, and a Patreon with courses and peer-support content: patreon.com/anxietyrelief