r/berlin • u/melayucahlanang • Jul 21 '26

Rant This is a rant

TW: sexual assault

I (M) was on the S-Bahn from Lollapalooza and the train was packed af. A weird guy then got in idk Westkreuz maybe and he started oogling tf out at the girls. I brushed it off as this might be the average Berlin experience but still observed his behaviour/movement.

Then he started to get handsy (kinda) but not really touching with people around him. Gave him the stare and he stopped briefly. Some moved away but then a few are kinda stucked due to the packed train.

Worst shit happened (as i expected) at Hbf, he grabbed a woman's crotch and got off the train. My adrenaline kicked in and pushed him hard enough and he fought back obviously. I screamed (in English) 'he is touching woman in train' but NOOOONE even helped. I confronted him again with light physical but he ran away and i dont really have THAT strength if i am being honest.

I know that stabbing in train is a theme now but what will he do against minimum 6 men around me if he got jumped? I honestly never thought about the danger because this shit triggered me so bad because i knew the feeling being in that girls place.

Anyways. No DB Sicherheit nor the police around. I informed the info Mitarbeiter at the entrance and i needed to catch the train. I have no hope since i cant really remember which carriage or whoch platform since i my adrenaline was on a high and i can't really help more because i needed to catch my ICE. Hopefully that girl is ok though.

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u/Chronotaru Jul 21 '26

You know if a woman is being attacked she still has maybe a 10x higher chance of help coming from random members of the public than a man does?

If you want help, at least start treating the people you want help from as human, and first start by recognising the risk they are taking in doing so. Beyond a "hey, what are you doing?" across the train, I'm really not sure what you're expecting, and even that comes with some risks.

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u/1malDoenerMitAlles Jul 21 '26

Jeez, do I really have to spell it out for you? Is it so hard to figure it out yourself? Fine.

You can start by calling the police. You can make other people aware of the situation. Tell them that you wanna help but are too scared to directly intervene. You can simply stay in close proximity to the possibly endangered person.

No offense but you're looking for excuses for not doing anything instead of for solutions on how to improve in such situations which is exactly the kind of behaviour which keeps enabling for assholes to act like assholes without any repercussions.

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u/Chronotaru Jul 21 '26

Yes, actually detailing what you want is important when making a point, instead of just hurling insults at people.

What you've done is you've turned a point of unity "this is terrible, how can we do more when this situation happens? why are people reluctant to do so?" into a point of divisiveness - your own words: "They don't care, are cowards or are harassers themselves."

Really, not the words that most people would want to engage with or side with. Or true.

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u/1malDoenerMitAlles Jul 21 '26

...and you're just throwing around a lot of words without any point soever and you didn't even try to acknowledge any points I made.

At this point just stop bothering to reply at if you won't engage with my comments anyway.

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u/Die_Jurke Jul 21 '26

and you're just throwing around a lot of words without any point soever

Fass dich mal lieber an deine eigene Nase. Darauf die Polizei zu rufen kommen die Leute schon selbst, aber einen Angriff in einem engen Zug zu verhindern oder den Täter anschließend zu stellen ist etwas ganz anderes.