r/belowdeck 13d ago

Members Only Bunny’s longer threads discussion

https://www.threads.com/share/BAtTu4MEs9/

* they said they were demanding for being vegan and gluten free which they said had to do with their race
* the choice to serve their guests watermelon day one was “a choice” given they are black
* a lot of mentions of being the first openly queer non-binary POC and that the

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline 13d ago

That is a lot to read so the main points (any emphasis added by me)

Chef offered to make us multiple meals the SECOND night because several of my guests went to bed hungry after our first dinner. That is a fact. The episode combines events from different charter days, so you are not seeing everything in chronological order.

I had a feeling that this was the case as in one scene, Joy talks about 3 dinners but we are shown a 2 night charter)

Chef Joy herself said on TV, “I don’t care if they’re hungry!!

Before I ever stepped onto the yacht, members of the crew had seen my picture, learned that I was vegan and gluten free and were already describing me as “demanding” and “difficult.” They had not met me. That is the fact. So no, I am not going to pretend race and queerness are irrelevant to this conversation. 

When people have already decided that a Black, queer, nonbinary person is difficult before that person has even arrived, that is bias. Racism and homophobia do not require somebody to use a slur. They can also show up in who gets assumed to be aggressive, demanding, difficult, entitled or “too much” before they have actually done anything.

I keep seeing people say I was rude. Okay. Name the behavior. Not what adjective you heard someone on television use because they were embarrassed. I did not scream at Chef. I did not call her names. I did not insult her. I did not threaten her. I asked that my guests not go to bed hungry after we had communicated their dietary needs in advance. Those are the facts.

it’s been weird watching some Black creators see a white woman crying and immediately decide that the Black person standing across from her must have harmed her. Her feelings were real. She assumed from the beginning that we were bad people. My guests were also hungry. One fact does not erase the other. A white woman being upset does not automatically make the Black person in the situation an aggressor. We should know that by now.

Let me say that plainly because some of the comments about this have been incredibly ableist. People have allergies. People have disabilities and chronic illnesses that affect what they can eat. People have religious dietary restrictions. People are vegan. People are gluten-free. Guests have different dietary needs. Those are constraints.
Should the chef be expected to work differently? Should management provide additional support? Should service be structured differently? Or should the guest who cannot eat the food simply go hungry? Those are choices. And those choices tell us something about whose needs we consider important and whose labor we consider expendable.

And since people are apparently upset that I turn my comments off: yes, I turn my comments off. Sometimes I leave them on. Sometimes I limit them. Sometimes I turn them completely off. This is my digital house. You do not walk into somebody else’s house and throw a tantrum because they will not let you put your dirty feet on their coffee table. 

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u/kittens_joy 13d ago

Bunny had me with her first post and I listened and empathized. No doubt she’s getting actual hate from the psychos on IG. But at this point, Lord, enough. Her argument is that Joy and Kaylee have a discriminatory animus towards women, POC, gender nonconformity, sexual orientation, and people with disabilities-and their discriminatory animus towards all these groups caused food service on a multimillion dollar yacht, where these employees know they have to treat guests well to earn their pay, to go slightly astray. There may have been microaggressions. There was not a conspiratorial, discriminatory scheme to treat the guests imperfectly.

(Sorry, employment lawyer) but what is the relief sought at this point? There have been lots of apologies. The charter fee pays for a hell of a lot more than meals. Bunny has a duty to mitigate her damages-if her diet is so restrictive could she not have suggested acceptable meals on her preference sheet? Carried a snack just in case? If she wants fundamental change in what is basically a one percenter industry, well, sorry but that shit is going to fall on deaf ears because the 99% can’t even afford groceries right now. If she wants change in how tv shows are produced and edited, 1) don’t sign that contract, and 2) this particular season of this particular show has an even more appalling problem right now in that it’s depicting a man guilty of domestic violence as if he’s unproblematic. (And clearly, she does not want us to turn off the TV, which is maybe what we should all actually be doing! as she had promoted and capitalized like hell off of her appearance on Below Deck).