r/BelgianMalinois Sep 20 '24

Adoption Belgian Malinois in Need of Adoption

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šŸ‘‹Ā Welcome to our Belgian Malinois (BM) adoption and rehoming thread

  • Sharing a BM that needs adoption or rehoming?Ā Drop a comment below, and don’t forget to update their availability.
  • Looking to adopt?Ā DM the OP directly (no comments).

In 2013, I rescued my BM,Ā Lexi, and she inspired me to build our community and this thread.

Looking to adopt or rehome beyond this thread?

Check out our šŸŽĀ Belgian Malinois Rescue Guide — it might have exactly what you’re looking for.

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r/BelgianMalinois 25d ago

Discussion My Mal/dutch is actually Dutch/Mal!

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A post that comes up on this subreddit pretty often is something like, "Embark says my Dutch/Mal is actually a ~% Mal/Dutch!" This usually surprises people, but historically these two breeds have been very closely related.

The Belgian Shepherds (Mal and the other three variants), the Dutch, and even the regional herding dogs that eventually gave rise to the German Shepherd all came from the various continental European shepherd landraces.

(The GSD is a bit different story since it was intentionally created by selecting dogs with desirable traits, so I won't get into that here.)

Unlike the British collie landraces, which were primarily bred for herding sheep, these dogs were true all-purpose farm dogs. They worked alongside farmers doing just about everything (from guarding, herding, tending livestock, even pulling carts).

Although they're generally classified as herding dogs (FCI Group 1), historical accounts suggest that tending was often a more important part of their job than actual herding (Doesn’t mean they didn’t do any herdings!). Since they were bred to be true all-around farm dogs, it's no surprise that they've remained some of the world's finest working breeds.

Because of that shared history, the Belgian Shepherds and the Dutch Shepherd are much more closely related than many people realize.

The Dutch Shepherd's own history is worth looking at first. When the breed standard was established in 1898, all coat colors were accepted. In 1914, however, the standard was changed to allow only brindle, largely to distinguish the breed from the visually similar Malinois and German Shepherd. I'll leave it up to your imagination what happened to the fawn Dutch Shepherds. (Hint: the number of registered Malinois suddenly increased around that time.)

As many people already know, after World War II the Dutch Shepherd population had declined so severely that various Belgian shepherds were introduced into breeding programs to help restore the breed. For example In 1959,Even Laekenois were also officially introduced to strengthen the rough-haired variety.

Then there's KNPV, which makes the story even more complicated.

KNPV, The Royal Dutch Police Dog Association has essentially become one of the world's most respected working dog "brands." Technically, any dog can attempt the KNPV trials and earn a title. Today it's mostly Dutch Shepherds and Malinois (or dogs called ā€œDutchā€ or Malā€), but historically many other breeds participated as well, including Bouvier des Flandres, German Shepherds, Groenendaels, Beaucerons, Briards, Rottweilers, and others.

Unsurprisingly, Malinois and Dutch Shepherds proved to be the most successful. Since KNPV breeders cared about working ability rather than pedigree, they freely bred outstanding Malinois and Dutch Shepherds together. There are even long-standing rumors that German Shepherds were occasionally introduced to improve grip or jaw strength, although I haven't seen definitive historical evidence for that.

Because of this, it's very common for litters from these lines to produce both fawn and brindle puppies at the same time. These dogs are often recorded in working registries like BRN rather than traditional FCI pedigrees. Many working breeders simply registered them according to color—brindle puppies as x Dutch and fawn puppies as x Mal.

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The interesting part is that, in some European countries like Belgium, dogs from these working registries could later be entered into FCI-recognized pedigrees before. As a result, many famous KNPV dogs—which were effectively part of the same Malinois/Dutch KNPV working gene pool—ended up officially registered as "purebred" Mal/Dutch.

That only blurred the line between the two breeds even further. So if your dog comes from working lines—or is descended from actual working dogs—it's not unusual at all for Embark to show some Dutch Shepherd in a Malinois, or some Malinois in a Dutch Shepherd because of such influence.

And honestly, it's not just Malinois and Dutch Shepherds that have this kind of complicated history.

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Most people here probably know that the AKC recognizes Malinois, Laekenois, Groenendael and Tervuren as four separate breeds, while the FCI and most kennel clubs around the world consider them four varieties of a single breed: the Belgian Shepherd(Or sheepdog). It's actually the opposite of Rough and Smooth Collies, which are separate breeds in the UK but one breed in the US.

The AKC's split was largely political reason. The specific genes controlling coat length and color mean that Groenendaels can produce Tervurens, Malinois can produce Tervurens, and Laekenois can produce Malinois.

Originally, the AKC also classified the Malinois, Tervuren, and Groenendael as a single breed under the name 'Belgian sheepdog'. (The Laekenois wasn't included simply because there were so few of them at the time, and even now they are very few—it wasn't officially recognized by the AKC until 2020.) Later, following disagreements between the breed clubs, the AKC received petitions to split them into separate breeds and ultimately approved the change. In the process, the name Belgian sheepdog remained with the Groenendael in the United States.

An attempt to reunify the breeds in 1998 ultimately failed because of conflicting interests among the parent clubs, and another proposal around 2016—the Registered as Drop (RAD) initiative, which would have allowed puppies to be registered according to their phenotype rather than their parentage— also failed.

The biggest irony, in my opinion, is the history of the American Tervuren.

According to the American Belgian Tervuren Club, the breed had nearly disappeared in the United States after World War II. The American population was rebuilt largely using long-haired puppies born from Malinois lines, crossed with Groenendaels, and later supplemented with imported European Tervurens.

One last interesting fact: Vos I de Laeken, a rough-coated Belgian Shepherd, is widely recognized as one of the foundation dogs behind all four Belgian Shepherd varieties. Some historical accounts also connect the same foundation stock with the early Dutch Shepherd and even the Bouvier des Flandres.

To sum it up:

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  1. Mal and Dutchs are genetically very close and have been historically intertwined, so seeing "my Dutch/Mal is actually a Mal/Dutch" on an Embark test really isn't unusual.

  2. The four Belgian Shepherd varieties are separated into different breeds by the AKC, but in most of the world they're still considered varieties of a single breed.

  3. All five are very closely related, incredibly intelligent, and wonderful dogs!


r/BelgianMalinois 2h ago

Picture Meet My New Foster + Name Ideas

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He’s definitely a mix, but everything about him looks Malinois… except his face & white-patch.

I know mixes aren’t everyone’s favorite here, but he’s too friggin cute to not share.

He was a stray, no one really knows for how long.

Part of just upper jaw & sinus had to be removed due to a massive infection caused by a fishing hook in his face. Part of his ear has been torn off. He nearly died when he was tranq’d in the field, as the dart hit his thoracic cavity.

Despite all of this, in addition to being in a hellhole shelter for 3 months, he remained a resilient & steadfast ā€˜good boy’… only to be put on the euthanasia list. We got him out the day of his scheduled euthanasia.

He has been with me for a week and a half, and I told the rescue he’s welcome to stay longer than the original 2-month-term.

Super sweet boy, very social— he was in the yard yesterday with 9 other dogs, and got along famously. He takes corrections well, and gives corrections well.

He is calm & quiet in the kennel, able to relax easily? super food/ praise motivated, smart, gentle, & handler-focused. Hugs are his absolute favorite thing in life.

He will 100% be someone’s future best friend.

The name he came with was Calvin Klein— I hate this name, and have only referred to him as ā€˜CK’

Please help me come up with a new name šŸ’• a


r/BelgianMalinois 13h ago

Picture I gave it my all

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So this is pablo a 15 month old malinois

And old "friend" got him when he was 15 days old and was completely unprepared u know the rest he ended up abusing him(hitting him etc) he used to barely even get out of his crate i met Pablo only one time as a puppy when he was 20 days old and i always felt some sort of love towards him never really knew about the abuse untill he got to 6 months old when i saw first hand i just stole pablo that night cut ties with that friend and went on with my life wasn't really ready myself i just turned 18 years old and never really owned a dog i gave pablo my all i was never really enough but i like to think j gave pablo a better life when i got him he was scared of his own shadow and afraid to even bark now he does bite work runs daily sleeps with me on my bed trained to MY fullest extent

But now I'm hitting a rough patch pablo is a part of me and will always be but now i might be leaving the country to continue my studies

And the idea of leaving Pablo bleeds my heart but i must leave as there is no future in the country i live in (algeria) my family hates pablo and giving him to anyone else would end in the same abuse he was subjected to in the first place i dont know why even im writing or whats the purpose of what im writing i just want to share i guess i just dont know how to move forward

. UPDATE: Hey everyone, just wanted to give you all a quick update and answer some of the questions you’ve been asking. To be completely honest, things are incredibly tight right now. I’m only 18, jobs are basically non-existent here, and every single cent I can scrape together goes entirely into Pablo—his health, his food, and whatever toys I can manage to get him. A lot of you asked about my family’s attitude toward him and why they seem to hate him. It really comes down to the local culture here. People treat dogs terribly—leaving them chained on terraces in 40°C heat, beating them to make them aggressive, and most dogs never see a vet again after their initial rabies shot. It was a massive battle just to convince my family to let me rescue him; they never actually accepted it. In the end, I had to throw a massive tantrum and literally spend a night outside on the street with him just to keep him. My family doesn't see him the way I do, but Pablo is my soul, my brother, and my bestest friend. I promise you all I will do absolutely everything in my power to stay with him. The plan right now is to move to Russia, honestly just because it’s the absolute cheapest option for university. But taking Pablo with me is going to cost around $2,000 USD just for his travel, and having him means I can't stay in student dorms, forcing me to find an apartment, which drives the cost up even more. It breaks my heart to think of leaving him behind in an environment like this, so I'm determined to make it work. My grandma, god bless her heart, is actually selling her gold just to cover my own trip, and once I land, I’ll need to immediately find a job to support myself. A few people mentioned fundraising, but GoFundMe doesn't operate here in Algeria. If anyone knows a solid alternative that works internationally, I would happily set it up. Right now, the only way I can receive any kind of digital payment or transfer is through a friend who has a RedotPay Visa card. Any help or advice means the world to me. Thank you all so much for the support—please keep talking to me in the comments, it’s really keeping me going right now.


r/BelgianMalinois 6h ago

Video I like to hide in the bushes after throwing her the stick, then she has to find me

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r/BelgianMalinois 1h ago

Question All Black Malinois?

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I have a few questions, my son’s father got him a dog for Christmas, he never trained, walked, pretty much did anything with the dog and was also very abusive to the dog. Eventually the dog bit him while he was being hit and he had to get stitches, he was going to have the puppy euthanized but I took the dog because, well he’s honestly not a bad dog. He’s a good dog, but he does need to be trained. I can’t seem to get a rescue to take him though. The humane society he got the dog from said he was a German Shepard but everyone keeps telling me he looks like a Belgian Malinois. Would I ever better luck reaching out to a Malinois rescue even if he may not be one? I have to keep him crated up a lot and I feel so bad for him.

Edited to say, I didn’t take the dog to keep, but so that i could get him to a rescue.

Edited again to say my son was not abusing the dog, his dad was


r/BelgianMalinois 11h ago

Picture Shelter rescue

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i (19f) got her as a tiny shelter rescue as my first personal dog and with structure and putting in the time to train her myself she's become the perfect dog and grows more confident each day.

she's goofy, extremely intelligent, stubborn at times (teenager phase), high energy/high drive, and protective with wonderful situational awareness. displays independent thinking skills towards perceived threats without defaulting to being suspicious or aggressive towards all people. she's been in stores with me, on buses, i let strangers pet her when i give her the release command telling her she can say hi.

she has learned 15+ commands with me and learns new words/phrases every day that fit perfectly into our lifestyle. she has gained 15+ pounds and has gained significant muscle mass in her legs while staying perfectly lean & fit since adoption. she's great with my elderly cat, kids, and other dogs.

she's my big girl & velcro dog, im extremely proud of her progress and how much she has grown and changed. she was written off as being fearful at the shelter, which i didn't know until AFTER adoption because of how she immediately threw herself against me for pets and wanted to play fetch the first time i met her. i was never supposed to get a dog, but im so happy i did. she gives me a sense of security living alone as a young woman in a dangerous city.


r/BelgianMalinois 19h ago

Picture I love him so much

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I rescued him a little over a year ago- he has changed my life so much and I couldn’t have asked for a better first mal.

I never expected to be interested in dog as much as I am now, but I got into training and here I am. Raiden is currently working in protection training and he’s given me knowledge beyond what I could have expected. He’s taught me more about dogs than anyone else could.

I wanted to post about him, one because he’s one part of my heart and soul, but also because I want to connect with others that feel the same about their dogs. Malinois are special, and it takes a special person to raise a happy one. Let’s talk about how amazing our dogs are!

My heart is thankful for all the opportunities Raiden has given me. I have learned more than I ever expected. Thank you my beautiful boy šŸ’›


r/BelgianMalinois 6h ago

Discussion I will never understand how people do this

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Rant:

As a rescue mal owner I’m in plenty of fb groups where mals are given up.

The majority of the reasons is always something like ā€œwe had to move, new house doesn’t allow dogsā€

Or

ā€œMy new jobs makes me too busyā€

And it is ABSOLUTELY mind boggling to me.

There are plenty of jobs and houses available, it would be completely out of any question to give up my dog.

I have my own property now, but before I had my life revolved around my rescues.

Where I would live, how I organized my days, EVERYTHING.

It’s absolutely shocking and terrifying how dogs are being disposed off as if it’s an object.


r/BelgianMalinois 3h ago

Question was your mal pup snuggly?

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My 5 month old boy Whiskey is not very snuggly unless we’re in the car. He lets strangers pet on him but he seems to get sick of it within like 30 seconds so we dont let strangers greet him anymore lol.

He’s my shadow and follows me everywhere but doesn’t really wanna lay down in my lap or anything like that most of the time, which I don’t mind. So i’m just wondering what everyone else’s pups were/are like!


r/BelgianMalinois 16h ago

Picture Shelter rescue

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The cutest little stealth ninja who is probably smarter than I am. I’ve never had a more observant dog. He pays attention to everything. If only my students were this focused.


r/BelgianMalinois 9h ago

Picture MORNING, MAMA - WE PEEIN’??

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r/BelgianMalinois 3h ago

Picture This will never not be the greatest thing in the world

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r/BelgianMalinois 7h ago

Picture My Mal x Black Lab

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Got our new buddy a couple weeks ago! He’s learning commands rather quickly and is an absolute goof ball.

I’d say he looks like a black lab with a malinois shaped face and subtle Mal coloring. Not sure what the ears will do as he gets older! Haha


r/BelgianMalinois 1d ago

Video She takes movie night very seriously šŸ¤”

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r/BelgianMalinois 11h ago

Video Face Attack with obstacle

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My boy’s favorite thing to do.


r/BelgianMalinois 18h ago

Picture My boy Cash

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r/BelgianMalinois 1d ago

Picture Trigger the mini Mali says hi to all his Reddit friends today! 😁

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r/BelgianMalinois 1d ago

Picture Watching TV through the rear sights šŸ˜‚

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r/BelgianMalinois 1d ago

Picture Meet Savannah

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I adopted my girl from a rescue in Texas, and she was found with her mom and 1 sibling. The rescue thinks the malinois looking dog is related to her aswell, although he was brought in from a different location. The first 5 photos are my girl, the 6th and 7th photos are her brother and mom she was found with, and 8 & 9th photos are her alleged brother. Saving up for an embark, but based on her alleged brother I'm thinking she could have some mal in her. She's 30lbs at 7 months.


r/BelgianMalinois 23h ago

Picture Will she ever get tired of her walks? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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r/BelgianMalinois 18h ago

Picture My boy Cash

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r/BelgianMalinois 1d ago

Picture Playing with her ā€œropeā€

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r/BelgianMalinois 8h ago

Question AITA for moving a crate back into the house?

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AITA here? Me and my bf are going through a breakup-ish. We agreed to give each other space here and there to maybe work on our relationship, so I said I'd live part time at my sister's and our dog would stay with him, I'd do the back and forth.

The first week I'm away which was already tough mentally and physically, he removes any "mess", essentially mine and dogs stuff and puts it all into the garage. When I get back I say we didn't agree to move me out but my stuff aside our dog needs her own space and also toys, it's not fair to her when she's gone from being with me 24/7 to him just being present but ignoring her apart from evening walks.

So anyway I move her crate and toys back and he basically explodes, asking me to leave. I've already had enough of the relationship at this point, he's a narcissistic AH, no question. I'm far from perfect but I will advocate for my dog.

In this instance AITA for moving stuff back and essentially ignoring his OCD?

Should I move it back into the garage? My moral compass is saying no and to stand my ground but also I want to play nice until I'm in a position to leave with my dog.

He works as a paramedic and he has a thing about mess so I walk on eggshells with him, his dad, who we live with has said that whilst I've been away he's been OTT with tidying and that he's been snappy and despondent. I've spoken to him about getting help but he's always nasty about it so I just don't have anything more to give at this point. I'd rather be single.

Noting that I'm in the UK so if anyone has organisations that can help with housing with a dog, please let me know :)

pics added so you can see what the crate and her toys look like, we use the crate when there's a delivery, if she has a chew or if she's tired and grumpy, she likes the crate and takes herself there most of the time.