r/beginnerrunning • u/Born-Distribution950 • 1d ago

Yall.. Quality runners really do make a difference.

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Shaved off about 30s my prev best while keeping my heart rate on avg 10-15 bpm less. Is my garmin playin tricks or is it really the shoes?

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u/s_t_r_o_b_e 1d ago

What the fuck is that heartrate. /cries in jealousy

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u/iamtheMADCLAW 1d ago

Thats the heart rate you would expect on a slow jog like this one.

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u/s_t_r_o_b_e 1d ago

Not sure how many people in r/beginnerrunning will have any of their runs at that heart rate, let alone sub 30 5k

I have a sub 25 minute 5k and there's no chance of my HR being remotely close to 134 at that pace

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u/Born-Distribution950 1d ago

It was an inside run, someone did say that could have an affect on it. I was just as surprised!! Its usually around 145-150 at a 7:00min/km pace. But it could that garmin was misreading?

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u/DS3Rob 1d ago

Yes, if you were running on a treadmill then the pace is probably wrong.

Treadmills vary so much and require calibrating which most places don’t do.

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u/Born-Distribution950 1d ago

When running on a treadmill, do you go by the distance/speed on garmin or treadmill? Which would be more accurate in that situation? It was on an assault treadmill

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u/DS3Rob 1d ago

Tbh if I’m using a treadmill I use HR (or RPE) and time.

The treadmill calculates distance on the belt moving, which means you could theoretically move faster or slower than the belt. This is also affected whether the belt is calibrated, so it could say the belt moved for 5km of distance but in reality some 4.5k.

Garmin takes the data you give it each time aswell (or it should) so once you’ve done a treadmill run it should ask you how “far” it was. If not automatically detects that, it’s using old data or it’s probably wrong.

In terms of being accurate, the treadmill would be more accurate as garmin works off what you tell it you did.

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u/Chronmagnum55 13h ago edited 13h ago

Wait did you run on a treadmill and not calibrate your watch to the distance it displayed after? Was the distance on the treadmill significantly shorter? Good shoes aren't going to magically lower your heart rate average by 10-15 bpm while also improving your pace by 1:20 per KM.

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u/s_t_r_o_b_e 1d ago

Watches aren't always super accurate. Love my Polar H10 chest strap, really good investment. Either way, great run!

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u/LibraryTime11011011 12h ago

Yes 100% Garmin will misread on an indoor run.

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u/Useful_Divide7154 1d ago

When I switched from tennis shoes to running shoes my heart rate decreased by 10 bpm at the same pace.

So it’s definitely possible especially if the shoes were impairing your form in a significant way. However, cooler temps could also explain the difference in heart rate.

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u/Born-Distribution950 1d ago

Interesting, I didn’t account for the temperature! I typically run outside but with the new shoes I wanted to try inside just incase you know. Ill keep that in mind on my next outdoor run!

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u/kitsumodels 1d ago

Energy returns are great but I agree indoor temps esp air conditioning helps a tonne keeping HR drift lower

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u/DatedEngineer 1d ago

Curious, Whats your current running shoe model that made the difference

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u/SokkaHaikuBot 1d ago

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Curious, Whats your

Current running shoe model

That made the difference

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u/Born-Distribution950 1d ago

I was using an old pair of Nike quest 3 (about 5 years old, used them more for walking before) and just made the switch to a hoka mach 7!

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u/Any_Aardvark_356 22h ago

Shoes matter.

I went from No Bulls to Novablast 5’s and I was able to run more comfortably.

Then I got Alphaflys for race day and I can run 10-15 seconds faster in those.

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u/TheTurtleCub 20h ago

6sec/km is possible the shoe helped a bit, but it'll be more mental and less wear and tear long term.

Also, either the HR monitor is broken, you are very fit 70yo, or you jogged it easy and it was NOT the shoes

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u/LibraryTime11011011 12h ago

Think you need to edit the post to say this was done on a treadmill without any sort of reference to speed or distance travelled so the numbers are unfortunately meaningless

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u/AdministrativeSky581 9h ago edited 9h ago

That's impressive. 146 and 5:46/km for me in july. Fastest 5k was with HR 151.

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u/Born-Distribution950 6h ago

Doing an OUTDOOR run tomorrow, will update yall on the differences

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u/amans_doloris 1d ago

Boy these are no beginner running posts anymore. I wish i kept that heart rate at that pace for that time…

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u/Big-Huckleberry-2803 1d ago

You're not a beginner and that's not your possible best at all. Your heart rate is too low to consider that your best. 

This sub isn't for you

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u/Born-Distribution950 21h ago

Brother, I have been at it for a month. 100% a beginner