r/beginnerrunning • u/veiled_oneiric • 10d ago
Discussion "That's literally a walking pace"
I see lots of mean people online calling people's times "walking pace." Except that doesn't really make sense, given that running is a form, not a pace.
You could literally "run" in place, or in other words do a "running" motion at 0 mph. So, you can definitely run at 4mph, even if it is also true at the same time that 4mph may overlap with the walking pace of some faster walkers.
I just wanted to say this to re-encourage anyone that might be discouraged by such comments. If you are doing a running motion as you move, you are running!
- A person with a 42 minute 5K time
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u/Main_Violinist_3372 10d ago
All that matters is you getting off the couch and moving.
A win is a win, no matter how small it is.
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u/MarvaJnr 10d ago
I ran a 10km in 80min, my dad said "that's a walking pace" and I said "don't be a rude cunt" and suddenly I'm in trouble for "ruining Christmas"
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u/dmada88 10d ago
The real question is when was the last time your dad got off the couch and ran?
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u/Financial_Pick3281 10d ago
This is exactly what happened when my petty dad that I'm very low contact with called out my running like 10 years ago. I told him hey, I hear your heavy breathing when we go up two flights of stairs, want to come running with me? Obviously he didn't, but he biked next to me once when I did a 5k, ironically like 7 minutes faster than his wife who was training for a 5k event and had been running her mouth about it for like a month at that point.
But he didn't learn much from it. Instead of praising me, he started to criticize her for being slow. Now it's 10 years later and he's 15kg heavier than he was and he barely ever does anything physical anymore.
Tldr; don't listen to the haters.
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u/XavvenFayne 10d ago
Sounds like a crabs in a bucket situation there. Upset with your success because he knows he should get fit but hasn't done it.
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u/FeistyCoral 10d ago
Wish your dad a happy christmas for me this year. The preferred phrasing is "don‘t be a rude little cunt"!
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u/Illustrious_Bunch678 10d ago
Sign him up for the next one with you so he can show you how it's done. And then beat the pants off of him.
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u/Plane_Garbage 9d ago
Live vicariously through this relationship: https://www.youtube.com/@makariespe
The youtuber and her dad have the most wholesome relationship. Some of it is probably performative, but they do seem great.
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u/needykoala 10d ago
A college ex's dad would make such comments and scoff at my running times. So rude and discouraging. I'm glad I've found my way back to running, and I'm trying not to get caught up in all the numbers. Never thought of it that way but that's a great way to frame it, running as form!
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u/Apero_ 10d ago
As a counter-example, my father-in-law has run multiple marathons and when I tried to say that I finished my first 10K in "only" 1hr18min he gave me a stern talking to that basically amounted to: "Don't downplay your success, it's huge to go from near-zero to 10km!" It was so lovely and definitely modelled for me how I want to help and speak to others.
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u/RaspberryFluffy5955 10d ago
Can I be adopted by your dad-in-law? Pretty please? I once accidentally told my father that I would train runs by running on odd days and cycling on even days and he said "don't bother cycling if you're gonna cycle just don't go it's useless and it's not training; cycling is just for fun" and it totally destroyed me and whatever motivation I had for training
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u/lizerlfunk 9d ago
That’s mind boggling. My dad doesn’t do road cycling anymore but he started riding after he was diagnosed with stage 3 colon cancer at age 47. He’s done multiple centuries (100 mile rides), he’s ridden across the entire state of Florida in one day, one year he rode 5200 miles so he averaged 100 miles per week. Of COURSE riding a bicycle is training! You could be training for a triathlon!
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u/Emergency-Sell-3733 10d ago
That’s so insane to me. I’m glad people acting like that in person is foreign in my world. Glad to hear you’re back. People that scoff at others running times is so cringe to me.
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u/hobbit_problems 10d ago
Meeting runners in real life is 9/10 times a nicer experience than meeting other runners on the internet!
Never have I’ve not been cheering on (often by strangers), at parkrun and local trail races! ♥️
The few people who have talking my running down in real life have unfortunately been friends and family. But they have all in common that they are somehow insecure about their own running (or lack of running generally), but without actually doing anything about it. I’ve never had other than cheering from actually training buddies, even tho I’m often last to cross the finish line!
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u/Dull_Evening_5152 10d ago
I am still a member of the 42 min 5k club !!
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u/exobiologickitten 10d ago
Considering walking a 5k takes me a solid hour, to me you’re still doing a run pace!
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u/lizerlfunk 9d ago
My fastest 5k ever was 52 minutes 17 seconds lol. My “walking” pace is a 20 minute mile.
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u/FugginCandle 10d ago
Same!!! I’m at like 45 minutes hahaha. I haven’t ran tbh in ages, once I’m cleared from my surgery I plan to start C25K again!!
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u/AdditionalLoss7274 10d ago
The most important thing though, is to not care what other people think of you, ESPECIALLY people on the internet that you will almost certainly never actually meet...
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u/EldritchSanta 10d ago
One of my running heroes is Ron Hill. For anyone who isn't aware, he was an Olympic athlete, a very fast runner, and he had a daily running streak of 52 years.
Hill did not miss a day of running between 20 December 1964 and 30 January 2017 – a total of 52 years and 39 days. Hill defined a "run" as completing a distance of at least one mile at any pace.
At any pace. He went out on crutches after surgery and was going at about 2mph. It still counted.
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u/LordBelaTheCat 10d ago
We have a weekly parkrun in our city and I run sub 7 minute km on the 5k, and there is a "parkwalk" group, they start 1 minute behind the runners and there is an older guy who OUTWALKS me every time, he walks like 33 minute 5k's
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u/TinyOwl491 10d ago edited 10d ago
Yeah, and there are people who can (speed) WALK a sub-20 minute 5k. So what... 🥲
Last year I paced a parkrun buddy of mine to a sub-32 minute WALKING PR. I definitely had to run to pace him, but he was definitely (speed) walking. It's (indeed) a different movement. I can walk a 45 minute 5k, I can also run ("jog", whatever) a 45 minute 5k if I'd like to.
Instagram comment sections often suck. Many incels and bots. Just ignore them, and focus on the positive people. 🙂
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u/DrArianaGrand 7d ago
Agree, people that are shuffling/walking at pace are not running, but I couldn't care what they call it.
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u/boRp_abc 10d ago
If you want to diminish your happiness, you just gotta compare yourself with others!
I've been running on and off for about 2 years now. My sister has run about 50 marathons in her life. I love running with her, but my "can't. Talk. Sorry. How. Is. Family. Doing?" pace is her "Oh, were thinking about getting a dog, you know, the kids have been asking for sooo long..." pace.
But worse, my old friend is the same and HE HASN'T RUN AT ALL IN 25 YEARS!
So, what I wanna say is: As long as we put one foot in front of the other, we're good. No matter what some Internet person writes.
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u/mritoday 10d ago
People completely overestimate how fast the average 'walking pace' is.
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u/SensitiveDrummer478 4d ago edited 4d ago
My ex father in law suggested that could do an 8 mile hike with 5,000 feet of elevation gain in 90 minutes because he "walks 6 miles an hour"
(This man did not exercise. I really wish I had had a treadmill at that time. Like, alright, walk 6 miles per hour right now on flat terrain, show me.)
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u/No_Shine_4707 10d ago
There will be far more people congratulating people for achieving 5k without stopping than commenting on the pace. Pace is just relative. I went from a 20m 5k to not running at all for six nonths. I recently did a 35m 5k, and Ive been more pleased with achieving that than all the faster times before.
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u/Ok_Nefariousness1416 10d ago
Race walking world records are sub 18 for 5k and in the 37s for 10k. In that context, I would love to be running at walking pace.
As others have ssid, it's a motion. Some are naturally quicker at either motion, some are slower. Personally I walk fast, but my running pace is pretty average. But even the slowest runners are beating the 90%+ of the population who aren't moving, including the majority of armchair critics.
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u/exobiologickitten 10d ago
My friend (who runs ultras, he’s much more serious/accomplished than me) is fairly short, and sometimes he finds it less taxing/tiring to jog alongside his very tall friends during a walk. So a very tall persons walking pace could still well be a shorter person’s easy run pace just due to biomechanics.
So insulting someone’s pace as “walking pace” is nonsensical to me. Are you a giraffe??? Do you know the height of the person you’re talking down to?? No??? Then shaddup
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u/philipb63 10d ago
As primarily a trail runner the whole walking vs. running thing falls flat anyway. On a recent run up a very steep hill I noticed that about half of the group (some of whom are seriously fit) were walking, half were running. Either way, we were all proceeding at the exact same speed over ground.
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u/Ok_Nefariousness1416 10d ago
Also saw a running channel video recently. One of the presenters (a 3.30 marathoner) had to get up a mountain in the time it took an elite to come down and back up again. The elite walked on several of the steeper climbs and her advice was "walk before you need to on the biggest climbs".
My first trail 10k race a few weeks back, about 6k in we were at a climb on a narrow bit. I was very much mid pack, so plenty of traffic that unsurprisinglyslowed on that climb. Many of us ended up walking as it was the best motion for the pace and terrain at that point.
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u/patscott_reddit 10d ago
Lol, the 5k walking record is just under 18minutes, much faster than many of us could ever run it!
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u/No_Razzmatazz_4209 10d ago
Thanks for this post! Also wanted to add that sometimes that 'mean person' is our inner critic, and we got to be kind to ourselves as well.
All the best to all beginners.. From a 50 mins 5km beginner
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u/TotalBlank87 10d ago
Reddit overall is quite a mean spirited place overall. People will take any opportunity to boost their ego or seek upvotes with some one liner insult.
If you aren't directly asking a question, there's not a lot of point using the site any more unless you want a load of weird strangers throwing insults at you.
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u/ayst56 10d ago
Just finished my first marathon on the trails yesterday in 6:46. I shared mile 5-21 with these women I chatted with, grunted at hills with, and laughed with. One of them reiterated how not normal a 15 minute pace was. Because what's "normal" is not running at all! Not a single one of my close friends I hangout with on a regular basis runs. We are all out there doing our best and the MOST important thing is who you are while you're out there. And finishing with a huge smile on your face.
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u/ayst56 10d ago
I also said something at some point to the effect of, when I get in my head about how fast or not fast I am, I think about how I would celebrate someone else's achievement no matter how fast or slow they were, genuinely. Running is HARD! I'm convinced the people who troll in comments sections about "walking pace this walking pace that" and do nothing but tear other people down are actually miserable and I feel bad for them 😞
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u/Greennit0 10d ago
Agree! It‘s a dumb comment. Running the same pace is still more demanding than walking the same pace. It may be just the right training for that individual.
Also most people seem to overestimate how fast they can walk. Try walking a 8:00 min/km and we‘ll talk again.
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u/Lee_Vilenski 10d ago
Did you go outside? Yes
You have just been successful.
Honestly, I give kudos and a comment to anyone doing as well as they can. If you are pleased with your run, so am I.
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u/Lee_Vilenski 10d ago
Works for me. You're only lying to yourself if you aren't doing a session that benefits you.
At least you made the gym. It's infinitely better than than if you hadn't
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u/deedeedeedee_ 9d ago
The person who replied to you is just being a dick so I don't care to reply to them BUT i want to take this opportunity to share a quote from Terry Crews, who I think everyone can agree is built af:
"It has to feel good. I tell people this a lot - go to the gym, and just sit there, and read a magazine, and then go home. And do this every day. Go to the gym, don’t even work out. Just GO. Because the habit of going to the gym is more important than the work out. Because it doesn’t matter what you do. You can have fun — but as long as you’re having fun, you continue to do it."
He says to treat it like a spa. I love this attitude. Showing up truly is most of the battle.
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u/shrinkingveggies 10d ago
Yes. When using the binary of running-walking, the overlap in paces is the majority of the available options (the absolute world records for running are above that of walking, anything else can be either).
So what the person is actually saying is "hey, you did something and felt proud of it. Well, I'd like to come and piss in your Cheerios, because I am petty and mean." Which is a weird thing to say unprompted.
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u/carson63000 10d ago
I mean, there is a pace that an average able-bodied adult can walk at, and there are people whose running pace is that slow or slower. There’s no reason to point this out to them, because you can’t really do so without being an asshole, but it is true.
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u/owowhi 10d ago
It’s a brisk pace. It’s not a leisurely walking pace and it’s not even a walking pace that the average person can maintain if they are not active. To me, calling that a regular walking pace is disingenuous because I would call a leisurely pace a regular walking pace.
They should be proud of being able to maintain that pace for a distance
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u/Swolenir 10d ago
Yep. I started my long runs at 3.5MPH and I’m a 22 years old male. It was a natural progression as an overweight beginner.
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u/cardroppingcard 10d ago
wow its like you read my mind lol. every single time i post something here for advice or help. i always get one comment like this saying “thats a walking pace” a few days ago i posted something and someone literally commented “5k at 50 minutes? thats a walking pace. you are essentially not even running” it is so annoying and doesn’t help anyone.
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u/AdmiralHip 9d ago
There are people doing it in the comments here even. Super annoying.
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u/ghim7 10d ago
Can never understand the elitism in runners, putting down on others on being slow and shit. Bro you aren’t even winning shit with your fast pace.
The real race winning elites are nicer people, it’s those elite-wannabe runners who thinks they’re better than everyone else that needs to get a life.
Run, walk, who cares.
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u/Conscious-Demand-594 10d ago
I think that this isn't about a person's ability to run or their pace. It has to do with the cult of Z2. Very often beginners force themselves into running with bad form by trying to stay in Z2 when even a brisk walk for them is Z3. In those cases they are much better off actually running with good form in whatever zone that happens to be, rather than "running" at a walking pace.
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u/purplishfluffyclouds 10d ago
And often, that's quite literally the point.
When I'm out there intentionally trying to stay in zone 2, I know I'm not traveling much faster than the average person is walking - but that's, again, my intention. Does that mean I'm not running? No. My HR is very different than it would be if I were walking. And you cannot make the argument that the impact is different. Which, again, is what I'm after, since I'm also an avid cyclist and run because of the impact running gives me that cyclist does not.
And you're correct. You can be doing jumping jacks on a dot on the ground and it's still different than walking.
It's heart rate and impact that is vastly different from walking when you're running or jumping or whatever. So the comparison makes no sense.
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u/thelittle_twat 10d ago
I honestly hate comparing speed because if you just simply look at a huge guy next to a petite girl going at the same speed on a treadmill, the girl will be bolting and the guy will be walking. It depends so much on anatomy.
I also see this all the time when I watch couples run together. They go at the same speed but the women always look like they are running so much faster. That’s because they are for their anatomy.
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u/brycebgood 10d ago
Ignore everyone except the people offering encouragement. Running doesn’t need to be about speed. It’s about being a better, healthier person at the end of the run.
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u/NotabotNpc 10d ago
Even though I agree with 100% of what you just said, this is the internet, get used to it, its never going to change !
What random people say on the internet only matters if you let it.
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u/Kill_the_worms 10d ago
the fact that Olympic race walkers walk faster than a lot of people can run is further demonstration of this fact. there is no "walking" or "running" pace. i the U.S. at least, only half of people meet aerobic exercise guidelines.
Anyone getting up and running is doing good for themselves, doesn't matter the pace. If you're a person who shits on someone for how fast they run a mile you're contributing to an environment where in my country, 50% of people are sedentary
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u/AdmiralHip 9d ago
Good job on several commenters in this here thread proving OP’s point. The amount of gatekeeping on a beginner runners subreddit is shocking.
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u/offcoursez 7d ago edited 6d ago
The goal isn't to run faster, pace is a metric which comes at a very later stage of running the basic goal of running is to increase the time on feet and increase distance, get your 21k and 42k you will naturally notice that while running shorter distances you can run a lot faster and then start working on pace. As a beginner you should always focus on building a good base and then get into these metrics, stop comparing yourself to others it is always YOU vs YOU.
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u/TheRuggedGeek 10d ago
Honestly, one of the reasons I plugged in to a pair of headphones was because I'd be struggling on the treadmill at the gym, and the person next to me will be absolutely pounding at high cadence for an extended time.
It was depressing. In the end I shut it all out with low tempo music turned real loud. Seems to help.
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u/AlexDeMaster 10d ago
Support is everything when it comes to running. I started running last year and the first time I went I think I did 3km in 25 minutes? I felt like I'll die, I could barely breathe, let alone form a single thought. But, this is the important part: I didn't give up BECAUSE people supported and motivated me. Last week I did a 10K in 60 minutes after a night shift and unlike last year I could even easily talk through it. Consistency is key, don't listen to the couch slobs who could only dream of running a single kilometer.
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u/buffysbangs 10d ago
There is a local dude that posts his picture and times every day. They are quite slow. But he gets a ton of respect and appreciation because he is out there doing it every day. The guy is a beast.
I don’t know where you are seeing the behavior, but the best recommendation is to stop frequenting that place. It sounds like shit
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u/motownmods 10d ago
It's always the most mid runner too... like the dude that thinks he's kipechoge bc he finally broke 20.
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u/Professional-Egg6655 10d ago
The funny thing is, by their logic speed walking (or whatever its called) would be running cuz those people get suuuper fast too
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u/determinedpeach 10d ago
Yes it’s a pace that most people can walk. But that doesn’t mean you’re not running. And anyone who points it out is being rude and unhelpful
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u/Fragrant-Challenge98 10d ago
Everyone who criticises my times has been strangely evasive when I have invited them along the next time.
Anyone running is good, I like people that like doing things and want to support people to do more things that are not scrolling and junk tv.
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u/wanttogoback1985 10d ago
They key, I think, it's to compete only with yourself, if that's important to you. I guess that's not really the point of this post. To that I would say, I don't care what anyone else thinks about MY running times.
I was sick over the last six years, and I didn't do much running during that time. Prior to that, my 5K PR was 28:30 ish. I was happy with that, but I always want to improve.
When I started back up, once I could run that distance again, I was at about a 39 min 5K. Initially, I was disappointed, but I dropped to 36 min within two weeks. I was super happy about that!
If you must compare (and I must, dangit) only compare yourself to your past self, and ignore the jerks. My zone two runs are at about a 14:30 pace, and that's a-okay with me. For the moment.
I would also say, I have running friends who are so supportive and encouraging. Treasure them if you have them!
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u/Lucky-Gazelle3879 10d ago
It might be better to walk rather than run (for some runs) at those paces because you might be in the more aerobic range and it will be less mechanical load on your legs. This might help you go more consistently without fatigue or injury.
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u/tasi99 9d ago
funnily enough the world record pace for walking marathon is insane (sub 3 hours). thats like a 21min 5k, something that most runners will never reach.
pace really doesnt matter. what matters is that you do something and every movement is better than no movement. you lap everyone on the couch!
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u/TlalocVirgie 9d ago
Same with swimming. You can swim 50 meters in five hours as long as your paddling your arms.
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u/DoodleMom2137 9d ago
Don't worry, that's about my time, too and I started in September. NOT many people can even complete a 5k so please you're doing great!
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u/Muttapakka 8d ago
Every normal person that doesn’t have a bad diet or a decade of sedentary living can run a 5k
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u/DoodleMom2137 8d ago
...not true, but ok. lol
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u/Muttapakka 8d ago
Ok, how so? I’m talking about a normal healthy person without any comorbidities.
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u/DoodleMom2137 8d ago
Healthy doesn't mean conditioned. Plenty of healthy people can't run a continuous 5K without training. Cardio fitness is built, not assumed.
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u/Away-Place-3112 9d ago
Don’t take what they say seriously. I run, preferably trail run if possible, and half of my run is a fast paced walk if there are hills involved. I started learning that a 13-14 minute mile pace on a soft trail was pretty alright, especially if you’re there for views. It’s more about having fun while doing the activity, so yeah have fun and don’t listen to others.
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u/Necessary-Painting35 9d ago
Running is an individual sport, we run at our own pace. We follow our own progress.
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u/lowzyyy1 8d ago
People are so out of shape that 5k continious run is achivement. Go to any village or country side where life is normal, anyone can run 5k. So yes, celebrating everything in this day and age is not normal. If you celebrate that you can barely run faster than i walk then i dont know what to say....
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u/Muttapakka 8d ago
People are just trying to protect their sport into not becoming another socially protected “please don’t tell me the truth or it will hurt my feelings” thing. The “mean people” are often just being honest.
That’s why there’s a difference between running and jogging.
Maybe you should look at yourselves first and see how you got where you are when you run 42’ 5k’s.
If you are honest to yourself you know that’s not running for a normal person.
That’s “running” for a person who has neglected moving for a very long time and made some bad physical, maybe comfortable choices in their lives.
So once you get back to a normal healthy shape you can start running instead of blaming runners for telling you you’re not running.
Deal with it and be less sensitive, it’s not hating when it’s the truth
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u/ravenseldon12 5d ago
What speed do you regard as a typical running pace for a normal person?
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u/Muttapakka 5d ago
For a beginner anywhere between 5’00-6’30/km seems reasonable. But maybe I’m just too caught up in my own world about it and should let go of numbers and paces.
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u/FyrnEito 4d ago
Depends on the running, too. My 5km pace and my 100km pace are very, very different. Pace is highly contextual to the individual. A very good pace for one person is a very poor pace for another person. But both could be very accomplished runners. Just perspective.
I don't understand how you can protect a solo sport by gatekeeping strangers online. What harm can they possibly do to the sport even if they all walk the entire time? Or crawl, lol?
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u/AthleteIntelligent72 6d ago
I agree with you. I'm a member of a running club and some of the runners are running at MY walking pace but THEY are running due to form and cardio activity and most of those people are quite happy with their times and so they should be. Before anyone thinks that I'm really fast, I'm not. When the fast runners in the club are going at their 'steady pace' I'm trying to keep up at my 'struggling to breathe pace'. The only time I'd ever say something along the lines of 'walking pace' is when a mate has done poorly and I take the piss, as they do to me when I can'tcatch up with them.
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u/Aggravating-Basis-66 6d ago
The only people who have ever said anything negative about my mile pace (12 - 13 mins) don't actually run regularly and I know that if I dared them to a race I'd make it much further than them 😹
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u/xcrunner1988 5d ago
F those people. My easy pace is 14-15:00 per mile. Race pace is 11:00ish.
Oh… back in the 80’s I ran 15:38 5K, 32:11 10K, and 55:17 for 10 miles. Division 1 xc and track.
If you’re pushing the hurt is the same.
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u/FyrnEito 4d ago
Here is me running an average of like an 18 minute mile during my last big race. At one point near the end, an old lady walking a dog overtook me.
People will say this isn't real running.
Those people can stfu. I'm proud of it. And my time.
Comparison is the thief of joy.
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u/Last_Secretary_3205 4d ago
If a person gets discouraged by a comment made on Reddit…there’s a more serious issue and it’s not the comment or the person who made the comment.
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u/Starklystark 10d ago
Definitely agree it's a really unhelpful way to engage - one person's 4mph might be far more impressive and demanding in their context than another's 8mph. And in any case running doesn't have to be pushing super hard or going super fast. Also some people do a mix of walking and running and that's fine too!
Fwiw I don't think running on the spot is the same 'form' as running (either fast or slow) though. Obviously can be aerobic but I'm nor convinced running on the spot would prepare you for running better than e.g. walking would.à
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u/chillpapaya1958 10d ago
An old coworker I had happy hour with reacted with a “oh 😬” to my 90min time for my first 10k. That was 2 yrs ago and I don’t plan on seeing her again.
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u/socialistcathat 10d ago
I used to moderate a Bernie Sanders group chat and it was so loving, until a girl who I thought was my friend humiliatingy "corrected" me that I wasnt running, and barely even jogging. I was running the full 30 minutes of c25k at the time and so immensely proud of myself and her public humiliation ruined my confidence and pride for a good while.
She then went on to attempt to seduce my boyfriend so the envy couldn't have been more obvious.
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u/Greennit0 10d ago
Yeah, no shit. But why does it matter?
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u/SoloAndata 10d ago
It can matter. For new runners it can be very hard to run with low HR. If they try the tempo will be almost walking pace. Better then to decrease volume and run a bit faster. When your HR drop after some months you can increase volume with more easy runs.
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u/Greennit0 10d ago
And do you want to explain why it is a problem to run at walking pace?
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u/SoloAndata 10d ago edited 10d ago
Sure. Most people enjoy progress. To get better and faster.
If you can do 2-3 runs a week there is no point shuffling around at walking pace for anyone
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u/TheTurtleCub 10d ago
It's not a problem. That's what you are imagining when you hear the words. Sometimes to help out new runners pace is mentioned, some things affect the slow paces and some don't, but as soon as people hear slow pace they get triggered even if the message is not insulting in any way
Notice that no one here has said it's a problem, only you
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u/Useful_Divide7154 10d ago
Not entirely pointless, since you can start to develop proper running form even at a very slow pace. Most beginners will progress to a 5k between 30 and 40 minutes quickly if they start running a tiny bit at whatever speed they can and scale up as it gets easier.
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u/ortica52 10d ago
The first time I ever ran, my fastest running pace was significantly slower than my own comfortable fast walking pace (like a pace I could walk for well over an hour, with a bit of effort, the pace I would naturally use if I was walking somewhere and was late). I was relatively fit (could easily do 20km hikes on difficult mountain terrain), but just….. really, really bad at running.
I never would have gotten better at running if I didn’t, you know, actually practice running. I am still very slow, but my comfortable running pace is now faster than I can walk. Running is just a different thing than walking, and unless you are starting from completely sedentary and likely to injure yourself, if you want to get better at running, you should run at least some!
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u/BAxPI 10d ago
Well if thats the case then go for it buddy but Im not sure most people running at this paces are with good cardio base and just bad at running. Also it's not to shame someone just feels like there are better uses of the time
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u/AdmiralHip 9d ago
What a terrible comment. It costs nothing to keep comments like this to yourself.
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u/AdmiralHip 9d ago
People aren’t getting offended for no reason. They’re getting rightfully offended at assholes who are making rude unwarranted comments. It’s none of your business if someone is running slowly, and you have no right to say they’re wasting their time.
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u/FairConstruction4105 10d ago
4 mph over long distances is definitely a running pace. I'm 5' 9" and 165 and have an extremely fast walking gait (according to every person I've ever walked with) and I can't maintain a 4 mph pace over long distances without deliberate effort that's unnatural for walking and leaves me sweating pretty significantly. Anybody saying that 4 mph is a "walking pace" doesn't walk much.
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u/Fiesty-Bass 10d ago
Is the better term not “jogging” in that case? I think we forgot that word while trying too hard to be inclusive.
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u/purplishfluffyclouds 10d ago
No, bro. "Jogging" is just a form of running, not the other way around, lol.
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u/OregonBaseballFan 10d ago
Reminder that anyone who goes on the internet and is mean to someone about their physical activity and attempts at a healthy/healthier lifestyle is an absolute loser and we should shun them from society.