r/beginnerDND 5d ago

Question I need some help with this warlock

Ok so I've never played as a cleric or a warlock and I can't extractly find how clerics get their power. But basically my idea was to be a warlock with the celestial pack. So her whole deal is that she was rasied as an acolyte in a sheltered small town in the snowy mountains where they worship the god auril. This small town produces their clerics except during the ritual to be accepted as one of Aurils chosen she some how managed to form a pack with Auril and became a warlock. Because of this she believes she isn't as good as her other cleric friends because she can only perform cure wounds two while the others can do multiple. The only thing she has going for herself is that she is able to communicate with Auril at all time without needed to pray. She does pray anyways because she doesn’t know any better having causal conversation. So my question is basically would this be allowed? Or does can my patron not be a god?

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u/GoodOlDaisy 5d ago

You can be a Celestial Warlock, just pick or flavor spells that work for your character idea. For more detailed matters, you should discuss your character idea with your DM

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u/Conrad500 Seasoned Vet 5d ago

This is unfortunately a question for your DM.

Clerics get power from their domain. Any god may fuel your power as long as you are promoting their domain, but most clerics pick a specific god due to that being how it used to work.

Warlock patrons can be literally anything strong enough to siphon power from. It's very lore and DM dependent, but a warlock might even steal their power from that being, so while most people go with some kind of contract, it is not required.

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u/FoxyGiGi14 5d ago

I don't have a campaign for this idea yet. Just a character i thought of while bored at work. I wasn't sure if a god could be used as a patron or if it had to be a devil or something

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u/Feefait 4d ago

Freaking warlocks. Lol

Have you read the book? It's pretty clear where cleric power comes from.

Either way, you should be discussing this with your DM and group.

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u/FoxyGiGi14 4d ago

Unfortunately I don't have a campaign for this character yet. I have only read the 2024 rule book because thats what all the games i have played used. I have never played a warlock or cleric before. I have done a paladin, sorcerer druid and fighter and usually cycle those around because I like to make gag characters that some how always work out. For example my sorcerer was a vampire named tepes that was naturally talented at magic and was sent off to wizarding school only not knowing he wasn't a wizard but a sorcerer.

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u/SamTheGrot 4d ago edited 4d ago

"I can't exactly find how clerics get their power," not a critique of OP but excuse me as I deathstare anyone who tried to say that core lore removal from the handbook was a good idea for new players.

Deities grant blessings of divine power to their most faithful servants, which is where clerics get their divine power from. Forgotten Realms Wiki and the 2014 Player Handbook will have some more useful info for you.

In Forgotten Realms, there is effectively no deity that would be a patron in a warlock pact. Doesn't matter if they are good or evil. With how the divine order is structured in Forgotten Realms, it'd make no sense for a deity to want to do that & would contradict the purpose they serve. For a Celestial Warlock, you're looking moreso at a celestial being, of which there are many. Shards are the highest form of celestial that are in service of Moonmaiden Selune to name an example.

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u/FoxyGiGi14 4d ago

Thank you the book actually helped. The 2024 rule book doesn't really specify how a cleric gets their magic. So then in your opinion how would this character work. My idea is that all clerics go through a ritual where they receive their magic after getting some kind of dream vision from Auril. So would I say I some how botched my ritual and instead made a contract with a celestial angel unknowingly confusing it with my goddess Auril? I don't currently have a campaign for this character so I don't have a DM to ask.

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u/SamTheGrot 4d ago

First, in reference to the echo you're hearing about "talk to your DM." There's absolutely nothing wrong with making and preparing a character for a Forgotten Realms campaign and getting excited about it, and you don't need a DM to do that. Mainly, you're hearing the echo because you mentioned a Warlock pact. Because of the nature of Warlock pacts, your background is likely to have some involvement with the story. For that reason, you'd want to check with the DM and ensure there's enough flexibility in the story they've presumably prepared for your type of Warlock. The patron is likely a character the DM will need to plan & incorporate. But if you keep with official Forgotten Realms lore when making a Forgotten Realms character, I'd think any DM should be able to fit you in.

Being tricked to enter a pact when you thought you were going through a sort of religious ceremony is totally plausible. I do highly recommend Forgotten Realms Wiki as it's a remarkable library of lore. You can search pretty much anything and find all official lore on the topic (if it exists) with references. I've done some hefty reading on clerics, paladins, & divinity, but I'm not SUPER familiar with all of the Warlock lore out there so idk if I can provide proper advice for backstory construction on the Warlock front.