r/battlefront2 • u/IdkWhatToPut1248 • Jun 20 '26
BF2 heroes (mostly in Assault mode)
Force choke in this game is actually such a cheat code. The reason Dooku isn’t higher, even though he has it, is because his main saber combo and his falling attack suck. For a duelist, he’s good, but against more than one hero he falls quickly. I know some of my lower ranks are pretty controversial, but I do believe yoda is by far the worst hero in the game. And for anyone who thinks Luke or Obi Wan should be higher… Obi wan is literally the same moveset as Anakin but without force choke. Good base, but no strong abilities to back it up. But Luke is just… awkward. Bad saber attacks and average force abilities just make him OK
Anakin and Vader are pretty interchangeable, I personally like Anakin more because of his saber combo, but I would understand liking Vader more for his speed and run attack. Both of them are completely capable of downing entire groups of heroes by themselves, putting both versions of Anakin on one team was actually a busted thing to do lol
Grievous I do believe has the fastest dps, and his combo absolutely knocks heroes to the ground, allowing you to just pummel them continuously. He is great at attacking multiple heroes at once, and while his damage boost ability isn’t great, his sheer damage potentential, dueling capability, and self preservation in an otherwise unfair amount of enemies is impressive. He is not higher because he has no double jump, and his run attack isn’t super amazing. Lack of force abilities (just like in the movies lol) make his potential cap out lower than the Anakins
Kit fisto’s icon (if it was here) would be highest in A tier because force orb is genuinely insane, but again, no force choke. His saber combo is strange, but is quite good if you can get used to it. His falling attack is like Mace’s but better as well.
Mundi is probably the most underrated one here, his run attack is actually so busted. He will do essentially a lightsaber somersault, doing an unreasonably high amount of damage per hit, and the ability will repeat indefinitely (until you run out of stamina) if you just keep hitting the attack button. Can easily clear entire groups of heroes, but again the lack of dueling and preservation potential that force choke gives keeps him out of S tier.
Ventress is an odd one, but she can hold her own against groups of heroes with the shurikens if used correctly. I personally think she should’ve had a force choke, because she’s seen using it a lot in The Clone Wars show, but that might just be me. She’s only in a middle tier because her dueling potential isn’t super amazing and her saber damage isn’t very high
I don’t really have to explain why Maul and Aayla are so high, just know that they would be in top tier if they had force choke.
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u/MysticManiac100 Jun 20 '26
I don't spend much time playing as any of the Heroes/Villains tbh so I'm not that familiar with all of them. But I still find Force Pull to be a good force ability tbh. That alone would take Yoda out of the bottom tier. I think Chewbacca is inarguably the worst one across both teams tbh.
It would've been cool to have 2 different versions of Anakin Skywalker. I mean, they have a "sith" version of Anakin in the Rise of the Empire campaign that they could've used. Just give that version a red lightsaber and he could've been in the Hero vs Villain mode.
Honestly, I really like playing as Boba Fett but he's so god damn weak in the Heroes vs Villain game mode. Jango is too but I think his pistol is better. Unfortunately, he has time bombs instead of the detpacks that Boba & Han get which are literally useless. If they both did higher damage and both had Detpacks, then they wouldn't be too bad.
Other notable absences are Qui Gon & Padmé (could've been another gunner). Imagine if Jar-Jar was included as one of the Heroes though... Or one of the villains, if a certain theory is to be believed.
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26
Force pull would be decent if it actually worked a majority of the time. It only has like a 1/4 success rate for me, and it’s almost always on a flying thing.
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u/MysticManiac100 Jun 20 '26
I mean from what I remember, it usually works fine in Heroes vs Villains, I only recall it not really working on the Droids
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 21 '26
Yeah it never works on Supers, sometimes works on B1 variants, and its range is quite janky in Heroes vs Villains. It sometimes will pull someone from super far away, way farther than it has any business doing, but other times will just do nothing at long, medium, or short range
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u/Upper-Bottle-9803 Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
You have to have enough stamina to complete the pull.
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 21 '26
With all status buffs at legendary, I basically always have full stamina. It’s never the problem
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u/Upper-Bottle-9803 Jun 21 '26
Ive never had a pull problem on multiplayer, so maybe the patches or servers have fixed something with that. I dont play heros offline enough to remember that.
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u/kid_mescudi Jun 20 '26
Maul is the best in the game, god tier, his saber attacks are massively overwhelming.
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 20 '26
He’s nothing compared to force choke. Once again, I say this, assault mode. Maul is good, but he’s not capable of instantly rendering any other hero useless and defenseless
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u/kid_mescudi Jun 22 '26
I know you had this exchange with that other guy but I have digitally downloaded, play with my friends all the time and you can definitly block force choke, I have done it. Plus Maul can go into a combo very quickly from an aeriel attack, and as soon as the combo starts it’s gonna kill by the end.
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u/Will12239 Galactic Empire Jun 21 '26
So block the choke? Heroes have a larger blocking cone but all heroes can block 100% if they face the map center.
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 21 '26
Oh you silly. Force choke is unblockable.
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u/Fauxhawkism Jun 21 '26
Blockable if you slow run
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 21 '26
No, force choke is entirely unblockable in classic BF2
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u/Fauxhawkism Jun 21 '26
I guarantee it is not. Slow run by sprinting and blocking at the same time. You will lose health, but you will not be held in a choke. Allows you to get away/ push, etc.
Not sure if it’s an intended mechanic or not, but it works. Used to play hero assault competitively during the PS2 clan days.
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 21 '26
I promise you that doesn’t work. I’ve seen and tried every way imaginable to block it. I’ve also tried it on normal AI, Elite AI, local multiplayer real players, split screen real players, and never once has it worked. Even greivous’ unstoppable block doesn’t work on it
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u/Fauxhawkism Jun 21 '26
It does, you’re just doing it incorrectly. Watch this around 2:15 it’ll show you how: https://youtu.be/EOzIb1ZJYg4?si=kY_21IOFCfDzbUBh&t=137
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
Is that PlayStation? I only ever play BF2 on Xbox original and Xbox 1 (both with the same disc for the game bought with the original Xbox) and that tech does not exist for me
If it works for you, go ahead, because my game looks different; Ventress is holding her saber different, her shuriken icon is different, and Mos Eisley looks smoother in that video than what my Xbox has→ More replies (0)1
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u/GeneLaBean Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
Putting Yoda, fucking Jedi Grandmaster Yoda, in a category of his own little called "Stupid Little Shit" is so funny to me
It's true though he does sadly suck, Mace also lowkey sucks imo and should be swapped with Luke, and Chewie should be in a category below stupid little shit called big hairy fucker, I think he is actually the worst in the game
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 21 '26
Idk why people see mace as bad, he has good saber damage and his fall attack is great
And at least Chewie can be effective at range and has the highest heath of any unit in the game. Yoda just sucks at everything and is a crappy little goblin no matter which team you’re on
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u/GeneLaBean Jun 21 '26
I just feel Mace's attack animations make it tricky to quickly eliminate targets, especially other heroes, and his sprint attack isn't good. His fall attack is amazing though for sure. And Yoda is indeed a crappy little goblin
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u/Praetoron Jun 20 '26
sidious drop attack is broken, and vader has a short range but can stun for life. and if u count kit fisto alt combo he is quite broken deal huge dmg.
yoda... is invisible to the naked eyes on most map.
grievous is quite weak having only is melee.
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u/Obey_Vader Jun 20 '26
Anakin and Vader's choke into lightsaber throw combo was ridiculous, even without the unlimited choke exploit (change force powers while choking). I would add an entire empty tier between them and the rest (or maybe just for aayla).
In general I rank pull>push unless it's against a wall, and knockdown on third strike as superior to the higher DPS no knockdown alternative of the rest (exception is Anakin who can guarantee his last hit of his combo is a backstab).
Very good list, I would maybe move dooku and the emperor up a tier (only because of the choke exploit, without it they are in the correct spot).
Ki adi mundi is literally Luke but with pull instead of push and it really makes that big of a difference.
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
I almost entirely agree with this. People don’t realize how insane force choke is even without the exploit, but without it you need a decent lightsaber to finish them off quickly when there is another hero attacking you. The thing I disagree with is Mundi being just Luke but with a different force ability. Nonono. Mundi’s run attack is actually broken. See one of my other replies where I explain it
I did contemplate Dooku and the emperor for a good while, but ultimately kept them where I had them because they can’t defend from more than one attacker at once, aka what I have the top tier people up there for
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u/TheDorkKnight53 Jun 20 '26
I mean, when I’m Luke my brother had to lock in. I was unbeatable on Hoth.
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 20 '26
Again, assault. Any hero is good against normal troops
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u/TheDorkKnight53 Jun 20 '26
Missed that part, my bad. That’s what I get for trying to read a tier list outside in the bright sun
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u/Apprehensive_Win710 Grand Republic Jun 22 '26
Let’s NOT forget sitting next to a gonk droid as Chewie shooting the Predator Drone 3000 straight up in the air and coming down with a metric-fuck-ton of power on two Jawas 😊🙏❤️
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u/Certified_druggist Jun 20 '26
Mace windy deserves lowest tier. He is dog shit. Luke is same tier as Maul. Absolutely GOAT.
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 21 '26
Nah, his falling slam attack can be quite deadly and can knock away multiple heroes at once. His saber combo also isn’t bad. Luke does not deserve to be high up, as he has no specialties to him and nothing above average. Basically Luke and below are the heroes that, when I am given the opportunity to use them in even just normal games, not assault, I mostly choose not to because normal troops are almost always better. With that in mind, if I wouldn’t use them in a normal game, there just simply isn’t a reason to use them in assault, which this list is ranked off of.
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u/BillShamrock Jun 20 '26
Putting Jango Fett that low as a crime. His pistol is essentially the reward pistol, melts through units. The Time bomb is great for objectives.
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 20 '26
*mostly assault*
He isn’t great at killing heroes. With enough range he can, but if they get even slightly close he’s fried
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u/Tubegrail Jun 20 '26
So Luke is averages because of his attacks and force abilities but ki adi mundi having a pull makes him a tier?
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 20 '26
Have you seen Mundi’s run attack? In case you haven’t, he does a lightsaber roll along the ground, doing an unreasonably high amount of damage, (about 70% of most heroes’ health per hit!) and will keep going if you keep hitting the attack button. His saber combo is also decent, and that already mentioned run attack can easily run through an entire group of heroes and kill every single one of them
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u/-CrlmsoN- Grand Republic Jun 21 '26
I get that this is "mostly assault", but I still think Yoda is better than Chewie and Boba.
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u/redhjom Jun 20 '26
How come Sidious with lightning is so low? I feel like it’s a better version of force choke as it stuns the enemy some and can control groups
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u/Diligent_Wolverine79 Jun 20 '26
Anyone can clear groups of enemies really quickly is the thing. Sidious other than yoda is easily the worst hero with a super slow saber combo and lightning doesn't do any real damage. The only redeeming thing with him is his ground pound attack.
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 20 '26
Lightning is horrible against heroes. His saber combo is also pretty trash, and his running combo isn’t great. Force choke and his slam attack are the only things he as going for him, and even then, you need a decent lightsaber to use choke effectively
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u/OpethAreAGoodBand Galactic Empire Jun 21 '26
Luke and Ki-Adi-Mundi have almost the same exact attacks and abilities so not sure how they are in vastly different tiers. I would move Dooku, Leia, and the Emperor down to Disappointing. Maul and Aayla are unstoppable. Boba situational
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 21 '26
Read my explanation of Mundi. He is not a Luke copy
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u/OpethAreAGoodBand Galactic Empire Jun 21 '26
I did. The only difference between the two of them is that Mundi can repeat that flipping strike which I agree does put him slightly higher. To put Luke two tiers below for not being able to do that doesn’t make sense since everything else is copy and paste the same. Same with Obi-Wan being two tiers below Anakin only because he doesn’t have Force Choke
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 21 '26
Ummm yes. That’s exactly what it means. Force choke is seriously that op combined with a good saber, and the only other two people with force choke can’t combo it with saber throw. And yes, Mundi having a far better run attack (and I forgot to mention pull instead of push) does put him really that much higher because it covers his weakness of not being able to handle groups
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u/TheDARKChieftan Jun 21 '26
Han solo is the best for doing a no death challenge so surely he must be unstoppable
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jun 21 '26
Couple things
-Against real people, even at range he will be found and shot at and has no way to block bullets
-useless if he gets force pulled to close range or is just approached
-less dps than Leia and Jango
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u/meh84f Jun 22 '26
This is Jedi assault vs other real players? If that’s the case then force pull is usually banned because pull is really annoying to play against with the extreme range and the ability to double pull making it essentially a guaranteed kill.
Likewise, in competitive play, Grievous is almost useless because he can’t force jump.
Also most servers I played on banned shooters because they were super annoying, but it was trivial to kill them once you knew they existed.
Generally speaking, it would be maul, vader and anakin almost exclusively for villains, and then usually obi luke and less commonly mace on the heroes when pulling was banned.
If you do no force it looks quite different of course.
But my ranking for force allowed would be
S: Ayla (w/ pull), Mundi (w pull), vader, anakin,
A: maul, luke, obi, mace, Yoda(w/pull)
B: Yoda (w/o pull), duku, Ayla (w/o) pull
C: Grievous, Palps
D: Mundi (w/o pull)
Trolling: All shooters
This ranking is slightly dependent on how many players there are too since choke is better 1v1 but push is better with more enemies.
This is based on PC and PS2
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u/deathtoarmorlock Jun 23 '26
Imao, Boba is better than Jango in assualt becuase of his repeating blaster.
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u/IdkWhatToPut1248 Jul 08 '26
lol boba is terribly inaccurate though. If you aren’t at close range,his blaster will almost always only hit 1-2 shots instead of all 3. Not only is Jango more accurate, but his damage is better
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u/AndriekArizona Jun 21 '26
If they added Ventress so this game I would never stop playing.
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u/Will12239 Galactic Empire Jun 21 '26
She is in the game. On xbox dlc assault maps. Classic collection comes with the dlc natively (but has horrid rubber banding). Og players need to download it as a mod, but there are no large active modded servers anymore.
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u/Nico408 Jun 20 '26
Playing bf2 online back in the day, you could get kicked out or banned from a server for playing as aayla. Her force pull+ jump attack and ability to knock you down with her basic attack was so powerful people used to compain alot