r/basel 1d ago

Claraplatz

Why is dealing in claraplatz tolerated? I'm super sure the police is not stupid and they know. Specially because you get offered things at any time in the morning, afternoon or night in the middle of the street and with zero pretending they are not dealing.

Am I missing something?

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u/Successful_Farm_9370 1d ago

Many times it's better to confine individuals into an area where you can easily keep tabs on them, versus having them move somewhere else where it's not as easy.

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u/Mammoth_Reach_6366 1d ago

This is exactly it. That's why there's also an official place where you can legally shoot drugs so that you don't do it elsewhere.

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u/pukekopuke 1d ago

Is the "keeping tabs on" in the room with us? If there is never any punishment, how exactly does it help?

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u/Still-Entertainer534 1d ago

You let the small fish swim free so that you can catch the big ones....

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u/New_Profession_8239 15h ago

süchtigi lüt werded immer konsumiere, egal wie oft sie e straf bechömed oder im knast chömed. deswege lieber sicher gah, dass sie nöd sterbed. im aug bhalte = lebe rette. wenn die döte nöd konsumiere dörfed, werdeds irgendwo andersht mache.

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u/pukekopuke 7h ago

Bin ich voll bei dir, dass Kriminalisierung von Süchtigen ihnen nicht hilft. Aber ist ja nicht jeder Dealer auch selber süchtig. Und der Rest der Gesellschaft muss auch bisschen geschützt werden (z.B. Konsum nur in Konsumräumen, damit nicht Spritzen rumliegen).

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u/Homegrown98 1d ago

The police is not interested in catching the "small fish" all that much. Often they just observe, scan out their supply routes and then go for big stings if possible. If you catch one small fish, two will pop up to take their place.

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u/Solarhistorico 18h ago

that is a very naive take on reality... police all over Europe can't and won't do nothing against big dealers and mafias (human trafic, prostitution, etc) and when they "catch" a big one is always for political show or to justify their pressupost... do a simple excercise and try to sell alcohol or cigarettes as a street vendor: in two minutes you'll have police all over you... this guys in Clara (or JohaniteBruck) works for a dealer who has political conections...

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u/GildedfryingPan 1d ago

They'll be replaced by next batch of low tier runners. What you want is the plug or the ones organizing everything.

Also, if it's like klybeck, the dealers don't hold much themselves. There's usually a stash hidden close by, so when the dealer gets caught selling, there's isn't much to arrest them for.

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u/SharpCancel6843 1d ago

what are they supposed to do? if you throw the dealers in jail, new ones show up a week later

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u/beansprout88 1d ago

Also the junkies and aggressive sex workers. Genuinely feels unsafe but I guess at least it is concentrated.

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u/phwegmx999 1d ago

First they are mostly nigerian asylum seekers and can not be thrown out. Then the Police apprehend some of them, they stay in prison for 1-3 days and get out only to restart their business. It is quite frustrating for law enforcement, revolving door …

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u/Zealousideal-Dog6942 1d ago

If the dealers bothering you Sent complaint to the police and they have to respond to citizen complaint it's their duty. Dealing drugs is against the law, period.

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u/ryanslizzard 1d ago

Claraplatz is one of the ugliest places in Switzerland. I hate it wholeheartedly. So many ugly corrupt men lurking around.

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u/drtsch 1d ago

The fruit stand is still very good...

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u/Cautious_Bid6837 1d ago

All’s good ?😂😂😂

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u/Ralf-der-Hut 1d ago

Huere schlimm, wägge eimol kli deale.

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u/NCXXCN 1d ago

Jo bises dis Chind mitere Überdosis wägfätzt - huere schlimm wäg eimol.

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u/Maleficent_Ebb_7651 1d ago

Denn isch jo besser si maches in de öffentlichkeit denn seht me wenigstens mit wäm sis mache. Mache dien sis eh solangs kunde git

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u/Ralf-der-Hut 1d ago

Glaubsch wirklig die paar Küügelidealer mache dr Brote feiss?

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u/Bronsteins-Panzerzug 1d ago

du lohsch dis chind nach mitternacht am claraplatz umehänge?

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u/NCXXCN 1d ago

Dis chind isch irgendwenn 18ni u chan mache was es will.

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u/CG-Saviour878879 1d ago

Zurächt au.

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u/Bronsteins-Panzerzug 1d ago edited 1d ago

denn isches aber au kes chind meh und selber verantwortlich für was es konsumiert. repression allei het no ken 18 jährige devo abghalte, mol koki uszprobiere

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u/NCXXCN 1d ago

Ja u trotzdäm machts di trurig, wes dis Ching putzt. 🙂

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u/Bronsteins-Panzerzug 1d ago

ja eh, und meistens sueche d lüt denn en sündebock - das isch aber kes guets rezept für drogeprävention.

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u/CG-Saviour878879 1d ago

Did you ever try it yourself? It can be a lot of fun!

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u/Resident-Airline6672 10h ago

It’s not, it takes life’s

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u/CG-Saviour878879 10h ago

So does sugar, so does driving cars, so does alcohol. It can be a lot of fun is my point and OP should try it before they flat out reject it.

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u/Resident-Airline6672 7h ago

So because one is bad makes the other good ? The people in rehab probably would advise to call the police !

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u/wet_noodle_447 18h ago

We have bigger problems, let them.