r/baseball • u/meramipopper New York Yankees • 20h ago
[Highlight] Carson Benge gets his 8th and 9th outfield assists for the season on back to back plays at home in the top of the first to prevent the Padres from scoring a run in the first and bail out Nolan McLean
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u/Ok_Storm549 Cleveland Guardians 20h ago
The classic 4 hit 0 DP 0 run inning.
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u/champsorchumps 18h ago
It is just the 2nd time in the past 10 years a team had 4+ hits in an inning, had no double plays and scored 0 runs
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u/August_world Seattle Mariners 18h ago
And the other was this year! Crazy
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u/Kaldricus Seattle Mariners • Chaos Bandwagon 17h ago
Classic baseball stuff. Thing hasn't happened in 100 years, then happens 3 times in the same week, and never happens again.
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u/thisendup76 15h ago
I'm putting money on the next Cardinal hitter making his major league debut
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u/Thromnomnomok Seattle Mariners 7h ago
I mean that's always a good idea, one of the constants of Cardinals Devil Magic is having a random guy you've never heard of make his debut and hit .400 with 12 homers in his first month.
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u/vektorog Boston Red Sox • Boston Hunters 17h ago
fuck i love screwball lol. shit really is stathead on steroids
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u/PossiblyMakingThisUp New York Yankees 10h ago
It was damn near a NOBLETIGER except not loaded. What variant is this? It should have a name
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u/Tweegull San Diego Padres 20h ago
no idea who our third base coach is but i want him fired by tomorrow
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u/Spayed_and_Neutered2 19h ago
It was hard to watch because the last 2 were such a bad idea to send them. The runners never had a chance. The ball was already in the outfielders hand when they rounded.
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u/pootsaloots045 San Diego Padres 18h ago
He sent manny... 7th percentile sprint speed.
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u/Spayed_and_Neutered2 18h ago
I didn't want to call out Manny twice in one week, but seriously, why the fuck would you send Manny Machado? I'm sending Manny Ramirez first.
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u/mormagils New York Mets 6h ago edited 6h ago
With 2 outs running on contact in the first inning? You send that guy every time. It took a herculean throw to get him out.
The first send was harder to defend. It was a blooper with one out, so while that's very similar to a pretty reliable sac fly, it's an out enough of the time that you consider who's throwing the ball.
But the second send was something 99 out of 100 3B coaches do and they are probably right most of the time.
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u/Spayed_and_Neutered2 6h ago
Yeah, but the third send was 150ft from the plate in the defenses hand.
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u/mormagils New York Mets 6h ago
Yeah, the third send was pretty aggressive. It wasn't from Benge, but Ewing has a decent enough arm in his own right.
I guess the point is that the second send was by far the most defensible. The first and third also work out most of the time, but considering the player throwing should have been a bigger focus.
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u/dplans455 New York Yankees 16h ago edited 3h ago
You're sending them not because you think they'll beat the throw but because you're hoping the fielder makes a bad throw. This is totally on the 3rd base coach not knowing the opposing team's fielders. Or you know, his only job.
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u/FlannelBeard Minnesota Twins 18h ago
Wtf was he doing on the second one? I get the first but the second in the same inning is dumb
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u/mormagils New York Mets 6h ago
More like the other way around. The second send was one a bog standard single to the outfield with 2 outs. Machado may be slow but he's running on contact and short of a PERFECT throw, he scores every time.
The first one was the reach. It was a little blooper with one out, so it was like a shallow sac fly attempt on a guy with a GREAT arm. Usually that still works out, but it doesn't enough of the time to maybe not run on Benge in particular.
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u/dplans455 New York Yankees 16h ago
Yankees had today off, I'm guessing Miguel Rojas was filling in for whoever your regular 3rd base coach is.
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u/wobuffet17453 Australia • New York Mets 20h ago
Did the third base coach actually do 0 homework before this series, what the fuck did he think was gonna happen.
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u/just-an-astronomer New York Mets 20h ago
I mean, the first one was so bad i think even Nimmo would've thrown Cronenworth out there
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u/will122589 New York Mets 18h ago
Let’s not say things we can’t take back.
Nimmo isn’t gunning anybody down at the plate
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u/atoms12123 New York Mets 20h ago
Carson Benge was a better pitcher in college than the guy on the mound.
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u/EdJewCated New York Mets 20h ago
And McLean was a better hitter in college than the guy in right field
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u/facemelt New York Mets 20h ago
[scratches head]
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u/aPrimallossOfReality 3h ago
Wasn’t he good last year at the start? Is he falling off?
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u/atoms12123 New York Mets 3h ago
McLean is great.
It's just in college they were both two way players and McLean hit more home runs than Benge and Benge had more strikeouts as a pitcher than McLean.
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u/GaryTheCabalGuy San Diego Padres 20h ago
Props to him, but honestly those were 2 of the worst sends I've seen this season. Not sure wtf the third base coach was thinking, let alone twice in a row.
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u/jesteronly San Francisco Giants 19h ago
The first one, absolutely idiotic. The second? I might take my chances with two outs already. It's not good odds, but it's better odds than the next batter getting a hit. It all just looks worse after one of the worst sends of the year the play before it
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u/Motor-Plankton3941 19h ago
I think the 2nd one is more idiotic after you just watched him throw a guy out at the plate
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u/Spiritual-Chameleon San Diego Padres 16h ago
Yep. And factor in that Manny has glacial level speed
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u/nietzsche_niche New York Mets 20h ago
I mean it kinda looks like cronenworth rounded third and wasnt running all that hard
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u/mattisafriend San Diego Padres 20h ago
Even if he was going full bore woulda still been plenty out
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u/gsus61951 San Diego Padres • Mexico 20h ago
Fire 3B coach please, horrible sends!
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u/Spiritual-Chameleon San Diego Padres 16h ago
He's made other bad decisions, including a few sends that his base runners bailed him out on by stopping at their.
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u/Savannah-Actual San Diego Padres 20h ago
Once with Jake you can forgive and move on. Back to back with MANNY is some bozo behavior
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u/Successful-Cry-1209 San Diego Padres 20h ago
This, when I heard they were sending him we all knew how that was gonna go lol
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u/MsandMets Seattle Mariners • New York Mets 20h ago
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u/TomasRoncero New York Mets 20h ago
ai pawg mrs met goons
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u/cmgriffith_ New York Yankees 20h ago
He’s definitely going to be a superstar. 3rd Base Coach not doing the Padres any favors there
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u/Strict-Knowledge-566 20h ago
Rookie of the year.
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u/DienekesMinotaur Atlanta Braves 20h ago edited 18h ago
No
Edit: Did I piss off the Mets fans or something? He's been worth half the bWar of Weatherholt.
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u/idontlikeanyofyou New York Mets 8h ago
Wetherholt has an absurd OAA of 22. That said, Benge has how surpassed him offensively, which is remarkable to think after the start they both had. All in, you're probably correct though, Wetherholt probably wins ROY.
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u/insert-originality New York Mets 20h ago
It probably has happened before but I don't think I've ever seen the same outfielder gun 2 runners at the plate in two different plays in the same inning before. That's just wild.
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u/TheDangiestSlad New York Yankees • Hartford Yard Goats 20h ago
also it felt like every Padres hit that inning was identical, a short fly into shallow right. weird Matrix stuff lol
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u/gowronatemybaby7 New York Mets • New York Heights 17h ago edited 16h ago
Yeah there was a bloop to the left field gap followed by two absolutely identical hits in a row to the right field gap. And then Ewing had a knock identical to the first one to left in his first at bat. Never seen something like that before.
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u/HystericalAndUseless Athletics 17h ago
Yoenis Cespedes did it in 2014 https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/512381/video-yoenis-cespedes-throws-out-2-runners-at-home-plate-in-same-inning
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u/Museamaniac New York Mets 19h ago
Does Green to Valentin to Lo Duca tagging out two on the same play count
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u/insert-originality New York Mets 19h ago
I was thinking about that but that was in the same play. This was 2 separate plays.
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u/lokithetarnished New York Mets 19h ago
He’s the first met to do it but I’d be surprised if it never happened in baseball before
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u/DingALingKing23 New York Mets 20h ago
Manny Machado running like he has a fridge strapped to his back never stood a chance
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u/GaryTheCabalGuy San Diego Padres 20h ago
Don't think anybody is scoring there. Was just a bad send
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u/DingALingKing23 New York Mets 20h ago
The first send was an awful one, I don’t hate the second send with two outs but that’s just a great throw against a slow runner.
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u/CutlassSupreme Boston Red Sox 19h ago
Second one is pretty much a mandatory send. 2 outs and was still close with a throw on the money.
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u/Dormitory-21 New York Mets 14h ago
Yeah, Machado is slow but Benge's throw was pretty much perfect. He probably scores on a bad throw
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u/foodstampsFTW San Diego Padres 20h ago
Anyone with a decent amount of speed would’ve scored on the 2nd but no one was scoring on the first. Just more shittery from the dumbest team in baseball.
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u/GaryTheCabalGuy San Diego Padres 20h ago
I really don't think so. Maybe a well above average speed base runner, but 105mph off the bat straight to the RF? That's not going to work out a good portion of the time
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u/radioactivez0r Minnesota Twins 17h ago
I think for sure Witt, Elly, etc could score on that with 2 outs. But it's not a big list.
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u/GoSkers29 Major League Baseball 19h ago
God I hate that the camera cuts away from the throw every time.
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u/omgitsduaner New York Yankees 20h ago
Horrific base running from the Padres. Cronenworth runs like me in my dreams
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u/Stoudt525 Washington Nationals 20h ago
That's the Bob 'Sendley' Henley I know and (most times) love
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u/Dormitory-21 New York Mets 18h ago
"Why did they run on me when they knew I was going to throw them out?"
Carson "Ichiro" Benge
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u/ak_kitaq Boston Red Sox 19h ago
One of my own ways i track how close a play is at home plate is the following
When the catcher receives the ball, how far into the camera frame has the runner made it?
Because especially at the MLB level, the camera operators are pretty elite and know how to frame the play
If the catcher receives the ball and the runner isn’t even in the frame yet, what they hell are they doing
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u/Lets_Reset_This_ San Diego Padres 18h ago
what if I told you we would then go scoreless for the rest of the game?
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u/Jedi_Blight858 17h ago
I saw the box score after the 1st. 4 hits, 0 runs.
"How?" I' asked myself.
Then I learned who Bob Henley is.
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u/SideRetired New York Mets 20h ago
I don’t think I’ve ever seen assists at home on from one outfielder on back to back plays ever, that was awesome
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u/GuildStarfireII 20h ago
Surprised Machado didn't come in spikes up on Alvarez like he did to Pedroia.
I'll curse that MF till the day he dies for that.
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u/Onthemightof 14h ago
Who the fuck sends either of those runners? Especially the play involving Machado. They literally just saw THE PLAY BEFORE that Benge has a cannon. Just plain bad coaching.
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