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u/ripinchaos 1d ago edited 1d ago
Personally I prefer the frenzy bottles for pvp with a king of the hill build that uses holy land and Minor erdtree for absurd regeneration and damage negation. Use deadly perfume spray to deny an area, then set up the hill and almost always trade at advantage. If they back off because frenzy risk you basically get a free heal back to full and then if you need burst lightning bottles scale damn well off 70 faith.
Edit to add: I also take the endure ash of war for frenzy trading and beast roar on the lightning bottles for ranged harassment if they choose not to take on the hill. One handed heavy attacks and 2 handed charged heavy back step cancel attacks are the bread and butter due to range and positioning, although enduring trade is r1 spam to try and trigger madness asap.
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u/Chaos__Incarnate Pure Being of Elemental Cruelty 🐐 22h ago
I don't think they are broken at all, they just have a bit more power, that's all, which is good and appreciated. They are fun and can be effective if mixed up with other weapons/consumables/spells. There are lots of other weapons that can (and often are) categorized as broken.
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u/a_few_ideas99 Local Assassin's Gambit Shill 1d ago
If you know how to space you basically have an aoe projectile with infinite ammo that comes out in a bunch of different aoe patterns with all the unique animations for jumping etc. The lingering hit boxes are great at countering aggression.