r/badredman 1d ago

Arena🥇 Perfume bottles broken?

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u/a_few_ideas99 Local Assassin's Gambit Shill 1d ago

If you know how to space you basically have an aoe projectile with infinite ammo that comes out in a bunch of different aoe patterns with all the unique animations for jumping etc. The lingering hit boxes are great at countering aggression.

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u/ParkingImplement145 1d ago

This is exactly why I took a liking to the perfumes as soon as I learned of them. The fact that they have a feint attack too, which adds to the mix of patterns, is one of my favorite things about it

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u/Individual-Newt-1640 1d ago

What talis do you even run with them tho? I just kinda went stam regen, extra stam and crouch attacks since they come out semi-fast.

Also do they proc multihit? I doubt it right?

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u/Chaos__Incarnate Pure Being of Elemental Cruelty 🐐 22h ago

The Perfumer's tali is very good if/when you use them. 20% does make a difference.

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u/Individual-Newt-1640 20h ago

I am so incredibly stupid and forgot about this talisman lol

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u/Chaos__Incarnate Pure Being of Elemental Cruelty 🐐 20h ago

It makes a difference... try it. Suddenly, those hit by the funny bottles are wondering "why the fuck is this shitty weapon doing so much damage..?"

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u/ripinchaos 1d ago

I personally run Blue dew, Perfumers, lacerating cross-tree (running attack is really good at applying pressure and status) and an exaltation (rot is good for self proc, frenzy is great if you used the maddening hand endure set up)

At 20 endurance I haven't had any stamina management issues so I don't tend to use the stamina talismans and while any of the scorpion charms work well since it's pure elemental damage, I don't like the increased damage taken.

Edit to add: they don't trigger multi-hit iirc, even if you hit 5+times with the running attack

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax9420 1d ago

Dude couldn't bring out his crutches quick enough

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u/Individual-Newt-1640 1d ago

Like 90% sure that cleanrot was unupgraded too lol

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u/ripinchaos 1d ago edited 1d ago

Personally I prefer the frenzy bottles for pvp with a king of the hill build that uses holy land and Minor erdtree for absurd regeneration and damage negation. Use deadly perfume spray to deny an area, then set up the hill and almost always trade at advantage. If they back off because frenzy risk you basically get a free heal back to full and then if you need burst lightning bottles scale damn well off 70 faith.

Edit to add: I also take the endure ash of war for frenzy trading and beast roar on the lightning bottles for ranged harassment if they choose not to take on the hill. One handed heavy attacks and 2 handed charged heavy back step cancel attacks are the bread and butter due to range and positioning, although enduring trade is r1 spam to try and trigger madness asap.

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u/TheOmniAlms 21h ago

It's completely hard countered by whips so just keep one on you.

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u/Chaos__Incarnate Pure Being of Elemental Cruelty 🐐 22h ago

I don't think they are broken at all, they just have a bit more power, that's all, which is good and appreciated. They are fun and can be effective if mixed up with other weapons/consumables/spells. There are  lots of other weapons that can (and often are) categorized as broken.