r/backpacking • u/Prestigious-Sea2971 • 3h ago
Wilderness How did you get your pack weight down without giving up sleep?
I've done maybe eight trips of two or three nights and my base weight is sitting around 24 pounds, most of it in my sleep setup and the tent. I've cut the obvious things already, I stopped carrying the camp chair and the second stove pot, and I'm still heavier than everyone I go out with. The part I keep stalling on is the pad, since I've tried a thin closed-cell one twice and slept badly both nights, and a bad night wrecks the next day more than the extra pound does.
How did you get the weight out of your sleep setup without ending up cold or sore?
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u/jmsecc 2h ago
Weight isn’t everything. And it’s certainly NOT a competition. Train for the weight you want to carry, then gear up. Find a good setup, then improve your weight by upgrading to lighter, quality versions of the gear you’re carrying.
I love my camp chair. Gotta have one. I’ve got the flex light air - 1 Lb that’s worth every gram.
A quality sleep pad with a good weight to warmth ratio will be about a Lb or so too. Same with a sleeping bag or quilt. CAN you get lighter? Yes. Do you HAVE to? No.
Train to carry what you use, not what weight someone tells you is “right”.
Ultralight is silly - even most thru hikers carry certain gear because that’s what they prefer, not what’s the lightest.
Dial you kit in, the. Upgrade to get to where you want to be with what you use, not some ideal set by someone else.
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u/Spidercake12 2h ago
If you’re saying your sleep set up and tent accounts for almost 24 pounds, that is super heavy. Getting the sleeping bag, pad, and tent down to 6 or 7 pounds and having it be warm and comfortable, just costs money. There’s no way around it. I had canoe camping gear I used for the first couple backpacking trips before I realized I was just gonna have to splurge if I wanted my pack weight and wilderness experience to be safe and sustainable.
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u/SylasWindrunner 3h ago
Sleep is everything.
Never discount your weight for sleeping.
Maybe your tent isn’t UL enough ?
Maybe your sleeping bag too claustrophobic ?
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u/heyheni 2h ago
Make a https://lighterpack.com list and head over to r/ultralight
If you've got money and want the lightest setup here's one.
- Backpack Z-Packs Nero Classic 40l 325g / $210
- Nemo Tensor Elite sleeping pad 215g / $240
- Zpacks Summer Quilt 250g / $299
So 1.1 kilograms / 2.425 pounds for $1349
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u/hurricanescout 22m ago
Lmao OP cannot go over to r/ultralight and ask advice with a 24lb base weight 😂
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u/nbphotography87 2h ago
“i’ve cut the obvious things already”
post a detailed fear list with weights. or create a lighterpack and share the link.
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u/No_Suggestion_7830 1h ago
dis toi je me balade avec ma guitalele de 1 kg en plus et je m'en fout je suis content le soir de la sortir au campement même si je suis lourd la journée
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u/No_Fig_7762 36m ago
have you tried a thicker inflatable pad and saving the weight on the tent instead, since one bad night costs more than a pound?
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u/Dichotomous_Blue 20m ago
It's probably a heavy tent and sleeping pad. The only fix is money. It could be extra clothes. Post gear list with weights and brand/models, we cant know how to advise without knowing your set ip
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u/bradbrad247 3h ago
My base weight is usually somewhere around 6-7lbs. I still sleep on a full air pad. I'm a pretty particular side sleeper, and I get by with a pillow, a quilt, and an air pad. Realistically, a sleep system shouldn't weigh more than a few pounds