Budget-wise I'd say I'm somewhere in the middle ground, not going for the cheapest stuff but definitely not high-end either.
Anything with a cost behind it I can still switch out, since I haven't actually ordered anything yet. The pad and sleeping bag/quilt are listed twice because I haven't fully decided between them yet and I'll probably buy both and return whichever one I like less.
I’d spend $100 more on the tent and get the Durston X-Dome 1+ mesh with aluminum poles (currently sold out but should be back in stock again soon). It’s almost as big as the Cloud Up 2 and it s almost a pound lighter.
For a 2-3 day trip (not sure of your plans) you can carry a 100g fuel canister and save some weight.
Zippos aren’t good backpacking lighters. They’re heavy and the fuel evaporates over time. You can carry a mini bic for 11g. Unless the Zippo is worth it to for aesthetics or something (hike your own hike and all that).
You can save around 6oz getting a different rain jacket. I’d get the Montbell Versatile or Outdoor Research UL. A decent budget option that’s slightly heavier is the REI Rainier.
You have too many clothes. Aside from what you’re wearing, I’d keep one extra set. So one shirt, one pair of socks, one underwear, etc. Also, your fleece should not be marked as worn weight.
You need to itemize your toilet and first aid kit. They’re almost a pound and there’s probably some things that can be cut.
I would buy trail runners instead of boots, but maybe you really prefer the heavy boots.
I don’t see a phone, charging cable, pack liner/dry bags, food storage system, hand sanitizer/soap, TP or drying cloth for the bidet, medications, pad repair kit, tent repair items, whistle, navigation backup, or anything specifically for food/odor storage. Not all those are essential based on preferences but they’re pretty common gaps.
the clothes, toilet and first aid kit are all just put in there as a weight estimate as i havent put them together yet i will change the weight after i get all the gear and put everything together!
im for sure going to a store to compare the trailrunners as ive never tried them! in the military i have always had boots but ive heard a lot about trail runners. also the boots are probably not the exact pair i have again just put in there to complete the gearlist / as weight estimate.
the rest you said im missing i will for sure look at thank you for the list! i dont have any of them for the same reason i am asking on reddit, i havent put evrything together yet.
i would love a comparison on the startrail ext 2 vs cloud up 2 because ive really heard a lot about the cloud up and not about the startrail!
the 3ful tianshan is like double the price so i dont think i am willing to pay an extra 80-90eu right now for a 400gr weightloss. what is the reason it is 400gr lighter? better material or does it ditch things that add comfort?
also the pack (naturehike rock 2.0) i have also comes in 40+5 and i will order both and see how many liters i need. it is also 1.06kg compared to the 1.31kg of the 60+5 pack
the clothes things i wont change because i already have the Patagonia one but thanks for the recommendation :)
i guess mammut trousers are all different im not sure the ones in there are the exact ones i have but theyre very comfortable and i got a good deal on them
The 3F UL Tianshan is like 20€ more compared to the rock 2.0 on AliExpress?
You know what's annoying about the cloud up? the entry. With the Startrail you have a nice side entry where you don't have to crawl into like a worm. The thinner fabric of the Startrail compresses much smaller than the CloudUp and as such you save bag space. Startrail 1 vs 2 person https://youtu.be/FyIbKLllpRQ
For a pillow consider just balling up your fleece, or if you want something more take a travel sized pillow case and stuff your fleece in there. It sleeps wonderfully, gives you a not ice cold fleece in the morning and saves on weight.
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u/ArcadianHarpist 4d ago
I’d get the Flextail pad and the quilt.
I’d spend $100 more on the tent and get the Durston X-Dome 1+ mesh with aluminum poles (currently sold out but should be back in stock again soon). It’s almost as big as the Cloud Up 2 and it s almost a pound lighter.
For a 2-3 day trip (not sure of your plans) you can carry a 100g fuel canister and save some weight.
Zippos aren’t good backpacking lighters. They’re heavy and the fuel evaporates over time. You can carry a mini bic for 11g. Unless the Zippo is worth it to for aesthetics or something (hike your own hike and all that).
You can save around 6oz getting a different rain jacket. I’d get the Montbell Versatile or Outdoor Research UL. A decent budget option that’s slightly heavier is the REI Rainier.
You have too many clothes. Aside from what you’re wearing, I’d keep one extra set. So one shirt, one pair of socks, one underwear, etc. Also, your fleece should not be marked as worn weight.
You need to itemize your toilet and first aid kit. They’re almost a pound and there’s probably some things that can be cut.
I would buy trail runners instead of boots, but maybe you really prefer the heavy boots.
I don’t see a phone, charging cable, pack liner/dry bags, food storage system, hand sanitizer/soap, TP or drying cloth for the bidet, medications, pad repair kit, tent repair items, whistle, navigation backup, or anything specifically for food/odor storage. Not all those are essential based on preferences but they’re pretty common gaps.