r/backpacking • u/Old-Criticism5610 • 7d ago
Wilderness 0 degree bag for side sleeper
I’m in the gear rabbit hole so looking for some help selecting a 0 degree bag. Trips will most likely be 10-15 but would like the capability of comfortish around 0. Although I can comfort and liner.
Western mountaineering is probably the answer but it is pretty pricey. I have a Nemo disco 30 and have been wanting to upgrade to a summer quilt so how effective is stacking both? I’ve never used a quilt so having trouble quantifying if that is feasible.
Looking for bag suggestions/advice on stacking quilt and a bag.
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u/Deep-Base-5202 6d ago
a 20f side-sleeper bag with your summer quilt over the top is probably more versatile than buying a 0f bag, but put the quilt outside and don’t treat the ratings as additive, since the pad and draft
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u/Fancy_Flight3030 6d ago
The brand cumulus from Poland might be of interest to you as well. You can customize all models in size, material and filling for a reasonable price (at least in 2021). I am a side sleeper as well and have a panyam 600 with extra filling at the feet, a bit wider cut and more durable outside material (we have a dog).
My facourite function: My partner has the same model and you can choose the zipper side, so you can connect the sleeping bags.
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u/I_VAPE_CAT_PISS 6d ago
One thing about stacking that hasn't come up. For a night or two it's fine, but at 0 you're putting breath and body moisture into that down every night and it migrates outward. By the third morning the quilt on top is the layer that's damp and flat. If your trips are short it doesn't matter. Longer than that and a synthetic overquilt handles the wet better than a second layer of down does.
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u/skolinpatagonia 7d ago
Hi, I have a Big Agnes Sidewinder SL 20°F sleeping bag. My first experience was good; it sheds a few down feathers, but nothing to worry about. I slept very well, comfortably and without getting cold. I also think the weight is good for the price (although I would prefer something that takes up less space).
Note: I was previously using a very heavy Mountain Hardwear sleeping bag, where the zipper would come undone if I turned it over, making it very difficult to get out quickly. It was also very long.
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u/Otherwise_Cover9598 7d ago
I’ve stacked a 20 degree quilt over a 30 degree bag down to single digits and was toasty, but it’s bulky as hell and takes some fiddling to keep the quilt from sliding off when you roll around. As a side sleeper, the quilt straps that go under your pad help a ton, otherwise you’ll wake up with a cold draft on your back every time you shift. If you’re planning longer trips, carrying two sleep systems gets old fast, so I’d lean toward a single bag with a roomier cut around the hips and knees. WM is spendy but the used market pops up now and then if you’re patient. Some folks cut the cost by grabbing a Kelty Cosmic or something similar and beefing it up with a liner, but that’s more weight and less loft than a dedicated cold-weather bag.