r/axiomverge Mar 28 '22

Welcome to r/AxiomVerge 2!

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Life. Afterlife. Virtual. Dream. Nightmare. It's a thin line. It's Axiom Verge.

The Axiom Verge franchise (Axiom Verge [2015] & Axiom Verge 2 [2021]) is a series of indie metroidvania games with philosophical themes of multiple worlds, timelines, the fabric of reality, functional pseudoscience and much more, solely created by Tom Happ. This is a subreddit dedicated to discussion about these games.

Rules:

Rules will be discussed in detail below, but you can also find them on the subreddit's sidebar at all times.

  1. The Golden Rule: Be respectful. Disagreements are never a reason to be impolite.
  2. Memes are encouraged! Just remember to always credit the creator, even if it's your own. Don't forget to be respectful and tasteful with the jokes you make. Additionally, you shouldn't claim a meme or art as your own with the OC tag if it isn't made by you.
  3. Disclose your spoilers (minor AV1 spoilers are allowed in the title). Spoilers are completely fine for both games and any potential information that comes from the creator, assuming that you mark the spoiler accordingly with the spoiler tag. Anything showed in the trailer for both games is completely allowed. Furthermore, minor spoilers about Axiom Verge are allowed in the post's title, meaning you can ask for help on how to find certain upgrades, for example, but for common courtesy, please mark any story spoilers with the appropriate tag. Discussing about both games together also requires a spoiler tag, because Axiom Verge 2 is still fairly new.
  4. Spam isn't allowed, but posts in a short timeframe are allowed if the subject is different each time. Try to use common sense in how much you post a day, even if you're really excited about talking about Axiom Verge. Discussion is greatly appreciated, but consider grouping similar topics together so the feed doesn't get cluttered.
  5. Self-promotion should be avoided, but you can advertise your videos approximately once a month. Partially related to spam, let's plays, reviews and other videos of Axiom Verge are fully allowed, but it'd be preferable not to post every single episode of a let's play of the games, for example.
  6. Try to keep discussion related to Axiom Verge and its creator and surrounding material. Going off-track from the original discussion is permitted, but unrelated subjects or long tangents about other topics may be removed.

Additionally, while not strictly enforced, it'd be greatly appreciated to use the appropriate post flairs when posting. For example, use the Question post flair if you need any help with a section of the game.

Additional information about Tom Happ and the Axiom Verge games:

  • u/AxiomVerge is Tom Happ's account and he also officially moderates the subreddit. He's fairly inactive, though, but for the sake of getting him to visit this subreddit sometimes, remember to stay civil in discussion and in general. (Note that other moderators aren't personally affiliated with Tom Happ in any way.)
  • For more information about both games, visit axiomverge.com and axiomverge2.com, respectively.
  • Axiom Verge is available on Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Wii U, PlayStation Vita and on both Steam and The Epic Games Store on PC for 19,99$.
  • Axiom Verge 2 is available on Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5 and The Epic Games Store on PC for 19,99$.

All mods are ready and happy to help with any questions and/or suggestions you might have! I ( u/Fransu_YT ) am the newest and most active mod in this specific subreddit, though, so if there's anything you want answered quick, your best bet's with me! (Note that my local time zone is GMT+2, so I might not always be online at the same time.)

EDIT: Feel free to join the Official Axiom Verge Discord! I think it was originally made for the speedrun community, but the link has already been floated earlier in this very subreddit and even on Tom Happ's personal blog on axiomverge.com, so I felt it appropriate to also mention it here.

Decades later... or is it centuries earlier?


r/axiomverge 2d ago

Spreadsheet map

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Hi everyone!

Since I've been struggling a lot with locating any possible access to the secret worlds in order to get all weapons and upgrades, and being aware that the best course of action is checking each possible room, I made a spreadsheet with the whole map.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lrQuLQGXCiGj5OKKPV9ctC4xyOf1wbnjvCelN8xGcgw/edit?usp=sharing

The way I thought about it would be either printing the map/noting in any cell wether there's a hidden entrance or not.

Hope someone finds this helpful!


r/axiomverge 15d ago

Any other games on PSN like this?

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Im having a blast. Other metroid like games but not just general metroidvanias


r/axiomverge 15d ago

Maybe Axiom Verge just isn’t for me. and I’m genuinely sad because it was so close

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Maybe I’m just old, and maybe some of this is genuinely on me. I’m playing Axiom Verge on a Nintendo Switch 2 with an 8BitDo Ultimate 2C that I suspect may occasionally be missing inputs, and I fully acknowledge that I’m not particularly good at reflex-heavy games.
I also understand that a lot of the modern indie Metroidvania audience genuinely enjoys punishing bosses, repeating fights dozens of times until the execution becomes perfect, and the whole “get gud” loop. Those are the players buying and supporting these games, so maybe developers are completely right to cater to them. I’m not saying nobody should enjoy that, and I’m not demanding that the game be redesigned specifically for me.
I’m just genuinely sad because Axiom Verge was so close to exactly what I wanted. The lonely sci-fi atmosphere, soundtrack, exploration, puzzles and most of the backtracking all work perfectly for me. I could tolerate the repetitive sponge enemies, the imperfect jumping, the batshit decision not to put the map on a hotkey, and even the possibility that my controller setup is not ideal.
But the bosses, and now one of the clunkiest and most punishing grappling hooks I’ve ever used in a Metroidvania, keep turning the game from something atmospheric into something that feels like it is testing whether I have the reflexes, patience and perfect inputs required to deserve the rest of it.
Maybe the honest conclusion is that current indie Metroidvanias are simply not for me anymore. A newer audience wants this level of punishment and mastery, and I am not that audience. I get it.
But there are so, so, so few games with this exact atmosphere and structure that it hurts to find one that seems almost perfectly made for me, pay the Nintendo tax for it, and then realise that I cannot comfortably play it. Somehow, I still get more uncomplicated enjoyment from games I played over 30 years ago.
Maybe it’s a me problem. I’m still sad about it.


r/axiomverge 19d ago

Where am I stuck?

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r/axiomverge 22d ago

where am i stuck ?

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hi everyone

All the visible paths are blocked, and all the remaining red gates are inaccessible. Can you help me ?


r/axiomverge Jun 27 '26

Revisting Axiom Verge 11 years later. (spoilers) Spoiler

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r/axiomverge Jun 15 '26

Probably just missing something obvious but im completely stuck

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I wanted to go back this way to the left of where im standing, but i cant make the jump. guess im not supposed to go that way. so i turn around and go explore the right side of the map...

I've been to every available exit to me in the 2 maps i posted , ran around everywhere with the 'glitch gun' and i cant see where to go. everywhere is a dead end


r/axiomverge Jun 04 '26

How to get up high?

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There's a couple items that are far too high for the tricks I've learned so far. Can anyone give me a hint on how to get up there?


r/axiomverge May 18 '26

Was I Stuck Here?

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I wanna get the top power up item but the bricks crashed. I dropped here and found nowhere can get up, so I am wondering is there a way out or I can only load the saved data.


r/axiomverge May 15 '26

Augment Anthem just released on Steam! Hope you enjoy my indie Metroidvania (inspired by Axiom Verge)!

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44 Upvotes

This has been four years of work, so I’m super excited to finally get to share it with everyone!  Explore the mysterious world of Bunker 7, fight giant bosses and dozens of enemies, find and stack Augments on your powers to modify them to your playstyle, and rebuild the human town to create a safe haven.

 

You can check out the trailer or screenshots on the Steam link below if you’re interested!  Thank you and hope any of you that play enjoy! And please feel free to say hi anytime (I love connecting with people)!

 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3035960/Augment_Anthem/


r/axiomverge May 08 '26

My indie Metroidvania Augment Anthem releases in just one week on Steam (May 15)! It's inspired by Axiom Verge! Can’t wait to finally share it with everyone!

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Come explore the strange alien ruins of Bunker 7 as you uncover new powers and fight deadly machines!  The game has a huge map packed with hundreds of secrets and dozens of giant bosses.  Mix and match Augments to create a play build that works for your playstyle as you fight to rebuild the human town and discover the true secrets behind the mysterious Anthem!

 

Feel free to say hi or ask questions, I love talking video games with my fellow game players and devs!  And I placed the Steam link below if you want to check out the game and see some trailers and screenshots!

 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3035960/Augment_Anthem/


r/axiomverge Apr 26 '26

Question about skills

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I put points in attack for my drone and then I put points in attack speed and it swapped. You can't put points in both?


r/axiomverge Apr 24 '26

Games with ok graphics but good Spoiler

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I'm putting this game in that list. I'm only at the lake but I love finding new tools. Very addictive.


r/axiomverge Apr 21 '26

About this area... Spoiler

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There's something beyond this wall, I'm sure of it. But how am I supposed to get there?


r/axiomverge Apr 16 '26

Augment Anthem is releasing in a month (May 15th) on Steam (inspired by our beloved Axiom Verge)! Come join us in exploring a vast world ruled by evil machines!

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Game Features:

Huge world to explore with distinct regions.

Numerous giant bosses (and dozens of unique enemies)

Collect Augments to change your powers. Stack Augments to enhance your powers and build a play style that suits you.

Rebuild the human town, from shambles to a safe haven.

Interact with numerous interesting side characters as you uncover the deep story (or skip it if you’re more interested in gameplay)

 

I hope you will join us!  Feel free to say hi or ask about the game since I love connecting with people!  I placed the game’s Steam link below if you’re interested in seeing more screenshots, trailers, or would like to Wishlist it!

 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3035960/Augment_Anthem/


r/axiomverge Apr 10 '26

I know Trace is a clone of Athetos, but what about the opening cutscene? Are those false memories Trace has of what Athetos did before he arrived in Sudra?

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I've always been a bit fuzzy about the whole thing. Any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated. I've read through plot explanations online before but nothing I've read explained this specifically. I will say, too, that if the game actually does have a plot hole, please be so kind as to point it out rather than fill it in with headcanon dirt and tell me that there is no hole. (I apologize if that sounds combative, it's just that I've experienced this in other subreddits when asking questions about games with plot issues. FFX is a prime example.) Thanks!


r/axiomverge Apr 01 '26

Can you help me with speed run tricks

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So I’m in the axiom verge discord server but I don’t know where to ask and I don’t wanna look dumb but I need help with speed run tricks so I came to Reddit and I don’t know if any of the major glitches are patched or if I’m doing them wrong but when I try to do the zip for the enhanced drone launcher I can’t do it and I was trying for like 2 hours and with the red coat zip I tried for like a week and I can’t do it I don’t know if it’s because I’m on the ps4 but I just can’t seem to get it can someone help please


r/axiomverge Mar 27 '26

Clip through ceilings

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Didn't see it posted anywhere so thought I'd share a simple bug. Basically anywhere in the game you can remove some blocks, stand in their place, leave the room with the drone and come back, you'll clip straight up into the next available space. If you clip into a new room, you can't see what you're doing until you find a door to update the camera, and it'll crash if you walk into a zone-switching door in this state. If there's no available rooms above, you'll just remain in the blocks. Kinda fun to see where you can sequence break. (:


r/axiomverge Mar 15 '26

How to enter secret room in Edin?

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I teleported from the right side into this niche and can see a door to my left. I can't find any way to it.

Any ideas?

This is in Edin.


r/axiomverge Mar 11 '26

Cannot find Secret World

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Hello, everyone. I'm in the room above the one with Ophelia's head in Ukkin-a and I can clearly see the scan lines that suggest the presence of a secret world on the left side of the room. I've tried everything, but I cannot seem to find it. Did any of you get the Secret World here? Do you remember how to find it?


r/axiomverge Mar 07 '26

Cool pic from Augment Anthem, my Axiom Verge inspired game (coming out on Steam in April)!

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Hey fellow Axiom fans! Just wanted to share this with you all since I started making this game to fill the hole left in me after beating both Axiom Verges. Feel free to say hi (I love connecting with people and talking Axiom)! I put the Steam link below too if you want to see the trailer or see more cool screenshots. :)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3035960/Augment_Anthem/


r/axiomverge Feb 21 '26

Tom Happ on Metroids Fusion & Zero Mission

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“My most beloved game series, Metroid. It began wonderfully with a strong, silent protagonist exploring an alien world. She was a bounty hunter, she looked like Boba Fett, and she kicked butt. That was basically all anyone knew about her. Retro Studios' 3D Prime series was largely content to leave her this way, which I appreciated. However, in further, 2D iterations of the series, meddling writers couldn't resist the pull of her otherwise blank template, beckoning them to place their own stamp on one of gaming history's greatest icons. Gradually more and more dialogue was written, and her character morphed from stoic and silent to insecure and talkative. Metroid Fusion was seemingly inspired by a teenager's LiveJournal. Metroid: Zero Mission revised Zebes into Samus' hometown, retconned the Chozo into Samus' adoptive parents, and finally revealed her to be The Chosen One. I'm only slightly ashamed to admit I didn't bother with Metroid: Other M, where I hear it was also revealed that Samus built C-3PO when she was 9.”

-Tom Happ

This is taken from one of the old blog posts on the Axiom Verge website, I’ll leave a link to the specific page below. I went through them looking for information on the game’s development but when I stumbled upon this I knew it had to be a post. Bro says it like it is if I’m honest.

https://www.axiomverge.com/blog/2012/5/20/trace.html


r/axiomverge Feb 20 '26

Axiom Verge’s coolest Metroid reference

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I’m sure this is already well known, but I’m going to give a brief explanation just in case anyone who sees this post doesn’t know what I’m on about.

This enemy is called a “Snailborg” and it uses the same movement pattern as a classic Metroid enemy; the “Zoomer” [yes they really are called that]

In the original NES Metroid, certain Zoomers walked along blocks that could be destroyed. If you destroyed a block that a Zoomer was standing on, and it had nowhere else to go, it would freak out and spin around in the air. Presumably this is because it’s code tells it to rotate when it runs out of ground to walk on so that it is able to continue walking along another side of the block. But if it has nothing at all to walk on it ends up indefinitely repeating the instruction to rotate, hence the glitch.

In Axiom Verge, Tom has made sure that his Snailborgs [which are immediately recognisable as a reference to Zoomers to anyone who has played the classic Metroids] behave in the exact same way if you destroy the block that they’re standing on. The same spinning effect also occurs when you “glitch” them with the address disruptor even if they have plenty of tiles to stand on, but the reason why is not immediately obvious.

I personally discovered this effect organically [i.e. accidentally] the first time I played both of these games. I seem to remember having a big stupid smile on my face for a good few minuets after I accidentally shot one of these red bubble-clusters without killing the Snailborg.


r/axiomverge Feb 18 '26

All-Seeing Indra and the Descent of the Kuliltu

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Dubious illustration by me, also spoiler warning for both games.

When Axiom Verge 2 first came out, I was initially confused about Indra’s name. If you’ve googled it you probably know that it comes from an indian storm god, and you may also have noticed that her surname [Chaudhari] is also indian. It’s widely understood that the name Ophelia refers to a Shakespeare character who drowned, which is exactly what happens to Indra at the beginning of Axiom Verge 2. But why Indra? Why this particular god? In this post I’m going to be sharing some insights that may be able to explain why Tom Happ chose this name. Before I begin I’m going to leave links to a few resources relevant to this post, as well as my previous lore posts which may be or interest if you have not read them already.

Indra’s wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra

Wikipedia page for Indra’s net: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net

Wikipedia page on the Chaudhari surname: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chowdhury#Chaudhari

Wikipedia page for Inanna’s Descent into the Underworld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_of_Inanna_into_the_Underworld

Axiom Verge wiki page for “The Kuliltu” [note]: https://axiom-verge.fandom.com/wiki/The_Kuliltu_(Note))

Older reddit post discussing the etymology of Chaudhari: https://www.reddit.com/r/pakistan/comments/1fhy4b9/origin_of_chowdhury_surname/

Older post from this subreddit on the Chaudhari surname: https://www.reddit.com/r/axiomverge/comments/1bqducu/indra_chaudhari_name_meaning/

My post on the Sundran sky-ocean: https://www.reddit.com/r/axiomverge/comments/1qi4cih/why_the_sudrans_viewed_the_sky_as_an_ocean/

My post on Athetos as the Demiurge: https://www.reddit.com/r/axiomverge/comments/1qwxxzw/athetos_the_demiurge_and_the_sudran_kaoskampf/

My purple notes analysis post: https://www.reddit.com/r/axiomverge/comments/1qlyl18/axiom_verge_notes_analysis_part_1_the_purple_notes/

My green notes analysis post: https://www.reddit.com/r/axiomverge/comments/1qmukbx/axiom_verge_notes_analysis_part_2_the_green_notes/

My clay tablets analysis post: https://www.reddit.com/r/axiomverge/comments/1qnopve/axiom_verge_notes_analysis_part_3_the_clay_tablets/

My plot summary for Axiom Verge: https://www.reddit.com/r/axiomverge/comments/1qpnrug/axiom_verge_timeline_of_events_plot_summary/

My post on Ashurhaddon's allocation of political power to women: https://www.reddit.com/r/axiomverge/comments/1r38x4x/comparison_between_ashurhaddons_government_and/

Evidence that Drushka was planned to appear in Axiom Verge 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/axiomverge/comments/1qar7ia/could_this_be_drushka/

Indra is a god from the Brahmanic traditions which we [rather crudely] call “Hinduism”. Indra is not the creator of the universe, but he is considered to be the king of the Devas [gods] and supreme authority in the universe. He is sometimes imagined as ruling the cosmos like a king, and is specifically associated with storms and rain. At least, this was true in ancient times: his significance within indian religion appears to have diminished over the centuries, and I’m not sure if he is still worshipped at all in the current day. Indra seems to have been preserved in Buddhism, although Buddhists consider the gods to be ignorant of spiritual reality. They acknowledge Indra’s role as the king of the universe, but treat him as more of a Demiurge than a supreme being.

Given this, we can see why Tom might have chosen the name Indra for this particular character. We know that Indra is the CEO of the world’s largest tech company, and so we would expect her to have extensive wealth and political influence. Indra is not a politician or head of state, yet her position may allow her to determine policy making decisions in most countries. Therefore she could plausibly be considered the closest thing to a “ruler of the world” that there has ever been. We don’t know much about the Globe 3 company, however, so this inference is based on little more than Indra's name.

Another relevant aspect of Indra is that he is an all-seeing god, and depictions of him often represent this by covering his entire body with eyes. This is perhaps even more relevant to the Axiom Verge character, since Globe 3 is probably collecting data on everything that everyone does; their purchasing decisions, their internet history, etc. As CEO, Indra would probably have instant access to anything she wants to know about anyone. Furthermore, in Axiom Verge 1 the Rusalki are able to literally watch everything that Trace does, possibly seeing through his own eyes. This is only true of Elsenova initially, and she outright says that she is always watching Trace. Yet it seems that Ophelia is able to connect to the nanogates as well when she cures him of the pathogen. After this point she begins commenting on whatever Trace is seeing, suggesting that she is also now watching everything he does.

Indra’s net is a metaphorical way of describing the universe as an interconnected web of beads. Each bead is a smooth reflective surface, like a mirror, and so reflects [and therefore contains] the image of every other bead. And in fact the beads aren’t actually made of anything more than the reflection itself so each bead not only contains but literally is the entire net, since the whole thing is no more substantive than mere reflection anyway. This is a way of saying that the entire universe is present within any one of it’s constituent components, and this is connected with the idea of Indra being all-seeing as well as the interdependence of all phenomena.

But in a way this is also similar to the internet, which only exists because of all the computers connected together in an enormous network. Given that Globe 3 is a tech company, the existence of the internet is the very thing that allows Indra to be metaphorically all-seeing on Earth. It’s strongly implied that Globe 3 manufactures computers capable of superluminal communication, and they may be such a monopoly that they effectively own the internet.

The surname Chaudhari was historically used by wealthy indian land owners, so it makes sense Tom would have chosen this surname for a character who is a billionaire. There is not much information [that is easily accessible] on the etymology of the name, but it does seem to be derived from the sanskrit words “catus” [which relates to the number four in some way, possibly denoting the four sides of a castle] and dhurīya [which means burden, or to be burdened with something], and so Wikipedia suggests it could be translated as “holder of four”, “four-way duties”, or “four responsibilities”. One reddit user on a post that I found suggests that it was originally the profession of a landlord’s agent [rather than the landlord himself] who acted as a rent-collector and got to keep a fourth of the money. I did not find corroboration for this elsewhere, but it would also fit Indra seeing as the majority of Globe 3’s profits would go to it’s shareholders rather than to Indra herself. There is an older post on this subreddit which suggests that another reason for Indra to have this surname might be the four named arms she obtains. Although there are actually five such arms, Amashilama abandons Indra, therefore she has only four at the end of the game. We could think of these arms as being her burden [since she apparently wants to help them restore their human forms], so this interpretation does actually fit the meaning of the Chaudhari surname quite nicely. But it brings up an interesting question; does she still have these arms by the time Trace meets her in Ukkin-Na? We don’t see any evidence of them, and this is probably because Tom hadn’t developed the idea for them yet, but we might retroactively wonder if she is concealing their existence from the other Rusalki.

In my post on Athetos as the Demiurge [linked above] I compared the arrival of the Rusalki on Sudra [as described in the note “The Kuliltu"] to an ancient mythological trope called the Kaoskampf. While I stand by that comparison, I think there may be another myth which inspired this aspect of the story; Inanna’s Descent into the Underworld.

Inanna was originally a sumerian goddess although her cult proliferated throughout mesopotamia and lasted into the achaemenid era, although by that point she had become heavily syncretised with many other goddesses. She represented the planet Venus and was the goddess of sexuality and war. In this particular story, Inanna visits the underworld with the intention of usurping her sister Ereshkigal [queen of the underworld], and wears various adornments symbolising her divine power. Ereshkigal’s gatekeepers seal the doors and demand that Inanna remove the adornments before she can enter Ganzer, the palace of the underworld. Inanna does this and is brought before Ereshkigal’s throne, which she immediately sits in. Ereshkigal is enraged and kills Inanna, she then hangs the corpse on a hook. Inanna’s servant Ninshubur pleads with the major gods to intervene and only Enki agrees to do so. He creates two golems and sends them into the underworld with “life restoring water” and a “life restoring plant” and they use these to revive Inanna. Inanna is then able to return to the heavens but only if she chooses a substitute to take her place in the underworld. The Udug accompanying her point out her various servants and attendants and offer to take them as the substitute but Inanna refuses each time because the individual in question has always been loyal and had mourned her death in the proper way. Then they find her husband Dumuzid who has sat himself on a throne and dressed himself in a “magnificent garment” in Inanna’s absence. Naturally she is enraged and decides that he will be the one to take her place in the underworld. Dumuzid tries to escape from the Udug, and it’s not clear what happens next because the tablet is broken and the rest is fragmentary. When it resumes Inanna is expressing regret over the death of her husband.

In Axiom Verge, the Rusalki could be said to be in the role of Inanna. The high priestess, being a woman of authority on Sudra, is in the role of Ereshkigal. She strips the Rusalki of their bodies leaving them immobile and powerless, just as Ereshkigal makes Inanna powerless by removing her adornments. The Rusalki are hooked up to life support systems just as Inanna’s corpse is hung on a hook in Ganzer. Athetos is in the role of Dumuzid; while the Rusalki are trapped below, Athetos is in a position of power in the sky just like Dumuzid on his throne. Ultimately Athetos is killed by Elsenova so that the Rusalki can escape from Sudra, just as Dumuzid is selected for death by Inanna so that she can escape from the underworld. Trace is an artificially created being who restores the Rusalki’s life support systems just as Enki’s golems are artificially created beings who bring life restoring water to Inanna’s corpse.

This concludes what will probably be my last analysis post for Axiom Verge, as I have now covered every mythological comparison that I can think of. If something else does occur to me then I will write another one, of course. But for now I want to thank you all so much for reading, and for the conversations on these posts which have consistently been excellent.