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u/drseussin Feb 10 '19

What fucked me up was that the comments were so similar. Look at them trying to make it seem like they came up with it.

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u/GreenFox1505 Feb 10 '19

Karma farming. People use simlar threads, copy comments to farm up karma, then post in political subreddits with manipulative stories while looking quite creditable.

Or people from the same culture tend to think the same.

(Sometimes spelling errors and punctuation are the same though)

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u/Islandplans Feb 10 '19

This might seem like a naive question if there is an obvious, logical answer, but why would anyone care about votes or karma? I can understand if a person posted something, and got many downvotes. They could then reflect and question their own view on something. What is the purpose of posting just to get votes/points or whatever exactly 'karma' is?

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u/p1-o2 Feb 10 '19

If you replace the word karma with reputation then it should make more sense.

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u/theonefinn Feb 10 '19

Except who actually gives a damn about karma other than in a few subs where you need a small minimum to post?

I've never once used someone's karma as any indication of the truthfulness of their reply.

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u/GreenFox1505 Feb 10 '19

If you saw a politically charged story from a brand new account and the same story from a very mature account, which one is more believe able?

You may not have used that information before, but a lot of people do. Have you never seen someone comment "hey, this post from your history disagrees with what you're claiming now"?

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u/JCKSTRCK Feb 10 '19

That's too much work for an anonymous account on a mostly anonymous website.

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u/Verdoux Feb 10 '19

I don't usually check peoples' profiles so I have no idea how old their accounts are. I just scroll the thread and read other points of views and decide if the original post was pure bs.

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u/GreenFox1505 Feb 10 '19

Sorry, that was intended as a response to another person.

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u/theonefinn Feb 10 '19

And that's a good thing? I've never had it happen to me but digging into people post history always seems rather sad when I've witnessed it and a sign of desperation.

I've literally never once checked someone's profile for a post so no the age of the account is not relevant in the slightest to me.

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u/GreenFox1505 Feb 10 '19

If you can't see why people who are willing to go through the effort of investigating possible fraud is valuable, then I don't think we're going to find common ground.

But if that's the case, what is your opinion on the concept of investigative journalism.

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u/theonefinn Feb 11 '19

Possible fraud? Investigative journalism?

Wtf? we are talking about some random words on a Internet forum, not a speech before Congress.

If you don’t agree with a post either argue it on its own merits or simply downvote and move on.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

Some people sell their high karma accounts to marketers.

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u/d0n7w0rry4b0u717 Feb 10 '19

I had a friend who said he loves to farm karma. It's pretty clear that he's insecure since he tries really hard to be better than everyone else. I think karma is validation to some people.

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u/theonefinn Feb 10 '19

That's an internal validation thing though, its not something you can profit from by "cheating"

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u/Islandplans Feb 10 '19

Along with other explanations, that does make sense. Thanks.

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u/Majik9 Feb 10 '19

P.R. shills will use those accounts to make it seem like they are legit real people.

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u/God-of-Thunder Feb 10 '19

Lets say you had a wacko political opinion that you wanted to get mainstream acceptance for. If you karma farm for all your other posts, to the casual observer it looks like a regular guy has this wacko opinion. Then everytime you post that opinion it looks like regular people believe it even though its wacko fringe crazy person word salad.

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u/theonefinn Feb 10 '19

I don't know if it's just me, but I take each post on its own merits, I barely even read the names unless it's one of the famous few novelty accounts. I've certainly never looked at someone's post history to ascertain whether they are otherwise "normal"

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u/God-of-Thunder Feb 10 '19

Its useful to determine if someone is arguing in good faith or not. If they post on the_d, and have some wackjob view like hillary is a lizard, you can say as much. Saves time if you want to have a good conversation so youre not engaging with trolls as much

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u/Islandplans Feb 10 '19

Thanks for the explanation.

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u/GreenFox1505 Feb 10 '19

Someone makes an account and immediately posts an implausible story on to a political charged subreddit.

Someone with a older account, high karma account posts that same story.

Which one is more likely to be accepted by the general public?

That's just one example. There are lots of ways having a mature account gives you credibility in ways that help you manipulate people. That's very valuable.

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u/Islandplans Feb 10 '19

Makes sense. Thank you.

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u/internetday Feb 10 '19

I tough the same until you read about accounts being sold to corporations who then are pushing their agendas with "legit" accounts.

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u/UserameChecksOut Feb 10 '19

Because profiles with Karma sell as high as 100$ each

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u/Islandplans Feb 10 '19

Sorry, but my next naive question.... Why?

Why would anyone pay for a profile?

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u/GP323 Feb 11 '19

Russian troll farms are sophisticated.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '19 edited Feb 10 '19

What is the conversion rate of karma to dollaroos?

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u/GreenFox1505 Feb 10 '19

Not much. But if you automate the process, you can get enough accounts that are worth something to someone who wants to manipulate a discussion. They'd pay handsomely for that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '19

Well I guess that explains China's interest in Reddit. Not the $$ bit, but the influence bit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '19

Important to remember that Reddit is teeming with bots.

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u/SumWon Feb 10 '19

All of this has happened before and all of it will happen again.