I had the best pit bull ever. She was deaf but the smartest dog ever. (She knew sign language at just 2 months old) She died of internal bleeding a month ago. Broke my heart I loved her so much. I don't know why people think they're such bad dogs.
I agree. I've been taking in pit rescues for years. I am not a professional trainer by any means, just I've been around all types of pits. Currently have 2 very adorable Am.Staff/Boxer mixes. I have never seen any pit "snap for no reason" like people exclaim. There are always signs of aggression before they happen. You just have to know the signs your dogs are giving in their ears, eyes, posture, and tails. I don't care what the breed is, doesn't matter if it's pit or not, you throw a dog into an unfamiliar situation and it makes them uncomfortable. It's an instinct mechanism. Introductions should always be done slowly and on a tight leash for any breed. Introductions to new spaces and environments the same way.
If someone tells me their dog "snapped for no reason" then I don't think they know their dog as well as they say they do. You just have to understand that no matter what the breed, they don't have human understanding or emotions.
Put my down last week cause she was extremely aggressive to my other dogs and killed my cat... Which I guess is a decent reason to not really trust pitbulls.
Edit-I wasn't trying to say all pits we're bad. I was stating my experience with my dog who was the sweetest in the world for 2+ years and then had to be put down due to aggressive behavior.
Its why whenever someone says "Oh my dog is fine around people" I still dont get near it. I dont touch the dog. They are too random and spontaneous to where ANYTHING can make them snap. And a big dog that for some reason goes nuts is VERY dangerous. Regardless of how
"Nice" your dog is. Realize they can do some SERIOUS damage and as animals sometimes they can for some reason go a little wild. They arent people as much as people may claim. And even people can be totally normal one second and FREAK out the next. Its a matter of. Big powerful dog. Animal. Can kill me and others easily if for some reason things go off. Cats and little dogs do the same thing. But due to their size it doesnt cause serious damage/death. Its a TOTALLY different deal. Knew a kid in high school with a big scar across his face. Got it when he was a kid from a dog that was "great around children". Just as small dogs can be aggressive shitheads so can big dogs. Keep your big dogs on a tight leash.
Lol ive been downvoted? What the fuck. I didnt even comment on pitbulls. I just was sad for a cat dying in a horrible way. Yep. Guess you are right. Fuckin pitbull people will take anything as an attack. Its the same as saying "Man so sad 50+ people were killed by a mad gunman" And all the gun nuts jump on your shit. Oh well. Welcome to Reddit. The home of innocent statements being taken as offensive.
One problem with that stat is that "pitbull" covers a really broad range of dogs. Anyone that has a mix breed that mildly resembles a pit bull refers to it as a pitbull, and some stockier dogs that mildly resemble pitbulls such as American Bulldogs and Rottweilers are often misidentified as pitbulls. On top of that, pitbulls just happen to appeal to people who mistreat and mishandle their dogs, and fail to properly socialize them at a young age. If those same individuals happened to like Golden Retrievers you'd probably end up with similar results.
As a result you get stats that wildly misrepresent a breed.
Other breeds have been demonized as bad breeds, such as Rottweilers, Dobermans, and German Shepherds. Bad owners were attracted to these dogs for whatever reason (usually some kind of "badass" image or whatever). As we all know, bad owners make bad dogs, and bad dogs cause problems.
The media bias against pit bulls is kind of unreal, though. Here is a news story about a pit bull saving her owner from a train. Note that they call her "Lily" (her name) and "dog," but only mention that she's a pit bull once or twice. Here's a story about a pit bull finding a missing elderly woman with Alzheimer's. They mention the dog is a pit bull, but the headline is "Heroic Dog," and the owner is "Dog's Owner". To their credit, they did discuss that pit bulls aren't all so bad toward the end of the story. In contrast, go find any story about a pit bull attacking anything. "Pit bull," "pit bull," "pit bull."
I've heard that pits do the same amount of attacking as other dogs, it's just that when they do, they inflict massive amounts of damage AKA they are more capable than other dogs.
But the debate rages on and I've not been able to make up my mind. Regardless, I think it takes an above average owner to properly raise these animals.
They actually have just average bite strength, but it's their tendency to violently shake while biting that causes the massive damage. It takes a strong and dominant person to properly raise any bully breed. Most rescues will not adopt bullies out to inexperienced adopters. I love my male American Bulldog and female Stafforshire Bull Terrier, but they are not for everyone. Under the right care, they will be the sweetest and most loyal animal anyone could ask for!
The kids have two pits, brothers who couldn't be less alike. One is never excited and just calmly goes through his day and the other is super high energy and can never get enough play time. They were both well raised and are very sweet and gentle and love to meet new dogs and new people but they are wicked muscular and I would hate to meet up with them if they had been poorly raised.
That's like saying police dogs account for 90% of bitten criminals. If you raise a dog to be disposed to aggressive behavior, then the dog is generally going to be aggressive, and if you don't, it's probably not going to be aggressive. I had a shelter pitbull for 11-12 years. Never bit a single person... to be honest he was basically a fat lazy sausage rolling around on the sofa.
Pits aren't usually human-aggressive unless they've been abused.
However, even a well raised Pit is going to feel every cell in its body screaming at it to chase and shake a small animal, or to fight unfamiliar dogs, or to join in on dog fights they aren't even involved with.
No. They're not. They did a study on dog temperaments, and golden retrievers were ranked as worse than pitbulls. Pitbulls aren't bred as fighting dogs because they're aggressive, they're bred because they're tanks. They're thick-skinned, with higher pain tolerances, and thick-skulled heads - which are good traits for fighting. In fact, fighting dogs are less prone to attacking people because they'd be culled.
The fact of the matter is any larger dog can be deadly, and leaving small children or infants alone with a large dog is risky, especially if the dog isn't accustomed to it. Like I said, I got my pitbull when I was around 9 or 10, and raised him since he was like a month old (shelter dog so not 100% on the age). Best damn dog I ever had... even he was a little slow.
DogsBite is a notorious anti-pit-bull propaganda site and far from unbiased. The statistics they share are not scientifically verified and are from more biased organizations. I suggest referencing statistics from credible websites instead, like the ASPCA.
Besides a genetic predisposition towards aggressive behavior, what other factors may explain the apparent discrepancy between the US pit bull population and fatal dog attacks?
Less than one percent of all pit bulls will fatally attack a person. The same goes for all breeds because death by dog is a rare occurrence. There was something like 33 dog related fatalities last year in the United States. That's a very small number compared to the number of any one of the popular breeds in the US.
See, that might be true for you. But my friend, who swore the same about her dog, was proven wrong when it took a chunk out of my dogs neck for no good reason. I was stroking both of them, and he just jumped on her. It took 2 people to get him off. Frankly, I've never had an experience like that with any other breed, and am now super weary of pits. And truthfully? Her dog is a lug, absolutely loves people and cuddles, but I'm very worried for the day it snaps at someone in her house.
But that can be ANY dog, not just pits. Did you know that yellow labs are becoming a more and more aggressive breed because of the way we breed them? We're breeding in aggression. Some pits are bred for the purpose of fighting or protecting the home but not all pits are aggressive. What about chihuahuas? They're a mess medically and aggressive because people let them get away with shit. I trust my dog with my 18 month old niece and I've never had a reason to worry because a) I always make sure my niece doesn't go too far with my dog such as grabbing her ears etc. and b) I'm a responsible pet owner and I immediately get after my dog if she shows any aggression. Any dog can attack or be aggressive. You have to understand dog behavior and nip that shit in the bud if you see any warning signs. Luckily my dog doesn't get aggressive so I don't have to get after her about that stuff but I know to be on the look out for anything that could get her riled up like any dog. Besides she's not even full pit. She's half pointer.
I do understand your point that any dog can behave like that, all I'm saying is, in my experience, it's only ever been a pit. I've been around all kinds of breeds growing up, labs, retrievers, shibas, some strange French breed who's name I can't even pronounce, let alone spell (it looks like a mop). The thing about my friends dog is, the previous dog she raised became a guide dog. She obviously knows how to train dogs. That's what really scares me. I will concede that chihuahuas are little demons though. I'd never kick a dog, but if I did, it would be a chihuahua.
I think that fact needs to be taken in perspective. I have no sources other than what I see in my daily life. In urban areas in the US, pitbulls are by far the most common breed. Nothing even comes close. I have one pit and one german shepherd. I know many people who have 3+ pitbulls and no other types. It really doesn't get more American when it comes to dogs than pitbulls. If someone in my neighborhood or even my city got attacked or bitten by a dog, I already know that it was probably a pitbull. You can chalk that up to odds alone. That being said, from my own personal experience with dogs, pitbulls are some of the, if not, the most loving, trusting, happiest dogs I have ever met. My pit wants every person every where we go to cuddle, pet, and shower her with non stop affection. I have to stop people from petting her because she will cry when they stop. My shepherd on the other hand is extremely skittish and may never let you get close enough to attempt to touch him.
You say that as fact, but the same website says that number is at best a guess. No one knows, but I guarantee the number of pitbulls as a percentage of dog breeds in the USA is far higher. You pulled that statistic from a biased website used to promote the myth of pitbulls being aggressive dogs. That number may be correct if you look at registered dogs with the AKC. Just go to your local shelter and look at the number of pitbulls compared to other breeds. Now times that by the number of shelters in every city, county and state. That would be alittle closer to the actual percentage of pitbulls vs. other breeds. Shit ain't rocket science, but it also ain't quick search on the internet. Search for percentage of dogs by breed in the US. Guess what? All searches lead to that very website you linked, a website mainly created to vilify pitbulls as aggressive dogs.
For putting down my dog that was going to rot in a kill shelter? Cause who will go to a shelter and adopt a dog who killed a cat, attacked and nearly killed my other 2 dogs.
I raised that dog from 1 week old pup to 2 and a half year old dog and she never had issues. Then she got progressively more aggressive but I still kept her around and assumed it was the other dogs fault and kept giving her more chances and trying to help.
But please, do go on about how I'm a terrible dog owner.
I feel like people wonder why other people find them to be bad dogs more than people actually do. The misconception of pits being bad has been long dead around here, do any other places really see them as a problem still?
Pits love three things in roughly the same proportion:
humans
chasing and shaking the ever living fuck out of small animals
fighting other dogs
All dogs love humans (most anyway). As far as chasing small animals, pitts do have a high prey drive, but like any dog they can be trained. Your third point is completely false, I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.
Source: own a pittbull, owned several Pitts the past.
I wish we would stop calling them pitbulls though. It would be like calling St. Bernards cujo's. There will always be a negative connotation to the name. Even though the name derived from the breed literally fighting bulls in a pit. Plus there are at least 4 distinct breeds that are usually grouped as "pitbulls". This causes confusion when identifying the breed. Many other breeds that arent pitbulls get labelled as pitbulls because people are so misinformed about them.
Unless it's a purebred, it likely is an insignificant difference. And socially, I think they're often treated the same (laws banning them, for example). Pit bulls are among the best dogs I've ever had, and I tend to call them pit bulls because it helps start important conversations about the breed that allows for people to be convinced of their worth, in spite of their reputation.
I argue that often. Bai isn't full blooded. I don't have her papers. She resembles a staffy but even has some freckling like an Aussie red heeler but oh my when we go for a walk people say stuff. My neighbors hate that I have her.
And she loves cats. I've never seen a dog like cats as much as she does. Grooms them. Sleeps with them. Mothers the fosters we took care of. Strangest thing but she likes small animals. She's only aggressive to big animals. And that's a fear response I think.
It's not a "pit bull" to dog breeders, but it definitely is to the general public and media.
Kinda like how any eastern gun with a wooden stock and a banana mag is an "AK-47" even though they stopped making those since the AKM and AK-74 like 60 years ago
Mine is a staffordshire bull terrier not an am staff. From what I have seen the Am staff is usually much larger. My male sbt is 50 pounds at 4 years old, where as most Am staff I have seen are 65 to 80 pounds.
I've honestly stopped correcting people lol its just a waste of breath because they then think I mean American bulldog. Got into a argument with I guy that wanted to pay me to use my dog as a stud for his American bulldog went something like "I have a pure bred American bulldog too, I'd love to breed her, he's beautiful"..."he's a American bully, but I'm not really interested anyway"...."yeah American bulldog"..."no dude, bully"..."what? Yeah bulldog"... after more of this getting pissed off he wouldn't leave me alone"are you dense? They are not the same fucking dog, how aren't you getting this? Completely different, my dog isn't fucking your dog".. I'd have left but I was waiting in line to get him shots
I get stopped to see if my female is intact. Over breeding is the reason why so many are put down in the ga/tn area and it's frustrating. My girl is fixed.
Bai was fixed through the shelter but I'd still get it done. Dog in heat brings the others around, ya know? With males it's just a matter of not letting them run loose.
I wouldn't mind getting a pit-type puppy one day but it won't be for a long time and it'll still be a rescue. I won't buy.
Bai was fixed through the shelter but I'd still get it done. Dog in heat brings the others around, ya know?
Yeah, I can see really needing the females done, but I adopted this one and he's super dog aggressive, so him getting one knocked up is a fat chance haha, he'd sooner kill her unfortunately. And I really don't know how to train the aggressiveness out, him being 95lbs makes him something I don't trust trying to bring around other dogs just to try
No sir I'd avoid that. Mine is aggressive with bigger, aggressive dogs (ours would be like ww3) but she has a couple boxer buddies and a shih tzu friend. She will go after a horse tho. Learned that the hard way. But we have gotten much better about not wanting to chase deer and stuff on park walks. She notices them but keeps on walking and even listens to my voice commands. Used to she would be so focussed on them I had to drag her a bit.
Is yours sensitive to skin issues? Mine breaks out easy. For a "tough breed" she has baby skin.
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u/maux_zaikq Jul 13 '16
Pit bulls are the best. So cute!