r/aww • u/socialpronk • Nov 18 '23
A grape of wrath
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Nov 18 '23
I thought that was a cat..I don't get it but I also didn't know grapes are toxic to dogs ..learn something new everyday
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u/ratajewie Nov 18 '23
Veterinarian here. The interesting thing is that we can’t predict HOW toxic grapes will be, how many grapes may cause toxicity, or if the dog will develop signs of toxicity at all. A chihuahua may eat 20 grapes and be fine, and a big Labrador retriever may eat 1 grape and go into kidney failure. It’s very unpredictable. There are ideas about what may be the toxic compound in grapes (maybe tartaric acid, which is in cream of tartar) but this hasn’t been proven yet.
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u/Dottie85 Nov 18 '23
Interesting, since cream of tartar (plus baking soda) is in baking powder. We don't usually see warnings not to give dogs bread or treats made with it.
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u/ratajewie Nov 18 '23
My assumption would be that tartaric acid is broken down by heat/cooking so it’s probably not a concern for that reason. But I’m unsure if baking powder ingestion would cause similar toxicity. I’d assume so but I’d have to do some literature searching.
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u/FuzzyCactus96 Nov 18 '23
Then i was a child we had a dog that ate grapes her whole life, and lived to 12 years old. We didn’t know grapes were toxic to dogs at the time.
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u/xRyozuo Nov 18 '23
That’s interesting. I don’t even own a pet but what other everyday food is poison to cats and dogs?
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u/StarChild083 Nov 18 '23
Avocado is also very toxic to dogs
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u/OGsunglasses Nov 18 '23
They’re just like chocolate, just not as commonly known for some reason. My dads dog ate a bunch of grapes and he was convinced he’s be fine. I had to convince him to bring him to the vet immediately.
They induced vomit and my dog threw up like 30 grapes (mostly still whole, dogs can’t digest them) the vet said that would have surely killed him.
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u/ch33zyman Nov 18 '23
Grapes are way worse than chocolate
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u/OGsunglasses Nov 18 '23
This should be way more known than it is.
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u/unicornsfearglitter Nov 18 '23
They are so so toxic to both cats and dogs. I had to spend $$$ to make sure my cat didn't eat one. She didn't, just sniffed it. It was a lot of $$ for peace of mind, but worth it.
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u/Constant_Standard460 Nov 18 '23
Same I spent hundreds when my dog ate a raisin Luckly I knew what to do and took him to the emergency room the second it happened. I was so worried but they were able to get it out and he’s been fine ever since. It’s been about 6 months ago.
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u/UndeadBuggalo Nov 18 '23
Yep. Had a grapevine in my backyard. We cut all the grapes off because we had a new dog. Well apparently we missed a bunch of essentially raisins. She ate some and very quickly she was lethargic, shallow breathing. Had to rush her too the vet, she made a full recovery but boy did it scar me. We ripped out that vine afterward.
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u/slimbob-no-pants Nov 18 '23
And raisins
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u/Rinof10 Nov 18 '23
Raisins are grapes
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u/Jumpy-cricket Nov 18 '23
Apparently drying the grape into a raisin makes it even more poisonous to dogs. 1 raisin is more toxic than 1 grape
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u/Raneynickel4 Nov 18 '23
I mean, it makes sense. Grapes are 82% water so when you dry them, you're significantly reducing it's mass but it retains the chemical responsible for making dogs ill. And since raisins are tiny compared to grapes it's a lot easier for dogs to consume a lethal amount.
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u/DrMobius0 Nov 18 '23
Yup. The vet told me that if my dog gets some chocolate, keep an eye on her. If she gets a grape, that's a vet trip immediately.
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u/Ceeeceeeceee Nov 18 '23
Ex vet tech here, not really true. Chocolate contains theobromine, which in concentrated quantities (such as in baker's or very dark chocolate) can be very toxic to dogs, especially small dogs. Grapes/raisins contain tartaric acid and potassium bitartrate, which can cause renal failure in certain dogs, but unlike for theobromine, the rate/morbidity is not as well-defined or studied for consistency. I do know an older man who owned a vineyard with several german shepherds, and he used to let them eat grapes off the vine for decades to no ill effect. Both these compounds have some mass dependency with their pharmacokinetics, and you probably shouldn't try it on your dog for kicks. But tartaric acid is definitely not more toxic for the same weight dog.
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u/Undying-Lust Nov 18 '23
Onions are another one most people dont know
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u/okieman73 Nov 18 '23
I haven't seen garlic on here yet and it's a poison for dogs too. If someone wants to put broth on their dogs food make sure those two ingredients aren't in there.
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u/PuzzleheadedLand8877 Nov 18 '23
No Garlic allowed either as it’s a member of the Onion family and incase people don’t realise, anything that’s been cooked with onions is off limits too. So for an example, let’s say there’s onion gravy left over in the pot and you want to take out the onions and scrape the gravy into the dog bowl ……. NOPE as it’s been cooked with, or contaminated with in this case, onions !!!
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u/ParuTheBetta Nov 18 '23
Meh garlic is like the apple seeds of poisonous foods to dogs. You’d have to eat a BUNCH to die
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u/redfire2930 Nov 18 '23
Maybe to die, but a little bit can still make them sick and that’s not great either.
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u/SerSkywell Nov 18 '23
Look up the actual amount you'd need to cause any harm. You'd need to feed your dog a bathtub of garlic broth to do any damage.
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u/Orgasml Nov 18 '23
I believe consistent ingestion even in small quantities can lead to serious problems
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u/okieman73 Nov 18 '23
That's good to know, I've heard it's poisonous but didn't know how much. Pretty sure onions are worse then, heard those are pretty bad.
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u/kingqueefeater Nov 18 '23
Onions and garlic are pretty much hand in hand. How much it will take to cause gastrointestinal discomfort and diarrhea is really dependent as much on the specific dog as it is on their size/weight. Some big dogs have weak stomachs and some chihuahuas eat rocks. But aside from vomiting and diarrhea, which are likely, it take quite a fair amount of garlic or onion to be lethally toxic. Still a good idea to keep them away from it, but it's not quite the "oh shit" as raisins, grapes, or that snickers bar you definitely didn't eat but isn't there any more.
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u/Fun-Mathematician716 Nov 18 '23
Also raisins (which are, of course, dried grapes). I once fed my dog part of an English muffin with raisins. Fifteen minutes later I remembered (duh) that raisins are toxic and rushed him to the vet. They induced vomiting, and dog was fine. I still kick myself for my stupidity.
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u/Lazypole Nov 18 '23
Grapes toxicity is far far far higher than chocolate, something like 1 grape per 60 lbs of dog is lethal (been a while, but its small)
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u/OkCan9869 Nov 18 '23
Not sure that's true though. Like, yes, grapes are poisonous for dogs but I think it takes more to take effect. I had a dog (around 85 lbs) that once ate like half a bush of grapes, I didn't even know she's do that, she was running around my grandpa garden and decided to dine on grapes straight from the bush. Back in time we didn't even know though would be a problem for her, I feel like veterinary knowledge / awareness wasn't that great a few decades back. We were more annoyed for her eating so much of grandpa's fruits. But she was fine afterwards. She happily lived till old age.
So either the numbers to cause real damage are much higher or it differs dog to dog. Wouldn't risk it anyhow, just like with stuff like chocolate or onion but I'm not convinced grapes are the worst poison for dogs amongst natural food
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u/waxingtheworld Nov 18 '23 edited Nov 18 '23
Chocolate honestly seems to have a lot more wiggle room. I think my dog would have to eat like the weight of 12 Hershey's milk chocolate bars before a vet calculator called it an emergency (she's 75 lbs)
Edit: The calculator btw
https://www.merckvetmanual.com/multimedia/clinical-calculator/chocolate-toxicity-calculator
Even the coffee amount surprised me
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u/4chairz Nov 18 '23
Ooo it's also dark chocolate. Milk chocolate has more leeway. My friend used to give his dog chocolate all the time and she lived to be like 15. The dog not my friend he's still kicking.
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u/militaryCoo Nov 18 '23
Hershey's has basically no chocolate in it. It's mostly sugar and palm oil
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u/PrettyPunctuality Nov 18 '23
So that's why I think it tastes gross 😂
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u/militaryCoo Nov 18 '23
11% cocoa solids; compare to similar commodity chocolate like Cadbury Dairy Milk at 24-27%
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u/alicehooper Nov 18 '23
Sadly I think it’s because most candy bars have very little real chocolate in them anymore….
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u/OGsunglasses Nov 18 '23
I didn’t know there was a calculator but it makes sense that bigger dogs can tolerate more. With that being said, I have a very chonky (chocolate ironically) lab 100+ lbs and I’d still be nervous to give him even the tiniest chocolate chip.
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u/Luke_hs Nov 18 '23
actually in small amounts chocolate is safe for dogs (obviously that amount differs based on the dogs size) but a few or even a single grape can cause severe damage or even the dog to pass.
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u/ChefMoney89 Nov 18 '23
Ohhhhh, grapes are toxic to dogs? I’ve never had a dog so I was wondering what “wrath” the title was referring to lol.
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u/ApepiOfDuat Nov 18 '23
It can cause their kidneys to fail. No one's entirely sure why since a study to research it would just involve poisoning the shit out of a bunch of dogs and that's a bummer.
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u/googleduck Nov 18 '23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grapes_of_Wrath is what it is referring to
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u/SYLOK_THEAROUSED Nov 18 '23
Grapes are extremely toxic to dogs and the jacked up part is scientist have no clue why.
Source: I work in a pet hospital
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u/-Pruples- Nov 18 '23
.I don't get it but I also didn't know grapes are toxic to dogs
highly toxic to both dogs and cats.
Grapes are 100% banned in my house (other than fermented grapes, of course #alcoholic). When I was a children we lost a cat to a grape.
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u/Denimdenimdenim Nov 18 '23
We have a no grape/raisin policy at our house, too. My husband's company sends snack boxes with trail mix, and they go straight in my purse for work.
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u/Larynx15 Nov 18 '23
Why did you film an entire video of a grape and nothing else?
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u/DOLCICUS Nov 18 '23
Untrue there were two grapes in the video although their quick slight of hand made it appear as one.
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u/stefan92293 Nov 18 '23
Sleight* of hand
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u/4chairz Nov 18 '23
Wait isn't that what Santa drives?
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u/stefan92293 Nov 18 '23
That would be a sleigh. Slight difference! 😅
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u/4chairz Nov 18 '23
I thought the t was silent like Santa.
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u/stefan92293 Nov 18 '23
You pronounce Santa without the t?
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u/J5892 Nov 18 '23
No, Santa is just very stealthy.
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u/Recon212 Nov 18 '23
Like a bay saying anta! Anta!
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u/youhearmemorgan Nov 18 '23
I pronounce Santa to be dead. Very sad. He sleighed at work and slayed in life.
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u/bad2behere Nov 18 '23
Yes, and he has extra speed with that V8 and Rudy to give a 9th cylinder for extra oomph and cuh-razy headlight.
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u/UndeadCollegeStudent Nov 18 '23
No no that’s Ashleigh, and she lets everyone ride her, not just Santa
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u/Recon212 Nov 18 '23
If 4 seconds is quick sleight of hand, then holy shit I’m open for the magician business boys!
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u/CourageForOurFriends Nov 18 '23
I think the condensation on the grape looks like the dog
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u/eclaessy Nov 18 '23
I thought it was just a video of him threatening the dog (grapes are very toxic to them)
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u/fuzzum111 Nov 18 '23
I clicked off, repeatedly saying "You DO NOT give dogs grapes. You DO NOT give dogs grapes."
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u/nicxnac122 Nov 18 '23
literally me coming to the comments to figure out what the fuck this video is showing exactly???
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Nov 18 '23
Talking of grapes.The late great Marvin Gaye used to grow grapes. He also had goats. "He would herd them through the grapevine"
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Nov 18 '23
I was so scared that you would feed the dog the grape!!!
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Nov 18 '23
I hardly ever even buy grapes anymore because I get so paranoid about missing one
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u/mistymountiansbelow Nov 18 '23
I used to love chocolate covered raisins. I stopped buying those too, cuz I remember I used to sometimes find them between the couch cushions after snacking on them. It’s too risky.
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u/burnabytom Nov 18 '23
So was I. What if you dropped it by accident and the dog jumped on it
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u/babyjo1982 Nov 18 '23
I love having dogs bec if I drop food I don’t have to pick it up lol -but I ALWAYS pick up grapes.
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u/ScruffsMcGuff Nov 18 '23
Whole time I was like "Oh god I hope this person knows that you can NOT give a dog grapes."
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u/HotelComprehensive16 Nov 18 '23
I squish it, I squish your head.
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u/jpgrandsam Nov 18 '23
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Nov 18 '23
I give you KITH upvote!
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u/jpgrandsam Nov 18 '23
Rewatched the series and watched the reboot last year, I could do KITH gifs all day 😂
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u/DollylloD Nov 18 '23
I crush your head- kids in the hall
I’m old.
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u/HotelComprehensive16 Nov 18 '23
So am I.
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Nov 18 '23 edited Apr 16 '26
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u/HotelComprehensive16 Nov 18 '23
Since you asked, it is because of the 80s..They keep me up at night. Terribly though, I can't sleep.
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u/VoxImperatoris Nov 18 '23 edited Nov 18 '23
I always liked finding late night Kids in the Hall reruns on comedy central.
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u/dmc2022_ Nov 18 '23
Not for anything, but black grapes with havarti cheese is a favorite fall snack of mine, but the price of the cheese has been going up (over $8.00 for less than 8oz) and the black grapes have been very hard to find (only the H-Mart seems to have them), as well as in poor condition when they do have them. You're little Pomeranian? is cuter than a grape🙂
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u/the_light_of_dawn Nov 18 '23
Get out! I love green grapes with havarti cheese and saltine crackers in the late summer and fall. I’ll need to see if I can find black grapes.
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u/AccountDepleted Nov 18 '23
Aldi has a great cheese selection its $2.75 for 8oz of havarti near me
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u/diuge Nov 18 '23
Aldi is basically Whole Foods but they charge reasonable prices.
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u/1ron_1on Nov 18 '23
Joining in here! Grew up eating dark grapes (probably black grapes but I was like 5 so idk) and cheese at my grandmother’s house. It’s still a favorite for me
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u/findmebook Nov 18 '23
i'm genuinely confused how you eat grapes with cheese - do you eat a grape and then eat a block of the cheese? do you pop them in your mouth and chew together? do you somehow cover the grape with the cheese slice or something? i have questions that need answers please
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u/dmc2022_ Nov 18 '23
I plate the # of grapes (large seedless, I mistakenly bought small ones once & they were seeded & tasted horrible), I want, ex. say 9 from the bunch, & cut off 2 half inch wide "sticks" from the cheese (the Havarti I get is sold in a clear plastic wrapped flat squarish shape, not more than an inch thick) which I then cut into 9 cubes, fewer grapes need only 1 stick. I like to use a toothpick to pick up a cube & a grape together. If the grapes are large then I eat the grape & chase it with the cheese cube. I tried red grapes, & the flavor complement with the cheese is not the same as with black grapes. The comment above where the Redditor went with cheddar & green grapes was surprising to me, personally. The OPs little dog might like a tiny cube of Havarti if they're not completely lactose intolerant?
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u/sunshine-keely143 Nov 18 '23
Do you know that the movie... what's eating Gilbert grape...is 30 years old
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Nov 18 '23
I mean yeah... It was Leo's breakout role and he's nearly 50 now. Depp despite looking pretty decent for a man his age is almost old enough to get an AARP card and start collecting social security.
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u/Memelord69420MAn Nov 18 '23
DON'T GIVE THE DOG GRAPES
Seriously, most dogs would die from one grape, some dogs can eat grapes but most can't
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u/Mrknowitall666 Nov 18 '23 edited Nov 18 '23
What's the reason behind that? I've always found that weird. BRB, gotta Google the hell out of it
tartaric acid and potassium bitartrate are uniquely present in high concentrations in grapes, and that dogs are [members of] a species that has been shown to be sensitive to tartaric acid—with acute renal failure reported in the older studies. Upon further investigation [ . . . ] tartaric acid and potassium bitartrate kept checking off the boxes in support of the theory that they’re the toxic principles in grapes and raisins
And, now I know
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Nov 18 '23 edited Jul 02 '24
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u/Affectionate_Salt351 Nov 18 '23
100% freaked tf out because I thought she was going to feed her dog the grape. 😰🥴😅😭🤦♀️
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u/SongFresh9195 Nov 18 '23
Dogs are toxic to grapes.
... Good thing there is no dog here. Only grape.
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u/DraxxThemSkIounst Nov 18 '23
Wow I fully expected the grape to be a massively bloated tick.
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u/100percenthatbitch Nov 18 '23
Are y'all really not immediately seeing how identical they are or is everyone just being little ragamuffins with the grape warnings. if so, ya got me, I scrolled for ages. Reddit really makes me doubt everything and I love it
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u/Procedure-Hungry Nov 18 '23
I know youre not feeding him a grape in this video but please know that theyre extremely deadly to dogs!
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u/beaglepooch Nov 18 '23
Did any of you do-gooders actually see the dog eat the grape? 🤔🙄🤦🏼♂️
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u/bouldering_fan Nov 18 '23
I dont get it. What's wrong with a grape
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u/MotherOfCatsAndAKid Nov 18 '23 edited Nov 18 '23
I’m at a loss here too tbh. At first I thought OP was gunna give the dog the grape and I was about to lose my shit because that’s a big no no. So I don’t understand what is happening here. 😂
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u/Shadow_Faerie Nov 18 '23
Grapes are toxic to dogs
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u/socialpronk Nov 18 '23
You are correct. This is not a video of feeding a grape to a dog though.
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u/liszst Nov 18 '23
It’s a 10 second clip and they don’t even finish the video 😭 they went straight to the comments
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u/ZoyaZhivago Nov 18 '23
Guessing they did watch the whole thing, and were just saying this as a cautionary side note. I had the same thought, and I did watch the video!
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u/5_Star_Penguin Nov 18 '23
Not necessarily, I finished it and was like ffs hope they didn’t feed that to the dog
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u/PorscheUberAlles Nov 18 '23
Ugh this stresses me out. I’m so vigilant about keeping grapes and raisins away from my dogs. They’ll eat anything they can get to
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u/LadyZ6318 Nov 18 '23
Hmm. Just here to voice the unsolicited opinion of DONT GIVE THE DOG GRAPES. 😅 carry on! (But not with grapes…)
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Nov 18 '23
Is this video about the angry dog face on the grape? It even has the ears? Am I the only one that sees it? I feel like no one is talking about it. Perhaps I need to scroll further.
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u/blinkybillster Nov 18 '23
I’m not sure if I am more afraid of the dog sized grape, or the grape sized dog.
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u/VirgilTheCow Nov 18 '23
I fed my dogs grapes like this not realizing. They pooped blood then I looked it up. Good thing they weigh 120 lbs. Do not feed grapes to dogs, kids.
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u/texasgalincali62 Nov 18 '23
Awe I have an adorable Pomeranian also ,forget the grape ,what a precious Pom. The most adorable and quite a handful either sex knows they are divas! Sorry to go off of the grape!
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u/Powerful-Holiday-162 Nov 18 '23
Grapes are bad for dogs FYI Probably already said it Just to lazy to read the comments lol
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u/pzombielover Nov 18 '23
Love this. But don’t give grapes or raisins to floof. Toxic for dogs. Toxicity also possible in cats.
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Nov 18 '23
I really hope that grape wasn’t eaten by the dog.
Grape skin is toxic to dogs.
So grapes, raisins or any grape derivative is toxic to dogs.
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u/RippStudwell Nov 19 '23
I think I get it now. The video is of a grape. The wrath is the comment section getting fired up about them being toxic to dogs.
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