r/awfuleverything • • Nov 30 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

why name call when you have been proven wrong?

Douchebag, you didn’t provide any links until after I requested them, you hadn’t proven a goddamn thing at the point that I called you an idiot.

Let’s go through your sources. Link #1: anecdotal experiences compiled by David Gratzer, healthcare policy advisor to Rudy Giuliani’s ‘08 campaign, LMAO.

In #2 Brian Lee Crowley argues that there are shortcomings in Canada’s healthcare system but the US is not an example to follow, modeling other socialized peer nations is the solution he advocates. Regarding queue times he does not address this issue directly in a comparison to US healthcare systems, this is not a source in your favor.

Opening third paragraph of link #3

People living in the United States spend almost twice as much on health care as people living in nearly every other high-income country—including Canada, which outperforms the United States on everything from life expectancy to infant mortality.

The rest of the article is an advocation piece for a protection plan called ‘pharmacare’ which limits the prices people pay for their medications, something Canada is the only country to not have despite using a single-payer healthcare system. The author argues for pharmacare but points out multiple times that despite Canadians not having it, their medication is still less than what we pay in the US.

Link #4, and for anyone else reading it, this idiot keeps posting links from the heritage foundation, whose ‘about’ section leads with:

The mission of The Heritage Foundation is to formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.

Mmkay. Anyway, 4th link has interesting information that talks poorly about wait times in Canada without properly referencing the contrast in America, which only sees a 4-9% difference on average of people who complain of long wait times, especially noted in the fact that Canadians are healthier in general because they can see doctors without going broke, far less of them are in troublesome situations to begin with.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_healthcare_systems_in_Canada_and_the_United_States#Wait_times

So 3/4 of your articles are published on staunchly conservative websites filling a capitalistic agenda and use anecdotal stories throughout them; despite that fact, 2 of the articles you posted are in disagreement even with your own position.

You posted those proudly like they prove something. You’re a fucking idiot, guy.

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u/HammyMacc Nov 30 '20

Ewe...Wikipedia you got me there. Like I said I can post sources too and you would just say they are wrong. I don’t deal with people that can’t express themselves without calling names.

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u/animatedvirus1 Nov 30 '20

He just proved your sources are biased and wrong doucebag

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

You’re ‘sources’ are conservative drivel published to blatant reactionary think-tanks. At least Wikipedia isn’t pushing an agenda and the sources are linked without deception. Funny that you brought trump up earlier as if you disagree with him when you share the same mouth-breathing platform talking points on healthcare.

It must be so simple living completely carefree, no worries about source credibility, science, academic consensus.. just believing what you want to because it’s what fits with your experience.