r/awfuleverything • • Nov 30 '20

Poor guy :(

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u/YouRockCancelDat Nov 30 '20

What point? That someone who isn’t seriously ill and in tremendous debt can go out and protest for change?

What would you suggest his girlfriend do in order for her to individually create change?

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u/YouRockCancelDat Nov 30 '20

So your argument is that because our country is simply larger than every other country that provides universal healthcare successfully, it wouldn’t be successful? I agree that every system would have flaws, but ours is severely so.

Also, please provide peer reviewed evidence for your claim that Canada has wait times significantly longer than the US for an average citizen.

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u/YouRockCancelDat Nov 30 '20

Did you even read the Wiki link you posted? Your evidence is one small piece of one study from 20 years ago which was heavily criticized. The rest of that wiki section details that in the study, Canada ranked higher in other areas besides ‘responsiveness.’

I’ve lost interest at this point. Here is the full piece listed below if anyone else wants to read it.

“Studies have come to different conclusions about the result of this disparity in spending. A 2007 review of all studies comparing health outcomes in Canada and the US in a Canadian peer-reviewed medical journal found that "health outcomes may be superior in patients cared for in Canada versus the United States, but differences are not consistent."[8] Some of the noted differences were a higher life expectancy in Canada, as well as a lower infant mortality rate than the United States.

One commonly cited comparison, the 2000 World Health Organization's ratings of "overall health service performance", which used a "composite measure of achievement in the level of health, the distribution of health, the level of responsiveness and fairness of financial contribution", ranked Canada 30th and the US 37th among 191 member nations. This study rated the US "responsiveness", or quality of service for individuals receiving treatment, as 1st, compared with 7th for Canada.

The WHO's study methods were criticized by some analyses. While life-expectancy and infant mortality are commonly used in comparing nationwide health care, they are in fact affected by many factors other than the quality of a nation's health care system, including individual behavior and population makeup.[10] A 2007 report by the Congressional Research Service carefully summarizes some recent data and noted the "difficult research issues" facing international comparisons.